Wilder's Next Fight

[Rob Magic]

Mandatory or voluntary. Obviously Molina was a voluntary but I am not exactly sure how the whole mandatory/voluntary defence works. Governing bodies seem to move the goal posts all the time. Surely his next fight must be one of these. Povetkin is Silver Champion.
WBC rankings
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Anthony Joshua
3. Vyacheslav Glazkov
4. Bermane Stiverne
5. Bryant Jennings

[davie]

They wont put him in with Povetkin if they can avoid it.

[Ian1973]

Klitschko. They are the two world champions lets unify the titles and see who is the best.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Can someone explain to me the political ramifications of Wilder vs Povetkin? Like, how long does Wilder have to face him, what are the ways Haymon could avoid him if he doesn't like the job etc?

Is it a case of if they can't agree terms within X days it would go to purse bids and Povetkin's crazy Russian billionaire backer would surely win?

Call me crazy, but this might actually be a good time for a Ferg post.

[Ian1973]

Can someone explain to me the political ramifications of Wilder vs Povetkin? Like, how long does Wilder have to face him, what are the ways Haymon could avoid him if he doesn't like the job etc?

Is it a case of if they can't agree terms within X days it would go to purse bids and Povetkin's crazy Russian billionaire backer would surely win?

Call me crazy, but this might actually be a good time for a Ferg post.

Too much politics in boxing. We have two heavyweight "world champions" - it should be automatic to pitch them together to find the "real" world champion. Anything else is artificial.

[cold187]

WBC said negotiations start earliest in October. So expect fight in 2016

[greg]

..considering Wilder's resume, I wouldn't be surprised if his team goes for someone less dangerous...

[claudevsq]

Povetkin is Wilder's next fight (mandatory). Chagaev will fight Pianeta on July 11, and Klitschko will next fight Tyson Fury, who is his WBA & WBO mandatory. His IBF mandatory is Vyacheslav Glazkov. Maybe next year, we will see a rematch between Povetkin and Klitschko as unification fight, if Povetkin manages to grab the green and gold until then.

[Badhusker]

I don't think Wilder will shy away from Povetkin, and said he will fight him in the post fight interview. I'm glad he admitted he is a work in progress, because he sure looked it. Molina was chosen so he could test his right hand, and seemed reluctant to throw it several times. Sometimes boxers fight down to the competition, and maybe that was the case. Hopefully his hand is ok and we can see him vs Povetkin next.

[Leonid]

I'm pretty sure the next opponent is gonna be another Eric Molina. Probably Spilka. Povetkin fight will not be forced to happen this year by WBC. Other top contenders are all too risky, except for Glazkov, who will wait for his mandatory big-money fight with Klitscko.

[Counter-puncher]

Call me crazy, but this might actually be a good time for a Ferg post.

Woah, easy there son, lets take a minute to think about this eh?

[Counter-puncher]

Fair play I actually read that post. That was probably the best post I have ever seen you make, Fergus.

[MachoTime]

Therefore, based on Wilder & Haymon’s desire to retain ownership of the WBC strap, I predict that Deontay will be quite busy and may try to perform three quick defences of his title against opponents of Molina’s ilk, because he obviously needs to learn his trade before mixing with truly top-tier world-class talent.

This is a good prediction. I would not doubt it. I hope this isn't so. The way Boxing is today. Wilder seems to fit right here. Might be good business sense on the fighters side. But detrimental to Boxing Fans expectations.

Fair play I actually read that post. That was probably the best post I have ever seen you make, Fergus.

Good Breakdown. I wonder sometimes if Fergus posts these things off the top of his head. Cause it would take me a couple of days to post a breakdown like that. I doubt I could even post something like that to begin with.

[Tony1244]

Judging by Wilder's abysmal performance, I'd guess his next fight with be a Stiverne rematch or perhaps Arreola. Possibly Spilkva.

[world ranked]

Judging by Wilder's abysmal performance, I'd guess his next fight with be a Stiverne rematch or perhaps Arreola. Possibly Spilkva.

Yeah I agree Spzika, Arreola or Cunningham-Tarver winner. I wanna see how that Povetkin situation play out

[Badhusker]

Even though he had a sub-par performance, I would like to see him against Povetkin, Parker, or Joshua. If you are a champ you don't need more tuneups. Lets see what he is made of, win or lose.

[world ranked]

Even though he had a sub-par performance, I would like to see him against Povetkin, Parker, or Joshua. If you are a champ you don't need more tuneups. Lets see what he is made of, win or lose.

Why is Parker mentioned who he's ever beat to even be in the discussions

[Badhusker]

I believe that Deontay Wilder’s inexperience and lack of boxing ability was badly exposed last night and he has until Spring of next year to address many of his stylistic flaws, because if he doesn’t, his WBC world heavyweight title will be heading to Russia (as he’s due to perform a mandatory defence against Alexander Povetkin).

Here’s a list of some of the flaws that I saw in Deontay’s performance last night:

• I didn’t witness Wilder exploit any counter-punching opportunities, despite his claim during the post-fight interview that he’s trying to become more “scientific” in his approach by out-boxing his opponents.

• For the vast majority of the first three rounds, Wilder did a lot of posturing, looking for openings (rather than creating them). He doesn’t appear to know how to break down his opponent or to create openings. He simply chased the ‘Drummer Boy’ around the ring and then occasionally threw clumsy wide hooks when he saw an opportunity… and I feel that an experienced opponent could easily counter or defend these badly telegraphed shots.

• During stages of last night’s fight, Deontay Wilder employed a static high guard that committed his arms to defence… and due to his lack of knowledge of that stance, he didn’t know how to counter Molina’s hooks to the body and uppercuts to the head.

