Please Explain Your Scoring

[amwsnw]

The fight was one sided. Even if you want to count your punch stats and come up with a tally to favour Manny, it was still a landlside victory to Floyd. Time to move on people. the "effective" aggressiveness was by Floyd. he was just more effective....and no, this doesnt mean I agree with anything that suggests Manny outlanded Floyd.
Time to find the next superstar.........

[Pureist]

I don't think he knows what he's saying, if he doesn't question the video, then that must mean he doesn't think the fight was a wide margin which in turn means he's been lieing, if he does think it's a wide margin then that means he was lieing in his last post, either way he's not being truthful, he's biased

Says the person who will see whatever he wants to see when he watches the video because it favors your boytoy. The problem isn't the video, the problem is that you will see and count whatever you want to favor Manny, I'm not sure why you do not understand this.

Not that any of your senseless counting means anything, anything at all because it don't, it means nothing.....absolutely zero.

Show me then where I am wrong with the count then, if it is they way I am conducting it, show me where I've added punches or missed punches, quite easy even for a simpleton like yourself, all you do is nag about bias, blah, blah, blah, get off your fat lazy arse and prove your point, if you can't then obviously I'm right, the onus is now on you dipshit

[jezzamundo]

This thread is for those of you who scored the fight closer than 116-112.

Specifically, those of you had it 7-5 Floyd, a draw, or Manny winning.

Please explain which rounds you gave to Manny.

And for each round you thought he won, please explain exactly why.

Please be as detailed as you can.

I am starting this because I am perplexed as to how anyone can see more than 4 rounds for Pac.

And even that is a gift, as 117-111 seems the most proper score, with 118-110 perfectly understandable.

The above is the original post, which I think is a good one. I'm not interested in watching the fight in slow motion, but as soon I saw the official compubox stats, I thought they looked fishy, particularly for the 3rd round. I've seen it twice and while it wasn't a great fight, I don't think it's nearly as bad as some are making it out to be. What I find hard to understand, is how people don't to see that there is a fairly wide range of acceptable scores in this fight because there were several swing rounds that could be acceptably scored either way. Floyd won the fight, no question. To say that you had him winning by a wide margin is fair enough, but some here need to accept that there are those without (much) bias who had the fight close.

Here's how I see it:

Very Clear Floyd rounds - 1, 5 and 11.
Very Clear Manny rounds - 4 and 6.
Close rounds I think Floyd edged - 8, 9 and 12.
Close rounds I think Manny edged - 3 and 10.
Razor close rounds acceptable either way - 2 and 7.

I scored the 2nd to Manny and the 7th even , for a 115-114 Floyd scorecard.

[Pureist]

all punches no scored on punchcount-------- round 11---- 2.55 f lands jab, 2.53 f lands jab, 2.36 p lands left bodyshot, 2.32 f lansd left hook, 2.13 f lands right, 2.06 f lands hook, 2.01 p lands jab, 2.01 f lands right, 1.48 p lands right bodyshot, 1.48 f lands left hook, 1.48 p lands left hook, 1.31 f lands jab,1.30 f lands jab, 1.26 f lands right, 1.25 p lands left bodyshot, 1.21 f lands jab, .48 p scored punch didnt land, .46 f lands right, .39 f lands right bodyshot, .29 p lands left, .11 f lands left bodyshot, .01 f lands jab ------ f=26, p=13, floyds most attacking round, all quality with floyd, floyds round

[handsofstone]

Day 3657 and the needless debates are rolling on

Mayweather dominated Pacquiao ,it wasn't close,I love watching Floyd,he's a genius but him and Manny should have fought years ago, they didn't yet they lined their pockets

Both guys have had enough exposure, they didn't leave it all in the ring so fvck em,I'd rather watch Foreman-Lyle 10 times in a row,life goes on ,even the fighters don't care as much as you fellows

[Ricky_]

Day 3657 ...

Mayweather dominated Pacquiao

Maybe you think Mayweather dominated Pacquiao ( ) because you're no good with numbers? #BinCompuBox

[KBB]

Day 3657 and the needless debates are rolling on

Mayweather dominated Pacquiao ,it wasn't close,I love watching Floyd,he's a genius but him and Manny should have fought years ago, they didn't yet they lined their pockets

Both guys have had enough exposure, they didn't leave it all in the ring so fvck em,I'd rather watch Foreman-Lyle 10 times in a row,life goes on ,even the fighters don't care as much as you fellows

Good call but if you notice, it's like you cannot agree with the 99.9% who say the same thing you are stating on this forum and say Floyd dominated because you have his two Super Nuthugging Fans here who will refer to the bogus and biased punch count they are doing just to try and discredit Mayweather in any form or fashion.

Ask them this, are either of them Floyd Mayweather fans or do they just do not like him or do they hate or loathe him? Neither of them are honest because they know it'll expose their bias.

Go and read all the way back and you'll see the same two arguing with anyone who disagrees with them as though they are going to change your mind or the decision that has already been made. They cannot get it in their thick heads that Manny LOST and LOST easily as he was totally shutdown other than the 4th and 6th round and that is the past.

