Deontay Wilder Is a Joke

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Deontay Wilder Is a Joke

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Will someone please knock this guy out already? My guess is that they will continue to put him in there with truck drivers so he can parade around the ring making that stupid smirk into the camera like he's accomplished something. He's got one legitimate win over Stiverne but the rest of them were part time boxers, one I know personally. This guy had been retired and didn't plan on boxing again until he got a call a week before the fight. This guy had more losses than wins but somehow they freshened up his record prior to the fight by taking a magic pen to his losses making him a more credible and legitimate fighter.

Don't fall for this BS. This guy is a fabricated impending disaster and I really can't wait until a legitimate boxer (who's in shape, Stiverne!) get's in there and wrecks him. If Molina can give this guy all he could handle then what do you think Klitchko would do? What about Lennox Lewis or Evander Holyfield back in the day? One round, maybe two....Wilder would be a grease spot. SOMEONE PLEASE KNOCK HIM OUT
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You are obviously trying to hurt someone's feelings or piss someone off, but doubt if it will happen here. I know of no one that thinks Wilder is a pfp great. He is a decent boxer with a big punch, a decent jab, decent hook, and a work in progress like he admitted.

Molina was a tune-up, and as bad as I thought Wilder looked, Molina was much worse. He should have been stopped the first time he turned his back after getting hurt, but went on to do it 2 or 3 more times. The 1st or 2nd time he did it the fight should have been stopped. Wilder looked hesitant to throw his right, which makes me wonder if it is fully healed or he hurt it again. He should go to the body more instead of head-hunting like he does.

I won't count him out just yet. He is a gym rat that is always in shape, and is willing to learn. He has a lot to learn, but to say he is a joke is kind of harsh for any world champ. Maybe a loss will help him get better? Who knows. He is and always be a dangerous fight for any heavy out there.
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Wilder isn't a joke, but he looked absolutely horrendous. He just refused to throw the Right much. He beat Molina almost with 1 hand.
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Tony1244 wrote:Wilder isn't a joke, but he looked absolutely horrendous. He just refused to throw the Right much. He beat Molina almost with 1 hand.
I hope it is realized, among all the "negative nancys" that Wilder and his team specifically picked this opponent to test his hand?

The whole boxing world knows by now it wasn't a great performance.
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I like watching him fight. He ain't that great but he's game and tries. I want to see him fight that tall Irish bloke Fury.
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He should hire the Mayweather's to help him with his LACK OF DEFENCE.. :D
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jewboypgh wrote:I like watching him fight. He ain't that great but he's game and tries. I want to see him fight that tall Irish bloke Fury.
Though I do not think Wilder is a joke.I do not see any way possible for him to beat Fury.
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tiny_acres wrote:
jewboypgh wrote:I like watching him fight. He ain't that great but he's game and tries. I want to see him fight that tall Irish bloke Fury.
Though I do not think Wilder is a joke.I do not see any way possible for him to beat Fury.
Hahaha

Fury is the fuucking joke and a stupid looking one at that.

Gaurantee Wilder would knock that annoying loud mouth goofy looking no skill muthafucker out cold.
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verballistic wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:Wilder isn't a joke, but he looked absolutely horrendous. He just refused to throw the Right much. He beat Molina almost with 1 hand.
Fighting a scrub like Molina was a joke, but in defense of Wilder I really think his pathetic performance was based on the fact he didnt take Molina seriously and had zero respect for him as an opponent. When Wilder fought Stiverne he respected his power and as a result fought very cautiously and intelligently > using his reach advantage and jab plus showing ring movement to avoid Stiverne's power.

If Wilder fights Fury as cautiously and intelligently as he fought Stiverne he can win a decision. If Wilder fights Fury and fails to take him seriously, the way he disrespected Molina he will clearly get KOd. :zzz:
I agree 100%. He did fight a lot differently, and think you are right it had a lot to do with not respecting Molina. You could tell he was a little hesitant to test his hand. Most heavys are big enough punchers to hurt each other if you get careless and sloppy. Fury has been on the deck, and Wlad was KO'd 2 or 3 times early in his career. I wouldn't consider either "chinny". One thing for sure, Wilder needs to be in top form to compete with Fury, Wlad, Joshua, Povetkin, etc, or he won't last long.
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Badhusker wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:Wilder isn't a joke, but he looked absolutely horrendous. He just refused to throw the Right much. He beat Molina almost with 1 hand.
I hope it is realized, among all the "negative nancys" that Wilder and his team specifically picked this opponent to test his hand?

