Carl Froch Vs Gennady Golovkin In Talks For September

[Evander]

This has been going on long enough.

Great fight if it went off ... Carl is prolly the only one to sacrifice.

[sendo]

Froch is already warming up to the idea of fighting DeGale who is a much easier opponent than Golovkin:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/fro ... opponents/?

Cobra, do a good thing for fans -- fight GGG.

Degale is hardly 'much easier', you weird little fanboy, Golovkin is a great fighter but hasn't beaten anyone close to the standard of Andre Dirrell and is giving up a lot of height, reach and natural weight.

[Aaronide_ger]

Others answered for me KBB, u are quite clueless.

@Fergus Dude all these writing u did, for what reason? You started from TBE and wrote 1000000000 lines, Please stop posting so much stuff.

[ikorolev]

Froch is already warming up to the idea of fighting DeGale who is a much easier opponent than Golovkin:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/fro ... opponents/?

Cobra, do a good thing for fans -- fight GGG.

Degale is hardly 'much easier', you weird little fanboy, Golovkin is a great fighter but hasn't beaten anyone close to the standard of Andre Dirrell and is giving up a lot of height, reach and natural weight.

DeGale didn't really beat Dirrell. It was very close and could be scored either way. Besides, Dirrell is damaged goods.

I wish DeGale fought Chudinov and not some p4ssy.

[Tanzio]

Froch is already warming up to the idea of fighting DeGale who is a much easier opponent than Golovkin:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/fro ... opponents/?

Cobra, do a good thing for fans -- fight GGG.

Degale is hardly 'much easier', you weird little fanboy, Golovkin is a great fighter but hasn't beaten anyone close to the standard of Andre Dirrell and is giving up a lot of height, reach and natural weight.

DeGale didn't really beat Dirrell. It was very close and could be scored either way. Besides, Dirrell is damaged goods.

I wish DeGale fought Chudinov and not some p4ssy.

Must be tough being you, living in that tiny little fantasy world where "DeGale didn't really beat Dirrell" and The Provoglodyte is undefeated.

[ikorolev]

Must be tough being you, living in that tiny little fantasy world where "DeGale didn't really beat Dirrell" and The Provoglodyte is undefeated.

I haven't seen more pathetic scoring than yours in yestereday's fight. Provo was clearly beaten by Matthyse and had close fights with Herrera and Bradley which could be scored either way, but he did NOT lose to Algieri.

[Tanzio]

Must be tough being you, living in that tiny little fantasy world where "DeGale didn't really beat Dirrell" and The Provoglodyte is undefeated.

I haven't seen more pathetic scoring than yours in yestereday's fight. Provo was clearly beaten by Matthyse and had close fights with Herrera and Bradley which could be scored either way, but he did NOT lose to Algieri.

Wrong. The Provoglodyte has an L on his record v Algieri; fact.

Fact #2; Bradley "did NOT" lose the first Pac fight.

You haven't seen more pathetic scoring than my 115-113 for Khan? You really need to get out of your tiny bubble more.

[jezzamundo]

now makes ZERO sense, first you keep saying that Golovkin should be fighting at light heavy based on his fight night weight, but then u agreed that kovalev should also be fighting at cruiserweight.. So Maidana should be a super middleweight,Lomachenko should be a lightweight and Naoya Inoue should be a Super Bantamweight. Dude wake up the rules of weight ins have changed and allow boxers to put on massive ammount of lb fight night. Deal with it.

I'm making the point that if a fighter is walking around at 175 then fights at 160 that he can easily move to 175 and fight there with no problems, he won't be weakened by that move and is capable as long as he has the skills to compete, be effective and win.

It's too bad that you cannot seem to understand and continually say that I'm not making any sense when you are assuming you know what I'm saying when it is apparent you don't.

GGG knows he has an advantage fighting at 160 rather than 175, can he make 175? Yes, without a doubt but why doesn't he fight there; sure it's not his "fighting weight" but it is his natural weight so he doesn't fight there because those advantages he'd have over guys at 60 he wouldn't have at 75.

I'm not sure why you do not get this.

In today's climate of day-before weigh-ins, it's pretty much standard practice for boxers to put on around 8% in weight before coming into the ring. Mayweather and Pacquiao are rare exceptions in that they could both fight at 140lb (Manny in particular) but choose to operate at welterweight because of the extra money and prestige and because they are skilled enough to do so at the highest level.

Walking around weight is pretty much irrelevant - some boxers blow up between fights while others stay in shape. If you're going to go by that, then Ricky Hatton was a natural cruiserweight.

GGG is a natural middleweight who had rehydrated to 167-173lb in fights where fight night weight have been recorded. I'd say this is probably about average for the division. This is the weight range that Canelo tends to be on fight night, which suggests that GGG might be able to make 154lb, though he is older than Canelo and not used to such a big drain, so perhaps not. GGG could certainly fight at super middleweight, but he would be small for the division, even moreso at light heavyweight.

GGG is skilful for sure, but with his aggressive, physical style, I feel he would be greatly disadvantaged by coming in against bigger, heavier men. I tend to think it's the guys with great athleticism and technical skills, particularly defensive skills, who have the most success in climbing divisions.

[ikorolev]

Wrong. The Provoglodyte has an L on his record v Algieri; fact.

... and RJJ has an L in Olympics. Too many of those L's are wrong.

