World Top 30 P4P June 2015

[Horse]

1. (1.) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. (4.) Roman Gonzalez
3. (3.) Wladimir Klitschko
4. (2.) Manny Pacquiao
5. (5.) Sergey Kovalev
6. (7.) Gennady Golovkin
7. (8.) Timothy Bradley
8. (6.) Carl Froch
9. (9.) Guillermo Rigondeaux
10. (10.) Terence Crawford

11. (13.) Saul Alvarez
12. (12.) Juan Francisco Estrada
13. (14.) Adonis Stevenson
14. (11.) Juan Manuel Marquez
15. (15.) Shinsuke Yamanaka
16. (16.) Nicholas Walters
17. (17.) Miguel Cotto
18. (18.) Naoya Inoue
19. (22.) Kell Brook
20. (21.) Carl Frampton

21. (19.) Bernard Hopkins
22. (20.) Andre Ward
23. (23.) Lucas Matthysse
24. (24.) Danny Garcia
25. (25.) Erislandy Lara
26. (26.) Mauricio Herrera
27. (27.) Keith Thurman
28. (RE.) Takashi Uchiyama
29. (29.) Donnie Nietes
30. (30.) Marco Huck

Out - (28.) Leo Santa Cruz

[ikorolev]

F4cking joke Cotto is above Ward, Lara and Thurman ???

[Horse]

No

Yes.

[Horse]

F4cking joke Cotto is above Ward, Lara and Thurman ???

Ward hasn't done anything impressive since he beat Froch 3.5 years ago. He's lucky to still be on the list.

Thurman's record has only just got to top 30 P4P quality. Lara lost to Alvarez last year and was poor against Smith in his last fight.

[ikorolev]

F4cking joke Cotto is above Ward, Lara and Thurman ???

Ward hasn't done anything impressive since he beat Froch 3.5 years ago. He's lucky to still be on the list.

Thurman's record has only just got to top 30 P4P quality. Lara lost to Alvarez last year and was poor against Smith in his last fight.

So, when it is convenient to you, you look at the record, and when it is not, you look at performance ? Lara schooled Smith with minimal effort, and looked just fine. He also arguably defeated Canelo. Anyway, Lara smashed Trout who defeated Cotto. Lara is clearly the better fighter than Cotto.

[Horse]

Stop showing off Horse, it's most unseemly for someone of your vast age.

[Boxerbeetle]

Stop showing off Horse, it's most unseemly for someone of your vast age.

[Horse]

So, when it is convenient to you, you look at the record, and when it is not, you look at performance ? Lara schooled Smith with minimal effort, and looked just fine. He also arguably defeated Canelo. Anyway, Lara smashed Trout who defeated Cotto. Lara is clearly the better fighter than Cotto.

Lara barely beat Smith. He looked terrible.

[Horse]

What's the significance of the Frog I wonder, tell us Horse, tell us?

That's Frog Wilson.

[Horse]

'She seems to be exactly the same as Horse, only pink, and with hair'

True.

[ikorolev]

So, when it is convenient to you, you look at the record, and when it is not, you look at performance ? Lara schooled Smith with minimal effort, and looked just fine. He also arguably defeated Canelo. Anyway, Lara smashed Trout who defeated Cotto. Lara is clearly the better fighter than Cotto.

Lara barely beat Smith. He looked terrible.

119-109 is barely for you ? Maybe you shouldn't bother discussing boxing.

[Horse]

119-109 is barely for you ? Maybe you shouldn't bother discussing boxing.

That's not how I saw it.

Lara has a ridiculously negative style even when he's fighting opponents like Smith.

[ikorolev]

119-109 is barely for you ? Maybe you shouldn't bother discussing boxing.

That's not how I saw it.

Lara has a ridiculously negative style even when he's fighting opponents like Smith.

That's the problem. You don't see things like others.

Also, the fighter you gave position #1 also has a negative style, but it didn't prevent you from giving him the first spot.

[Bobbyptsd]

I love Horse's PFP lists! I like to play along at home. I write down the name of top fighters, put them in a hat,put the hat in the dryer, dose acid, forget what I was doing, then write names down as they come to me.

