Please Explain Your Scoring

[Bobbyptsd]

To call bobby a troll is daft but coming from KBB it's effing hilarious


I only looked at this piece of poo thread because Bobby was last post.

He seems to think "troll" and "guy I don't like because he sometimes disagrees with me" are synonymous.

[Pureist]

And there is where the problem lies ferg, your perception, your biased perception, hometown decisions happen all the time in boxing and this decision was very wide of the mark, this is one of many reasons MMA is getting a strangle hold on fans, if you have a sport that patrons are betting on the judges should be reasonably accurate, just as that video punch count wasn't accurate, neither was compubox or the judges, you can lie to yourself all you want but the proof is in the pudding, you haven't proved me wrong so can't argue with the stats presented which puts the result as a draw or 1-2 rounds to floyd depending on round 9 outcome

[Pureist]

Prove the numbers wrong then

[Pureist]

All the info you need is there, totals per round, who landed the quality, educated men don't make excuses like yourself, they look for the best was to determine an accurate evaluation, nothing anywhere near what you have done, you have relied on information that is in real time and that is how boxing is judged, but the only way to see if the judges are accurate is to slow things down and evaluate, by your own admission by your lack of action even an uneducated man like yourself knows I'm right

[tiny_acres]

All the info you need is there, totals per round, who landed the quality, educated men don't make excuses like yourself, they look for the best was to determine an accurate evaluation, nothing anywhere near what you have done, you have relied on information that is in real time and that is how boxing is judged, but the only way to see if the judges are accurate is to slow things down and evaluate, by your own admission by your lack of action even an uneducated man like yourself knows I'm right

Your stats are worthless if they aren’t presented in a clear manner that caters for a straightforward and direct comparison to the figures quoted by CompuBox.

Therefore, I believe you’re being dishonest about your claims regarding the CompuBox stats, because your data isn’t presented in a like-for-like manner, due to your lazy refusal to aggregate the punch totals.

In order for you to have formulated your theory and justified it using the stats that you gathered, you would have had to aggregate your punch totals and compared them against those quoted by CompuBox… and the fact that you haven’t done this and cannot provide the collective totals that you should have calculated, means that you’re actually making an assumption based on nothing but pure guesswork!

Holy Cow!!!!
I can not believe that either of you will ever drop this subject.
Neither one of you will admit defeat and this will be going on until the next decade at the rate
you guys are going.

[Pureist]

Evaluation stands alone oh uneducated one

[Ricky_]

Pureist can you post your final numbers for the fight as a whole?

[Counter-puncher]

All the info you need is there, totals per round, who landed the quality, educated men don't make excuses like yourself, they look for the best was to determine an accurate evaluation, nothing anywhere near what you have done, you have relied on information that is in real time and that is how boxing is judged, but the only way to see if the judges are accurate is to slow things down and evaluate, by your own admission by your lack of action even an uneducated man like yourself knows I'm right

Your stats are worthless if they aren’t presented in a clear manner that caters for a straightforward and direct comparison to the figures quoted by CompuBox.

Therefore, I believe you’re being dishonest about your claims regarding the CompuBox stats, because your data isn’t presented in a like-for-like manner, due to your lazy refusal to aggregate the punch totals.

In order for you to have formulated your theory and justified it using the stats that you gathered, you would have had to aggregate your punch totals and compared them against those quoted by CompuBox… and the fact that you haven’t done this and cannot provide the collective totals that you should have calculated, means that you’re actually making an assumption based on nothing but pure guesswork!

Holy Cow!!!!
I can not believe that either of you will ever drop this subject.
Neither one of you will admit defeat and this will be going on until the next decade at the rate
you guys are going.

its like watching two blind retards trying to beat each other to death with comedy hammers made from bendy rubber

[Bobbyptsd]

Bendy hammers made of punch stats.

[tiny_acres]

All the info you need is there, totals per round, who landed the quality, educated men don't make excuses like yourself, they look for the best was to determine an accurate evaluation, nothing anywhere near what you have done, you have relied on information that is in real time and that is how boxing is judged, but the only way to see if the judges are accurate is to slow things down and evaluate, by your own admission by your lack of action even an uneducated man like yourself knows I'm right
Your stats are worthless if they aren’t presented in a clear manner that caters for a straightforward and direct comparison to the figures quoted by CompuBox.

