Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings CLOSED

[cold187]

teper opponents similar to Joshua

only difference is he beat duhaupas, who beat charr who beat johnson.

hammer also beat johnson

is johnson the gatekeeper to the top 15? although he's not in top 50 boxrec

[Horse]

Are you saying Tupou when he met Scott was a journeyman and Johnson when he met Joshua was a contender? Is that what are you saying or you just trying to be a smart ass? Yes I use terms to describe things. What should I use, the attitude?

Johnson is much better than Tupou.

A contender is not always better than a journeyman.

[Lackeos]

Johnson lost 6 fights since he beat Leapai, he is not what he used to be. He is now nothing more then a journeyman.

Whether you like him or not Glaskov is 6th in this ranking and yes Wilder loss/dive was terrible but it is still one loss against the number 4 in the rankings.

Scott also beat Tupou, who was a decent contender.

Joshua has no contenders on his CV. I would say Teper, Tarver, Browne, even Fedosov could all be rated higher then him right now.

Ah, I see. Johnson is a journeyman, but Tupou is a contender. Thank you for your lack of a valid opinion.

While we're playing extremely fast and loose with terminology, Anthony Joshua is an undisputed champion, while Malik Scott is a tomato can. So that's why you gotta vote Joshua ahead of Scott, is because undisputed champion > tomato can.

Are you saying Tupou when he met Scott was a journeyman and Johnson when he met Joshua was a contender? Is that what are you saying or you just trying to be a smart ass? Yes I use terms to describe things. What should I use, the attitude?

Bowie Tupou is like a journeyman minus the experience. He's like a clubfighter who doesn't always fight at the same club. He is ranked #141 on boxrec, and would lose to most any gatekeeper. He lost to Demetrice King, who is a journeyman, and his best win is over Manuel Quesadilla, who is a journeyman. So Bowie Tupou is basically a journeyman-caliber fighter without the typical 20-20 record of a journeyman, because he's been padding his record with bums like Nick Guivas and Junior Iakopo. Tupou would probably lose if he was fighting gatekeepers like Alex Leapai and Albert Sosnowski.

Kevin Johnson, on the other hand, is a typical gatekeeper. He actually has wins over other gatekeepers, like Alex Leapai and Albert Sosnowski. But then he also has lost against Manuel Charr (a top tier gatekeeper) and he lost a 3-rounder against Tor Hamer. Most of Kevin Johnson's losses are to guys who are several levels above Bowie Tupou, such as Vitali Klitschko, Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Dereck Chisora, and Christian Hammer. These losses do not in any way demonstrate that Kevin Johnson belongs below Bowie Tupou.

A contender tends to hold a top 20ish rank, and is in contention to receive a shot at a world title. Bowie Tupou is so far away from title contention that he is currently ranked below journeymen like Billy Zumbrun, Jason Gavern, and Fabrice Aurieng on boxrec.

[jezzamundo]

Votes have been tallied, Anthony Joshua enters the rankings at #15:

Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Bryant Jennings
6. Vyacheslav Glazkov
7. Carlos Takam
8. Bermane Stiverne
9. Tony Thompson
10. Dereck Chisora
11. Artur Szpilka
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Chris Arreola
14. Ruslan Chagaev
15. Anthony Joshua