Voila!

[KBB]

1. (1.) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. (4.) Roman Gonzalez
3. (3.) Wladimir Klitschko
4. (2.) Manny Pacquiao
5. (5.) Sergey Kovalev
6. (7.) Gennady Golovkin
7. (8.) Timothy Bradley
8. (6.) Carl Froch
9. (9.) Guillermo Rigondeaux
10. (10.) Terence Crawford

11. (13.) Saul Alvarez
12. (12.) Juan Francisco Estrada
13. (14.) Adonis Stevenson
14. (11.) Juan Manuel Marquez
15. (15.) Shinsuke Yamanaka
16. (16.) Nicholas Walters
17. (17.) Miguel Cotto
18. (18.) Naoya Inoue
19. (22.) Kell Brook
20. (21.) Carl Frampton

21. (19.) Bernard Hopkins
22. (20.) Andre Ward
23. (23.) Lucas Matthysse
24. (24.) Danny Garcia
25. (25.) Erislandy Lara
26. (26.) Mauricio Herrera
27. (27.) Keith Thurman
28. (RE.) Takashi Uchiyama
29. (29.) Donnie Nietes
30. (30.) Marco Huck

Out - (28.) Leo Santa Cruz

As soon as I read Canelo was #11 I laughed, dude has beaten far better comp than everyone else on the list barring Floyd. I really hate P4P lists because they are highly subjective. No way does GGG go ahead of Canelo, Bradley who has lost twice to Manny ahead of Canelo, Adonis Stevenson behind Carl Froch, lol this list is a pure joke. Lara not higher on the list than Froch or GGG and he's beaten far better comp.

Please destroy this list and thread Moderators. This is a bad joke.

[Bobbyptsd]

Please destroy this list and thread Moderators. This is a bad joke.

What the actual fvck are you on about? I don't agree with Horse on many points obviously, but at least he's talking about boxing. You are on the 146th page of "Let's call each other names over Flanny Mayquiao" and you think THIS should be deleted?

You have some goddamn nerve, I'll give you that.

[KBB]

What the actual fvck are you on about? I don't agree with Horse on many points obviously, but at least he's talking about boxing. You are on the 146th page of "Let's call each other names over Flanny Mayquiao" and you think THIS should be deleted?

You have some goddamn nerve, I'll give you that.

I see my favorite retarded Troll is back to following me around and ignoring everything I stated about boxing in my reply to this thread.

I already made my comments about this thread in regards to boxing but somehow you just want to continue following me around and analyzing whatever I say while focusing on the criticism instead of reading what I said:

This is what I stated about boxing/the P4P list, I'll point it out for you to make it easier for you to understand since I know that you are too dumb to comprehend:

I read Canelo was #11 I laughed, dude has beaten far better comp than everyone else on the list barring Floyd. No way does GGG go ahead of Canelo, Bradley who has lost twice to Manny ahead of Canelo, Adonis Stevenson behind Carl Froch

But all you saw in your mental retardation is: this thread is a joke, Moderators should destroy it, bad joke.

Stop Trolling dud.

[ikorolev]

I love Horse's PFP lists! I like to play along at home. I write down the name of top fighters, put them in a hat,put the hat in the dryer, dose acid, forget what I was doing, then write names down as they come to me.

Voila!

I am wondering how much time Horse spent on deciding that one of sitting on positions 6 and 7 Froch and Bradley should move up, and the other one should move down when both haven't fought for a while

[Horse]

That's the problem. You don't see things like others.

Also, the fighter you gave position #1 also has a negative style, but it didn't prevent you from giving him the first spot.

Mayweather is far less negative and far more talented than Lara.

[Horse]

I love Horse's PFP lists! I like to play along at home. I write down the name of top fighters, put them in a hat,put the hat in the dryer, dose acid, forget what I was doing, then write names down as they come to me.

Voila!

The list is not going to be too far from the consensus, so to suggest it is chaotic and all over the place seems highly inaccurate.