Therefore, I believe you’re being dishonest about your claims regarding the CompuBox stats, because your data isn’t presented in a like-for-like manner, due to your lazy refusal to aggregate the punch totals.

In order for you to have formulated your theory and justified it using the stats that you gathered, you would have had to aggregate your punch totals and compared them against those quoted by CompuBox… and the fact that you haven’t done this and cannot provide the collective totals that you should have calculated, means that you’re actually making an assumption based on nothing but pure guesswork!

Holy Cow!!!!
I can not believe that either of you will ever drop this subject.
Neither one of you will admit defeat and this will be going on until the next decade at the rate
you guys are going.

its like watching two blind retards trying to beat each other to death with comedy hammers made from bendy rubber

Man did you nail that one.

[Pureist]

How hard is it to add up, Floyd landed 171 and pacquaio landed 126, broken into rounds, r1 f=10, p=0 R2 f=8 p= 10. R3 f=8 p=9. R4 f=11 p=21. R5 f=18 p=6. R6 f=16 p=16 R7 f=17 p=10. R8 f=17 p=13. R9 f=12 p=13. R10 f=11 p=13. R11 f=26 p=13. R12 f=17 p= 12, gee that was hard

[tiny_acres]

How hard is it to add up, Floyd landed 171 and pacquaio landed 126, broken into rounds, r1 f=10, p=0 R2 f=8 p= 10. R3 f=8 p=9. R4 f=11 p=21. R5 f=18 p=6. R6 f=16 p=16 R7 f=17 p=10. R8 f=17 p=13. R9 f=12 p=13. R10 f=11 p=13. R11 f=26 p=13. R12 f=17 p= 12, gee that was hard

Compubox has the numbers as 148-81
so you found 23 more punches for Floyd
And 45 more for Pacquaio
Ok that ends this thread then.

[Bobbyptsd]

How hard is it to add up, Floyd landed 171 and pacquaio landed 126, broken into rounds, r1 f=10, p=0 R2 f=8 p= 10. R3 f=8 p=9. R4 f=11 p=21. R5 f=18 p=6. R6 f=16 p=16 R7 f=17 p=10. R8 f=17 p=13. R9 f=12 p=13. R10 f=11 p=13. R11 f=26 p=13. R12 f=17 p= 12, gee that was hard

Compubox has the numbers as 148-81
so you found 23 more punches for Floyd
And 45 more for Pacquaio
Ok that ends this thread then.

HA!

If it's over before page 25, I'll eat this keyboard.

[tiny_acres]

How hard is it to add up, Floyd landed 171 and pacquaio landed 126, broken into rounds, r1 f=10, p=0 R2 f=8 p= 10. R3 f=8 p=9. R4 f=11 p=21. R5 f=18 p=6. R6 f=16 p=16 R7 f=17 p=10. R8 f=17 p=13. R9 f=12 p=13. R10 f=11 p=13. R11 f=26 p=13. R12 f=17 p= 12, gee that was hard

Compubox has the numbers as 148-81
so you found 23 more punches for Floyd
And 45 more for Pacquaio
Ok that ends this thread then.

HA!

If it's over before page 25, I'll eat this keyboard.

Yeah I tend to agree with you.I was just hoping for the best.

[Counter-puncher]

How hard is it to add up, Floyd landed 171 and pacquaio landed 126, broken into rounds, r1 f=10, p=0 R2 f=8 p= 10. R3 f=8 p=9. R4 f=11 p=21. R5 f=18 p=6. R6 f=16 p=16 R7 f=17 p=10. R8 f=17 p=13. R9 f=12 p=13. R10 f=11 p=13. R11 f=26 p=13. R12 f=17 p= 12, gee that was hard

Compubox has the numbers as 148-81
so you found 23 more punches for Floyd
And 45 more for Pacquaio
Ok that ends this thread then.

Hahaha excellent I tip my hat, sir.

[tiny_acres]

How hard is it to add up, Floyd landed 171 and pacquaio landed 126, broken into rounds, r1 f=10, p=0 R2 f=8 p= 10. R3 f=8 p=9. R4 f=11 p=21. R5 f=18 p=6. R6 f=16 p=16 R7 f=17 p=10. R8 f=17 p=13. R9 f=12 p=13. R10 f=11 p=13. R11 f=26 p=13. R12 f=17 p= 12, gee that was hard

The stats aren't broken down into jabs or straights (like CompuBox does). The info. you supplied isn't useful without this detail.

have you not had enough of this crap????