The whole boxing world knows by now it wasn't a great performance.

I don't think calling a bad performance bad is being a negative nancy.
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It was definitely not a great outing. But as ordinary as Wilder looked at times, there was plenty of good signs as well. Yes, Deontay got rocked by a guy he had no business getting hit by, but now we know Wilder has the ability to stay calm when things go south. He also showed a little versatility and adaptability, using the hook when Molina was waiting on his right hand. All in all, nothing to be too high or low about. Wilder was a lot better defensively against Stiverne. Remains to be seen whether he is regressing or it was simply a case of taking the opponent a bit too lightly.
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What do you guys think about Molina turning his back when hurt? V. Ortiz was immediately stopped for doing the same thine with Collazo. Molina did it at least 2 or 3 times.
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When Molina had Wilder rocked it was absolutely shocking he didn't just go all in for the kill. 99% of fighters in that spot would have pounced on Wilder like a rabid dog.

Instead Molina just kept oafing around the ring as if he hadn't even touched him lol. It was bizarre. I wasn't buying the announcer's saying "he didn't realize he rocked him." I mean, REALLY? It was plain as day.

It's almost like Molina didn't WANT to finish him off....very odd.
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Seems as if heavyweight history really does repeat itself....Wilder busy rewinding things back to the Joe Louis 'bum a month' era.
Crucial difference is that JL made short/easy work of the assorted journeyman, light heavy's chancing their arm, bartenders and ageing retreads.
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Bodyshot3 wrote:Seems as if heavyweight history really does repeat itself....Wilder busy rewinding things back to the Joe Louis 'bum a month' era.
Crucial difference is that JL made short/easy work of the assorted journeyman, light heavy's chancing their arm, bartenders and ageing retreads.
You do realize that it was his first defence, right?First fight back after breaking his hand? If it goes on and on I'll agree with you, but until then what you are saying is totally off base.
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People have discussed not to big up AJ as he needs to be tested....maybe People need to stop bigging up wilder ... He has only beaten one live oppenant who lost to top hw in adamek and vlad... I hear it's his first defence or its broken hand ... it's more like he really isn't that good technically, has no defence. but seems nice enough lad who tries to entertain with KO ....If doentay is the answer to hw division then it's a dark period for the hw division.
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verballistic wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:It was definitely not a great outing. But as ordinary as Wilder looked at times, there was plenty of good signs as well. Yes, Deontay got rocked by a guy he had no business getting hit by, but now we know Wilder has the ability to stay calm when things go south. He also showed a little versatility and adaptability, using the hook when Molina was waiting on his right hand. All in all, nothing to be too high or low about. Wilder was a lot better defensively against Stiverne. Remains to be seen whether he is regressing or it was simply a case of taking the opponent a bit too lightly.
If Wilder fights as cautiously and intelligently as he did vs Stiverne, he is competitive with any HW besides Wlad. His long reach, athleticism and ring movement helped him clearly avoid Stiverne's power and win an easy decision. Beating Fury, Joshua or Povetkin wont be nearly as easy as beating Stiverne, but he can still win a competitive verdict against those guys if he follows the Stiverne strategy. But he's got to avoid their power, just like he did Stiverne's...if he is lured into a slugfest with any of them, it would be a short night!! :zzz:
He needs to take clinching lessons from Wlad or Ward. He would have to stand on his knees if he wants such lessons from Mayweather :lol: :lol: :lol:
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i feel like deontay has some technical flaws,
especially with balance. so far his physique
and power saved him fights, but i do not see
how he could get away with these weaknesses
against wlad. after wilder's latest performance
i doubt his careful management will let him go
in there with wlad. so here goes the second
supposedly great fight of 2015.