• What was intriguing, which you’ll clearly see in the seventh round, was Deontay’s response to being on the receiving end of several solid hooks to the body whilst his own guard was high, because instead of using his legs move himself out of punching range, he instead lowered his guard and he brought his elbows down to his hips.

His reaction was reminiscent to James Kirkland’s or Julian Jackson’s when they got KO’d by Canelo Alvarez and Mike McCallum respectively. An experienced boxer would exploit Wilder’s natural tendency, by throwing a combo, by feinting or touching the body and immediately following up with a heavy blow to the head. Molina managed to land a few decent hooks to the body, but he didn’t carry enough ambition or possess enough skill to exploit Deontay’s vulnerabilities when he brought his guard down.

• Deontay Wilder doesn’t appear to know how to finish-off his opponents, because instead of using controlled aggression and picking his shots, he was off balance (as he loaded-up on every blow) whilst randomly flailing away several looping clumsy hooks. I think that this weakness would allow a decent opponent to survive his onslaughts and they may even be able exploit it (if they played possum and threw a decent counter).

At this point in time, barring a lottery-winning million-to-one-shot KO punch, I don’t believe that Wilder would stand a chance of beating the likes of Fury & Klitschko. He has far too much to learn.

Therefore, based on Wilder & Haymon’s desire to retain ownership of the WBC strap, I predict that Deontay will be quite busy and may try to perform three quick defences of his title against opponents of Molina’s ilk, because he obviously needs to learn his trade before mixing with truly top-tier world-class talent.

omg, do you always have to write a fornicating book? I think I write too much sometimes, but compared to you? WF

[Freedom2013]

Looks like Wilder will likely be back on September 26 against another poor opponent. He'll avoid and delay the Povetkin fight for as long as the WBC will allow him to.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-targe ... 015--92298

[Badhusker]

Looks like Wilder will likely be back on September 26 against another poor opponent. He'll avoid and delay the Povetkin fight for as long as the WBC will allow him to.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-targe ... 015--92298

Yeah, I guess he could have fought the scary top contender 11-1 Kyotaro Fujimoto, but Joe Parker already has him booked. Fujimoto's loss was to a rugby player.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Looks like Wilder will likely be back on September 26 against another poor opponent. He'll avoid and delay the Povetkin fight for as long as the WBC will allow him to.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-targe ... 015--92298

How long will the WBC allow him to? is it one of those murky, seemingly arbitrary rulings we get in boxing, or is there a fixed date by which the fight needs to happen?

[Badhusker]

Looks like Wilder will likely be back on September 26 against another poor opponent. He'll avoid and delay the Povetkin fight for as long as the WBC will allow him to.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-targe ... 015--92298

How long will the WBC allow him to? is it one of those murky, seemingly arbitrary rulings we get in boxing, or is there a fixed date by which the fight needs to happen?

I think typically boxers have a year to make at least one mandatory and one voluntary defense. A title unification bout could be used instead of a mandatory. As much as Wilder screamed about Stiverne having to fight him since he was the mandatory, he should honor it and fight Povetkin next. What I am not sure about is if he has a year from when he got the title to fight Povetkin, or if he has to do it next.

Probably not an answer to your question. Basically, if the WBC board votes, they can grant extensions or do whatever they want. I'm sure $$$ talks.

[tiny_acres]

Looks like Wilder will likely be back on September 26 against another poor opponent. He'll avoid and delay the Povetkin fight for as long as the WBC will allow him to.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-targe ... 015--92298

Wilder can beat Arreola.But I think if he fights Thompson he may have some problems.
It would be funny to see a geriatric like Thompson take the WBC title

[Crease]

http://www.BS.com/wilder-targe ... 015--92298

"For his next fight, it will be about whatever is the right deal, the best fit for his career. Whether it turns out to a Povetkin fight or any other top heavyweight contender, it doesn't matter. We just want to be back in there by the end of September, and then if we can by the end of the year"

I think if we are to be honest, those comments by Jay Deas speaks volumes about how Wilder is going to be managed. As such, the evidence clearly tells us that he won't be going in against anyone like Povetkin, Fury or Pulev. And we can definitely 1000% rule out Klitschko - Wilder would need far longer than that to get ready (or should I say "get as best prepared he can be") for the big man...

I think looking at his career thus far, it's very plausible that they will be looking for an American opponent. Having two American Heavyweights fight for a World Heavyweight tile will always attract attention in your country. And I think they will purposefully handpick an opponent who is smaller than Wilder and has a significant reach disadvantage (as Molina did).

So, I would suggest that he'll fight any two from:
Johnathon Banks, Amir Mansour, Derric Rossy, Shannon Briggs, Eddie Chambers

I'd be betting on Banks & Rossy as being his next two opponents. Neither of which pose any sort of threat to him. And he would look good in blitzing them out of the ring

[Freedom2013]

Wilder will choose the weakest possible WBC ranked HW.

Current WBC rankings (will change in a few weeks):

1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia) SILVER
2 .- Anthony Joshua (GB) INTL
3 .- Vyacheslav Glazkov (Ukraine)
4 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
5 .- Bryant Jennings (US)
6 .- Lucas Browne (Australia)
7 .- Eric Molina (US)
8 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF
9 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland)
10 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
11 .- Tony Thompson (US) AMERICA
12 .- Chris Arreola (US)
13 .- Johann Duhaupas (France)
14 .- Mike Perez (Cuba/Ireland)
15 .- Kyotaro Fujimoto (Japan)

He'll fight #13 to #15 on September 26.

If Arreola looks bad again in July, Wilder might fight him.