Time to move on, Moderators please do your job and lock this thread; no sense in carrying on with the same arguments over and over from two obviously sick and obsessed individuals.

[Ricky_]

Moderators please do your job and lock this thread

terrified little man, if you dispute the punch numbers, put up or shutup, don't go crying to mods to lock the thread, pathetic little man.

[KBB]

Moderators please do your job and lock this thread

terrified little man, if you dispute the punch numbers, put up or shutup, don't go crying to mods to lock the thread, pathetic little man.

Sick and obsessed little girl, stop posting the same crap over and over Caitlyn Jenner and I won't.

[Pureist]

all punches not scored on punchcount---- round 12----- 2.54 f lands jab, 2.47 f lands jab, 2.46 f lands jab, 2.38 p lands jab, 2.35 f lands jab, 2.14 f lands left hook back of head NC, 2.08 f lands jab, 2.00 f lands jab, 1.50 p lands jab, 1.44 f lands left hook, 1.36 p lands jab, 1.35 f lands right, 1.13 f lands jab, .49 f lands left hook back of head NC, .45 f lands left hook, .42 p lands jab, .38 p lands left bodyshot, .38 f lands right hook back of head NC, .25 p lands jab, .24 p lands left bodyshot, .23 p lands left uppercut, .16 p lands jab ---- f=17, p=12, floyds round, landed the best shots, summary------- floyd wins rounds--- 1, 2, 5, 7, 11 and 12--- pacquaio wins rounds--- 3, 4, 6, 8 and 10, round nine was exceptionly close, floyd scored 12 shots and pacquaio scored 13 shots, both landed good blows and this was the only round that there wasnt a clear winner of the round, if scored to floyd he wins 115-113, if scored to pacquaio its a draw 114-114, if scored even the scores would be 115-114 to floyd, all in all a close fight, judges and compubox very much off the mark

[KBB]

all punches not scored on punchcount---- round 12----- 2.54 f lands jab, 2.47 f lands jab, 2.46 f lands jab, 2.38 p lands jab, 2.35 f lands jab, 2.14 f lands left hook back of head NC, 2.08 f lands jab, 2.00 f lands jab, 1.50 p lands jab, 1.44 f lands left hook, 1.36 p lands jab, 1.35 f lands right, 1.13 f lands jab, .49 f lands left hook back of head NC, .45 f lands left hook, .42 p lands jab, .38 p lands left bodyshot, .38 f lands right hook back of head NC, .25 p lands jab, .24 p lands left bodyshot, .23 p lands left uppercut, .16 p lands jab ---- f=17, p=12, floyds round, landed the best shots, summary------- floyd wins rounds--- 1, 2, 5, 7, 11 and 12--- pacquaio wins rounds--- 3, 4, 6, 8 and 10, round nine was exceptionly close, floyd scored 12 shots and pacquaio scored 13 shots, both landed good blows and this was the only round that there wasnt a clear winner of the round, if scored to floyd he wins 115-113, if scored to pacquaio its a draw 114-114, if scored even the scores would be 115-114 to floyd, all in all a close fight, judges and compubox very much off the mark

We don't care, the fight is over....good for you that you did a punch count. Now, can we please, pretty please close this thread Moderators??

[Pureist]

still havent shown a flaw in it yet kbb, you really are a weak individual

[KBB]

still havent shown a flaw in it yet kbb, you really are a weak individual

I wish you could find out exactly how weak I am in person, I'd love to show you. Go to Hell, you and this garbage punch count.

[Ricky_]

all punches not scored on punchcount---- round 12----- 2.54 f lands jab, 2.47 f lands jab, 2.46 f lands jab, 2.38 p lands jab, 2.35 f lands jab, 2.14 f lands left hook back of head NC, 2.08 f lands jab, 2.00 f lands jab, 1.50 p lands jab, 1.44 f lands left hook, 1.36 p lands jab, 1.35 f lands right, 1.13 f lands jab, .49 f lands left hook back of head NC, .45 f lands left hook, .42 p lands jab, .38 p lands left bodyshot, .38 f lands right hook back of head NC, .25 p lands jab, .24 p lands left bodyshot, .23 p lands left uppercut, .16 p lands jab ---- f=17, p=12, floyds round, landed the best shots, summary------- floyd wins rounds--- 1, 2, 5, 7, 11 and 12--- pacquaio wins rounds--- 3, 4, 6, 8 and 10, round nine was exceptionly close, floyd scored 12 shots and pacquaio scored 13 shots, both landed good blows and this was the only round that there wasnt a clear winner of the round, if scored to floyd he wins 115-113, if scored to pacquaio its a draw 114-114, if scored even the scores would be 115-114 to floyd, all in all a close fight, judges and compubox very much off the mark

do you have your final numbers there, totals for the whole fight?

[Pureist]

still havent shown a flaw in it yet kbb, you really are a weak individual

I wish you could find out exactly how weak I am in person, I'd love to show you. Go to Hell, you and this garbage punch count.