i used to see the next great thing in him, now
changed my mind. will hang in there with others,
but his careful match making will make it more
and more difficult to feel excited for him.

whatever. seems like a nice dude and it ain't
his fault he is not superman.
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man wrote:
whatever. seems like a nice dude and it ain't
his fault he is not superman.
:TU: good point
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He looked so hesitant to throw his right and wasn't using the jab like he did against Stiverne. I think he hurt his hand and was nervous of losing the fight. Anyway, I feel like guys like him and Broner can only go so far before they need a new coach to tell them their style isn't going to cut it and help them improve. He's going to get killed by any well rounded guy.
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You people are funny. Wilder was testing his hand? Wilder was really trying hard in there? Are you kidding me with these excuses? He's supposed to be one of the heavyweight champions of the world. He holds one of the most treasured titles in the history of sports. Either fight deserving contenders or knock out the garbage boxers impressively and early. Everyone now knows what we have with Wilder. A fabricated champion who won one big fight and that's it. I honestly think that Tarver would knock Wilder out right now. Watching Wilder get counted out will be about as enjoyable as watching Broner get beaten by Maidana. Gone will be that dumb smirk into the camera like we should be impressed that he knocked out the guy that just gave me an oil change. I'm not impressed and can't way til he's gone.
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Tony1244 wrote:I don't think calling a bad performance bad is being a negative nancy.
It wasn't a bad performance overall, he KO'd the guy. It isn't so much that he's pointing out that Wilder didn't have a brilliant performance, it's the fact that he's calling Wilder a joke.

Wilder is still a work in progress regardless of having a title, Stiverne is a highly skilled fighter and Wilder beat him easily. FWIW, I think Wilder did fight a different fight with Molina than he did with Bermane just as Triple G fought a different fight with Monroe than he did in his previous bouts.

To be overly critical to a man who has picked up this sport late and learning on the job and to call him a joke is just being spiteful and may have some other ulterior motives behind it.
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tiny_acres wrote:
jewboypgh wrote:I like watching him fight. He ain't that great but he's game and tries. I want to see him fight that tall Irish bloke Fury.
Though I do not think Wilder is a joke.I do not see any way possible for him to beat Fury.
I don't either, unless Fury reverts to his old ways all of a sudden. He would just move around outside and befuddle Wilder with his awkward style, reach and good hand speed.

He's not going to be a stationary come forward target like Stiverne, cash in his check like Scott or be game but outgunned like Molina.
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caldo2025 wrote:You people are funny. Wilder was testing his hand? Wilder was really trying hard in there? Are you kidding me with these excuses? He's supposed to be one of the heavyweight champions of the world. He holds one of the most treasured titles in the history of sports. Either fight deserving contenders or knock out the garbage boxers impressively and early. Everyone now knows what we have with Wilder. A fabricated champion who won one big fight and that's it. I honestly think that Tarver would knock Wilder out right now. Watching Wilder get counted out will be about as enjoyable as watching Broner get beaten by Maidana. Gone will be that dumb smirk into the camera like we should be impressed that he knocked out the guy that just gave me an oil change. I'm not impressed and can't way til he's gone.
hard to dispute that ...
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KBB wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:I don't think calling a bad performance bad is being a negative nancy.
It wasn't a bad performance overall, he KO'd the guy. It isn't so much that he's pointing out that Wilder didn't have a brilliant performance, it's the fact that he's calling Wilder a joke.

Wilder is still a work in progress regardless of having a title, Stiverne is a highly skilled fighter and Wilder beat him easily. FWIW, I think Wilder did fight a different fight with Molina than he did with Bermane just as Triple G fought a different fight with Monroe than he did in his previous bouts.

To be overly critical to a man who has picked up this sport late and learning on the job and to call him a joke is just being spiteful and may have some other ulterior motives behind it.
Even though Wilder stated it himself. The work in progress part could be Wilder being humble. I'm kind of on the fence about the work in progress part. Wilder already holds the WBC crown. Wilder had to go thru Stiverne to get it. But you already know how it is Wilder beats Stiverne and then Stiverne become crap. It never changes.
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