[Bobbyptsd]

I love Horse's PFP lists! I like to play along at home. I write down the name of top fighters, put them in a hat,put the hat in the dryer, dose acid, forget what I was doing, then write names down as they come to me.

Voila!

The list is not going to be too far from the consensus, so to suggest it is chaotic and all over the place seems highly inaccurate.

I was being a bit facetious good Sir. A few of your placements are loopy from where I sit, but I suppose I'd agree with 3/4 or so of it.

[Horse]

As soon as I read Canelo was #11 I laughed, dude has beaten far better comp than everyone else on the list barring Floyd.

He had a very close fight with Lara which a lot of people thought he lost, he almost got whitewashed by Mayweather and a lot of people thought he lost to Lara (not me). He's too high if anything.

I really hate P4P lists because they are highly subjective. No way does GGG go ahead of Canelo, Bradley who has lost twice to Manny ahead of Canelo, Adonis Stevenson behind Carl Froch, lol this list is a pure joke. Lara not higher on the list than Froch or GGG and he's beaten far better comp.

And a lot of people would say the opposite and laugh at you.

Please destroy this list and thread Moderators. This is a bad joke.

[Horse]

I am wondering how much time Horse spent on deciding that one of sitting on positions 6 and 7 Froch and Bradley should move up, and the other one should move down when both haven't fought for a while

Froch has been inactive for over a year, so I moved him down.

Bradley been inactive less than 6 months and has a fight this month.

[KBB]

As soon as I read Canelo was #11 I laughed, dude has beaten far better comp than everyone else on the list barring Floyd.

He had a very close fight with Lara which a lot of people thought he lost, he almost got whitewashed by Mayweather and a lot of people thought he lost to Lara (not me). He's too high if anything.

I really hate P4P lists because they are highly subjective. No way does GGG go ahead of Canelo, Bradley who has lost twice to Manny ahead of Canelo, Adonis Stevenson behind Carl Froch, lol this list is a pure joke. Lara not higher on the list than Froch or GGG and he's beaten far better comp.

And a lot of people would say the opposite and laugh at you.

Please destroy this list and thread Moderators. This is a bad joke.

So what he had a close fight with Lara, Erislandy has beaten a list of A level fighters but he did not clearly distance himself in that fight with Canelo. Do you want to be critical of the others you have ahead of them and the competition that they have faced, beaten or lost to?

We can go there and I will make this list look as foolish as it really does, as far as Mayweather, everyone loses to him so there's no shame in a young Canelo losing to him but he hasn't lost to anyone else; a clear fact that you avoided in this list and your criticism of him.

Do I care what people say here about me? Obviously no, I still continue to post and you guys like (Bobbyptsd and a few others) still follow me around Trolling and being angry because I do not agree with you.

Do you want to do a comparison of the fights/fighters against those you have ahead of Canelo and see how the competition stacks up??

[Horse]

So what he had a close fight with Lara, Erislandy has beaten a list of A level fighters but he did not clearly distance himself in that fight with Canelo. Do you want to be critical of the others you have ahead of them and the competition that they have faced, beaten or lost to?

We can go there and I will make this list look as foolish as it really does, as far as Mayweather, everyone loses to him so there's no shame in a young Canelo losing to him but he hasn't lost to anyone else; a clear fact that you avoided in this list and your criticism of him.

Maidana and Cotto were much more competitive with Mayweather than Alvarez was. Alvarez has also lost to Trout (I meant to mention him in my original response to you, but I mentioned Lara twice by accident) and Lara according to a lot of people, so his record really isn't as strong as you're making out.

It's not just what the record books say, it is about the fighter's performance in the fights and Alvarez was not convincing when getting his two best wins.

Do I care what people say here about me? Obviously no, I still continue to post and you guys like (Bobbyptsd and a few others) still follow me around Trolling and being angry because I do not agree with you.

Maybe if you were less abusive then you would get less abuse back.

Do you want to do a comparison of the fights/fighters against those you have ahead of Canelo and see how the competition stacks up??

Yes.