British Top 30 P4P June 2015

[Horse]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (3.) Kell Brook
3. (2.) Carl Frampton
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (6.) James DeGale
6. (14.) Jamie McDonnell
7. (5.) Tyson Fury
8. (7.) George Groves
9. (12.) Lee Selby
10. (8.) Andy Lee (Irish)

11. (9.) Martin Murray
12. (10.) Scott Quigg
13. (11.) Ola Afolabi
14. (19.) Ricky Burns
15. (13.) Tony Bellew
16. (15.) Billy Joe Saunders
17. (16.) Lee Haskins
18. (17.) Paul Smith
19. (20.) Liam Walsh
20. (21.) Dereck Chisora

21. (22.) Stuart Hall
22. (23.) Paul Butler
23. (24.) Chris Eubank Jr
24. (RE.) Kevin Mitchell
25. (18.) Frankie Gavin
26. (25.) Derry Mathews
27. (26.) Anthony Crolla
28. (NE.) Anthony Joshua
29. (27.) Ovill McKenzie
30. (28.) Josh Warrington

Out - (29.) Terry Flanagan
Out - (30.) Nathan Cleverly

[Horse]

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

[danamba7]

Glad to see Mitchell back

[Boxerbeetle]

I'd have Selby at 6, McDonnell at 8 and Groves at 9.

[Ian1973]

Pretty good Horse. I'd have Selby above Groves though.

[freddydoesdallas]

Still can't see why Groves is ahead of the likes of Lee & Selby. Top 10 for GG is very kind. A draw against Quillin in the US & Selby beating a recognised champion are surely better results than 2 ko losses to Froch! The rest of GG career is no better than either fighter.

[Horse]

Glad to see Mitchell back

[Horse]

I'd have Selby at 6, McDonnell at 8 and Groves at 9.

The ending to Selby's fight was a bit dodgy.

If he'd beaten him properly then he'd probably be higher.

[Horse]

Pretty good Horse. I'd have Selby above Groves though.

I wasn't as impressed by Selby as most people were.

I think he should rematch Gradovich and beat him properly.

[keirw]

Pretty good Horse. I'd have Selby above Groves though.

I wasn't as impressed by Selby as most people were.

I think he should rematch Gradovich and beat him properly.

He won all but one round and Gradovich was noticeably slowing down.
Its not Selby's fault the doctor stopped it.

[stevedoc]

i think i'd swap khan and degale ,khan didn't look great at the weekend

[palooka]

Eubank Jnr and Frankie Gavin too high, Derry Matthews and Flannigan too low.

[Tangerine]

its a good list.

id drop fury and groves one each and Selby up to 7th
ive also got to find a place for terry Flanagan

solid list though

[los2]

froch is a commentator......degale selby and lee all above khan....

[Happy Slapper]

Can't see how Cleverley doesn't even make the top 30, but pretty good.

[Horse]

Still can't see why Groves is ahead of the likes of Lee & Selby. Top 10 for GG is very kind. A draw against Quillin in the US & Selby beating a recognised champion are surely better results than 2 ko losses to Froch! The rest of GG career is no better than either fighter.

Lee almost lost to Horta about a year ago. Selby didn't beat Gradovich properly.

I think Groves would beat Lee and Selby in P4P fights.

[Horse]

He won all but one round and Gradovich was noticeably slowing down.
Its not Selby's fault the doctor stopped it.

It's not Froch's fault that Foster stopped the first Groves fight early, but it still didn't make it a proper win.

Gradovich deserved his chance and it isn't unrealistic that he could have turned things around.

[Horse]

i think i'd swap khan and degale ,khan didn't look great at the weekend

DeGale didn't look great in the middle rounds himself though.

Khan stays above DeGale for now because of his much deeper record.

[palooka]

He won all but one round and Gradovich was noticeably slowing down.
Its not Selby's fault the doctor stopped it.

It's not Froch's fault that Foster stopped the first Groves fight early, but it still didn't make it a proper win.

Gradovich deserved his chance and it isn't unrealistic that he could have turned things around.

If's but's and maybes - Selby won every minute of the bout until it was stopped - very different from the first Froch v Groves contest.

[freddydoesdallas]

Still can't see why Groves is ahead of the likes of Lee & Selby. Top 10 for GG is very kind. A draw against Quillin in the US & Selby beating a recognised champion are surely better results than 2 ko losses to Froch! The rest of GG career is no better than either fighter.

Lee almost lost to Horta about a year ago. Selby didn't beat Gradovich properly.

I think Groves would beat Lee and Selby in P4P fights.

Poor reasoning. Lee has gone from strength to strength and is considered one of the best at his weight. Selby was ahead on the cards and performing fantastically.

Groves is European level

[Horse]

Eubank Jnr and Frankie Gavin too high, Derry Matthews and Flannigan too low.

Maybe Eubank Jr is a bit too high, his record is pretty shallow.

I really don't think Gavin is too high.

Mathews was fortunate to get the decision against Luis in his last fight and Luis is only ranked 68th by BoxRec (accurately or not). Mathews also lost to Ormond just under 18 months ago and was getting a hiding against Coyle before a come from behind knockout just under 2 years ago.

Flanagan can re-enter if he beats Zepeda in July.

[stevedoc]

i think i'd swap khan and degale ,khan didn't look great at the weekend

DeGale didn't look great in the middle rounds himself though.

Khan stays above DeGale for now because of his much deeper record.

fair enough .....

[palooka]

Eubank Jnr and Frankie Gavin too high, Derry Matthews and Flannigan too low.

Maybe Eubank Jr is a bit too high, his record is pretty shallow.

I really don't think Gavin is too high.

Mathews was fortunate to get the decision against Luis in his last fight and Luis is only ranked 68th by BoxRec (accurately or not). Mathews also lost to Ormond just under 18 months ago and was getting a hiding against Coyle before a come from behind knockout just under 2 years ago.

Flanagan can re-enter if he beats Zepeda in July.

thanks for the explanation.

[Horse]

its a good list.

id drop fury and groves one each and Selby up to 7th
ive also got to find a place for terry Flanagan

I just wasn't as impressed with Selby as most others, but fair enough you rate him higher.

Flanagan only fell out because he's been a bit less active than most of the others at the bottom of the list. He'll probably be back in again soon.

solid list though

[Horse]

froch is a commentator......degale selby and lee all above khan....

Froch hasn't retired yet and he is still the clear No. 1.

Khan has a much better overall record than those guys. Someone like Algieri would be a good win for that lot, but Khan is (and should) be held to a higher standard.