[Tanzio]

Wrong. The Provoglodyte has an L on his record v Algieri; fact.

... and RJJ has an L in Olympics. Too many of those L's are wrong.

The Provoglodyte has no one to blame but himself for the Algieri loss. It was a close fight. It shouldn't have been.

My main point is that nobody else is still whining about the a very close decision going against their fighter. I agreed with Algieri getting the decision but I would have understood if it had been a draw or a very close decision in favor of The Provoglodyte.

You, otoh, lack any semblance of an objectivity gene.

While I felt Ramming Speed deserved the decision over Chaves, he has only himself to blame for leaving that fight too close. Same thing goes for Pac v Ramming Speed I. While I had Tim winning by a round, I would not have been surprised by the decision going to Pac. However, Manny has only himself to blame for taking rounds off and faing to win close rounds clearly.

I had DeGale winning the other night but he cut it way too close by taking a chunk of the fight off. If the decision in a foreign land had gone against him, DeGale would have had only himself to blame.

The Provoglodyte is a favorite of mine, btw, limited as he is.

[ikorolev]

Provo has to blame himself and his corner which didn't kick his a$$, but without those hometown judges, he would still have won.

[Tanzio]

Provo has to blame himself and his corner which didn't kick his a$$, but without those hometown judges, he would still have won.

He lost. Go see a therapist.

[ikorolev]

Provo has to blame himself and his corner which didn't kick his a$$, but without those hometown judges, he would still have won.

He lost. Go see a therapist.

... and RJJ lost in Olympics, so I don't need a therapist.

[Tanzio]

Provo has to blame himself and his corner which didn't kick his a$$, but without those hometown judges, he would still have won.

He lost. Go see a therapist.

... and RJJ lost in Olympics, so I don't need a therapist.

If you can't see the difference you need to be committed.

[ikorolev]

He lost. Go see a therapist.

... and RJJ lost in Olympics, so I don't need a therapist.

If you can't see the difference you need to be committed.

The only difference is that YOU disagree with only one of those L's, while I disagree with both. It looks like you consider yourself a shrink, so maybe you need to get committed to have that treated ?

[Tanzio]

... and RJJ lost in Olympics, so I don't need a therapist.

If you can't see the difference you need to be committed.

The only difference is that YOU disagree with only one of those L's, while I disagree with both. It looks like you consider yourself a shrink, so maybe you need to get committed to have that treated ?

You equate RJJ's loss in the Olympics to The Provoglodyte's loss to Algieri? Seriously, you are ill, not in a good way.

[ikorolev]

I don't equate them, but in both cases some of the judges knowingly delivered wrong verdicts, so there is a clear similarity.

[Cyclops]

Froch is already warming up to the idea of fighting DeGale who is a much easier opponent than Golovkin:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/fro ... opponents/?

Cobra, do a good thing for fans -- fight GGG.

Degale is hardly 'much easier', you weird little fanboy, Golovkin is a great fighter but hasn't beaten anyone close to the standard of Andre Dirrell and is giving up a lot of height, reach and natural weight.

[Tanzio]

I don't equate them, but in both cases some of the judges knowingly delivered wrong verdicts, so there is a clear similarity.

RJJ's loss in the Olympics is no more similar to The Proviglodyte's loss to Algieri than it is to every other professional and amateur boxing match in history.

You revel in your delusion.

[ikorolev]

Your level of delusion is hitting the ceiling if you think that the below guy was the winner. This is not amateur boxing when you can touch an opponent and score points. Provo's face which is usually a mess after his fights was almost clean.

[Tanzio]

Your level of delusion is hitting the ceiling if you think that the below guy was the winner. This is not amateur boxing when you can touch an opponent and score points. Provo's face which is usually a mess after his fights was almost clean.

Pssst . . . Ikorlev . . . That's not what judges score fights on.

[ikorolev]

Your level of delusion is hitting the ceiling if you think that the below guy was the winner. This is not amateur boxing when you can touch an opponent and score points. Provo's face which is usually a mess after his fights was almost clean.

Pssst . . . Ikorlev . . . That's not what judges score fights on.

Objective judges in professional boxing certainly take quality and effectiveness of punches into consideration, and fighters' faces reflect that quality and effectiveness.

[Tanzio]

Your level of delusion is hitting the ceiling if you think that the below guy was the winner. This is not amateur boxing when you can touch an opponent and score points. Provo's face which is usually a mess after his fights was almost clean.

Pssst . . . Ikorlev . . . That's not what judges score fights on.

Objective judges in professional boxing certainly take quality and effectiveness of punches into consideration, and fighters' faces reflect that quality and effectiveness.

My apologies if this seems condescending, ikorlev, but I assumed that you were aware that boxing is scored by round and the score is not altered to reflect how the fighters' faces look at the end of the bout.

[ikorolev]

My apologies if this seems condescending, ikorlev, but I assumed that you were aware that boxing is scored by round and the score is not altered to reflect how the fighters' faces look at the end of the bout.

Algieri's face was a mess after the first round and was becoming worse every round.

[Tanzio]

My apologies if this seems condescending, ikorlev, but I assumed that you were aware that boxing is scored by round and the score is not altered to reflect how the fighters' faces look at the end of the bout.

Algieri's face was a mess after the first round and was becoming worse every round.

But, the fight was not stopped and the effects of the shot that put Algieri down in the first were accounted for in the scoring in the first.