Stop sooking like a little girl kbb,all you had to do was show I was wrong and you didn't, seeing you didn't, that only strengthens my arguement that I wasn't biased and the majority of the boxing world still thinks the world is flat, this is called evidence, it shows whether the judges were accurate or not, this time they're not

[KBB]

all punches not scored on punchcount---- round 12----- 2.54 f lands jab, 2.47 f lands jab, 2.46 f lands jab, 2.38 p lands jab, 2.35 f lands jab, 2.14 f lands left hook back of head NC, 2.08 f lands jab, 2.00 f lands jab, 1.50 p lands jab, 1.44 f lands left hook, 1.36 p lands jab, 1.35 f lands right, 1.13 f lands jab, .49 f lands left hook back of head NC, .45 f lands left hook, .42 p lands jab, .38 p lands left bodyshot, .38 f lands right hook back of head NC, .25 p lands jab, .24 p lands left bodyshot, .23 p lands left uppercut, .16 p lands jab ---- f=17, p=12, floyds round, landed the best shots, summary------- floyd wins rounds--- 1, 2, 5, 7, 11 and 12--- pacquaio wins rounds--- 3, 4, 6, 8 and 10, round nine was exceptionly close, floyd scored 12 shots and pacquaio scored 13 shots, both landed good blows and this was the only round that there wasnt a clear winner of the round, if scored to floyd he wins 115-113, if scored to pacquaio its a draw 114-114, if scored even the scores would be 115-114 to floyd, all in all a close fight, judges and compubox very much off the mark

You haven't detailed punch thrown & landed totals, round-by-round, for jabs and power shots.

I think you need to spend a few more hours on this and then perform a statistical analysis between your stats and CompuBox in order to determine mean, median, averages and population standard deviation of both sets of numbers.

You should also draw similar comparisons between your scores and the official scorecards.

Why on Earth would he do that? He doesn't like Mayweather and he already knows that Floyd won.

[Bobbyptsd]

Maybe this thread could be jettisoned, or locked or something. I can't imagine anything new or interesting coming out of the fourteenth fecking page of two or occasionally three guys insulting each other over an underwhelming fight that happened over a month ago and has literally been analysed from every angle in slow motion at this point.

[KBB]

Maybe this thread could be jettisoned, or locked or something. I can't imagine anything new or interesting coming out of the fourteenth fecking page of two or occasionally three guys insulting each other over an underwhelming fight that happened over a month ago and has literally been analysed from every angle in slow motion at this point.

I already asked for it to be locked, it took you 14 pages to open your big mouth. You should do what you do best, go back to Trolling behind me in every thread.

[Pureist]

Come on children, play nice

[Bobbyptsd]

Come on children, play nice

I came in and made one post. You've been arguing with him for what feels like years now over punch stats in slow motion with the tv facing each possible way. You may want to keep things in perspective, all things considered.

[Tomasino]

To call bobby a troll is daft but coming from KBB it's fornicating hilarious


I only looked at this piece of shit thread because Bobby was last post.

[Pureist]

And not one tool proved me wrong, you popped in and out at different stages to have a look, if you didn't like it after the first look or were not intrigued why did you look again, people like yourself astound me, whinge all the time but still can't stay away, I've got things in perspective, I wanted to accurately see how far off the judges and compubox were and by 2000+ views I think so did some others

[KBB]

To call bobby a troll is daft but coming from KBB it's effing hilarious


I only looked at this piece of poo thread because Bobby was last post.

You're a Troll too, all I have to do is go back and post all the crap both you, him and a few others here following me around from thread to thread just to attack me or hurl insults=that equals trolling.

Notice you have nothing to say about 14 pages of stupidity by Pureist and Ricky but you specifically single me out for asking this dumb thread be closed, you are the true definition of a Troll.

To Pureist, no one has to prove you wrong, the fight is over, Manny LOST and LOST by a Wide decision regardless of what you stupid little punch count results show.

You wasted your time as far as I'm concerned. Moderators please LOCK/CLOSE and delete this worthless thread.

[Tomasino]

To call bobby a troll is daft but coming from KBB it's effing hilarious


I only looked at this piece of poo thread because Bobby was last post.

You're a Troll too, all I have to do is go back and post all the crap both you, him and all the other intelligent posters here following me around from thread to thread just to laugh at me or hurl facts =that equals trolling.

Notice you have nothing to say about 14 pages of stupidity by Pureist and Ricky but you specifically single me out for asking this dumb thread be closed, you are the true definition of a Troll.

To Pureist, no one has to prove you wrong, the fight is over, Manny LOST and LOST by a Wide decision regardless of what you stupid little punch count results show.

You wasted your time as far as I'm concerned. Moderators please LOCK/CLOSE and delete this worthless account of mine .

It's a good post now

[jezzamundo]

Without the insult hurling, this would actually have been a decent thread. The OP asked those who had the fight close to explain themselves which I and others have done. Part of that explanation has to be a reference to the compubox numbers, which by many accounts, were inaccurate for this fight, crediting Floyd with many more punches than he actually landed, particularly in the 3rd round.

Floyd won, the 116-112 scorecards were reasonable, having it closer is also acceptable, the 118-110 scorecard is only possible if you give Floyd every single one of the competitive rounds, which I think takes a degree of bias, similar to the bias it would require to score the fight as a narrow win to Manny.