[Bobbyptsd]

Also, I need to know which side each punch came from.

I'm also looking at starting up a new thing. I'm going to call it "footstats". I'd like to track all the steps each boxer takes so we can discuss that and how it fits into every fight.

If we don't track all the punches and steps a boxer takes, how will we know who won?

I mean, what are we going to do? Watch the fights in real time, scoring round by round, like a judge does?

Well I'm sorry, but that's just crazy.

[tiny_acres]

Also, I need to know which side each punch came from.

I'm also looking at starting up a new thing. I'm going to call it "footstats". I'd like to track all the steps each boxer takes so we can discuss that and how it fits into every fight.

If we don't track all the punches and steps a boxer takes, how will we know who won?

I mean, what are we going to do? Watch the fights in real time, scoring round by round, like a judge does?

Well I'm sorry, but that's just crazy.

Man I need a drink after reading this topic.

[Bobbyptsd]

Also, I need to know which side each punch came from.

I'm also looking at starting up a new thing. I'm going to call it "footstats". I'd like to track all the steps each boxer takes so we can discuss that and how it fits into every fight.

If we don't track all the punches and steps a boxer takes, how will we know who won?

I mean, what are we going to do? Watch the fights in real time, scoring round by round, like a judge does?

Well I'm sorry, but that's just crazy.

Man I need a drink after reading this topic.

I think we actually had a similar exchange about ten or twelve pages, or a month ago

[Pureist]

Hey , I'm happy, KBB and ferg haven't managed to show any proof I'm wrong, any proof I'm biased and in fact I think ferg has spent more time going through the dictionary looking up words to try and make himself look more intelligent than he obviously is, at the end of the day ferg, you have argued yourself to a resounding loss

[tiny_acres]

in fact I think ferg has spent more time going through the dictionary looking up words to try and make himself look more intelligent than he obviously is,

I will give credit where credit is due.
This is your best line you have used in this entire topic.

[Pureist]

He must fantasise about that movie dead poets society

[Counter-puncher]

Also, I need to know which side each punch came from.

I'm also looking at starting up a new thing. I'm going to call it "footstats". I'd like to track all the steps each boxer takes so we can discuss that and how it fits into every fight.

If we don't track all the punches and steps a boxer takes, how will we know who won?

I mean, what are we going to do? Watch the fights in real time, scoring round by round, like a judge does?

Well I'm sorry, but that's just crazy.

[Ricky_]

How hard is it to add up, Floyd landed 171 and pacquaio landed 126, broken into rounds, r1 f=10, p=0 R2 f=8 p= 10. R3 f=8 p=9. R4 f=11 p=21. R5 f=18 p=6. R6 f=16 p=16 R7 f=17 p=10. R8 f=17 p=13. R9 f=12 p=13. R10 f=11 p=13. R11 f=26 p=13. R12 f=17 p= 12, gee that was hard

The stats aren't broken down into jabs or straights (like CompuBox does). The info. you supplied isn't useful without this detail.

have you not had enough of this crap????

Hi, i'd appreciate it if you could avoid quoting Boregus as it overrides the ignore feature and exposes me to his spam, such as compubox detailing 'straights' .

Thanks.

[KBB]

Hey , I'm happy, KBB and ferg haven't managed to show any proof I'm wrong, any proof I'm biased and in fact I think ferg has spent more time going through the dictionary looking up words to try and make himself look more intelligent than he obviously is, at the end of the day ferg, you have argued yourself to a resounding loss

Here's the proof that you are wrong, I counted the exact same amount of punches that CompuBox did, I'm not sure where you dreamt up the 171 punches Floyd landed and the 126 you claimed Packy landed.

I'm not going to even bother with doing at breakdown round by round (that's too tedious and I don't owe you a thing). So in the future stop counting when they swing and miss as opposed to when they actually swing and hit something and then maybe you'll actually learn how to count the punches landed accordingly.

I had to disappear to watch the fight to see what I knew I had seen the first time all over again, rarely would I say this but this time because of the clarity of punches both men actually threw you could honestly see which ones hit and which ones miss and oddly enough CompuBox was nearly spot on with my count barring a few shots they counted for MP which didn't land but I gave him the same credit for them simply for the sake of evening things up so it wouldn't be too much of a gap making Floyd look even more dominant than the stats actually show.

Now we can move on to our 25 pages of arguing about my find vs Pureist's fantasy find.