Current heavyweight situation shows the litle boxing knowledge of this forum

[crusader]

Wlad is an exception in being able to turn his career around like he did and he always had far more skill than Wilder has shown, never looking like a windmilling novice. With Wlad it was largely about using what he already had more intelligently (e.g. better pacing) rather than actively developing rudimentary qualities or qualities that didn't even exist, and keep in mind that he was 22 when he first lost and had only been a pro for 2 years--so it took him years to develop into the fighter he is today.

Wilder, who is now 30 and going on 7 years a pro, has shown very notable technical flaws for a while and doesn't seem to be improving much. He still packs a very good punch and is a dangerous opponent for anyone in the division in my view, but with his glaring flaws I don't see him having prolonged success as a champion unless he's largely kept away from top opponents.

[hurricanemitch14]

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Actually, by Wilder's age, Ruslan Chagaev's resume was better. When all is said and done, it is possible that Chagaev will have more successful title defenses than Wilder. But maybe not.[/quote]

I was comparing Wlads 1st 34 fights with Deontays 34 fights. Not age.

[Freedom2013]

It’s also worth noting that Klitschko turned pro at 21 years of age and became the WBO champion when he was 25 years old.

Actually, he turned pro at age 20 after the 1996 Olympics:

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:11133

and Klitschko won the WBO title at the age of 24:

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:34136

(which further illustrates your original point)

[funso banjo baby]

deontay's reign will not last long if his entire arsenal consists of one single right hand

[Badhusker]

Wilder age is misleading regarding experience, and comparisons to Wlad are kind of laughable. Wlad had about 140 amateur fights compared to Wilder's 20 or so? Even as a pro, almost 30 of Wilder's fights ended before round 4. Add it all up, and he has probably gotten more out of sparring Wlad for 50 rounds, than in the ring, by far. He admitted he is a work in progress.

[Badhusker]

Stating facts about Wilder's experience isn't making excuses. The comparison was with Wlad. He had 120 more amateur fights than Wilder. Most of Wilders pro fights were less than 4 rounds. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out his time in the ring for his age isn't a lot, and the reason he was brought along slowly.

Maybe after he gets ktfo 3 times like Wlad did people will give him a chance?

[tiny_acres]

Stating facts about Wilder's experience isn't making excuses. The comparison was with Wlad. He had 120 more amateur fights than Wilder. Most of Wilders pro fights were less than 4 rounds. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out his time in the ring for his age isn't a lot, and the reason he was brought along slowly.

Maybe after he gets ktfo 3 times like Wlad did people will give him a chance?

Please refrain from using stats to argue with ferguson. He thinks he is the only one who can do so.

[Chepppaaa]

People forget Wlad had to get kod 3 times before dominating. Its called growing as a fighter. U need to look at Wlads resume compared to Wilder. They're pretty close.

The resumes of both Wilder & Klitschko for the first 6½ years of their careers aren’t remotely close:

• Deontay Wilder = [34-0 (33 KO’s)] A bronze medallist at the 2008 Olympic Games and also captured the WBC heavyweight title by beating Bermane Stiverne. None of the other opponents he faced were recognised as world-rated fighters.

• Wladimir Klitschko = [42-2 (35 KO’s)] A gold medallist at the 1996 Olympic Games, competed in seven world title fights and faced the likes of: Phil Jackson; Axel Schulz; Chris Byrd; Monte Barrett; Corrie Sanders; Jameel McCline; Ray Mercer & Frans Botha

The main difference between Wilder and Klitschko, if we’re comparing their resumes over the same timeframe, is that the rather obvious reason for Wladimir suffering a couple of losses (with Deontay being undefeated) is that the Ukrainian engaged in bouts against the very best opposition available.

Another thing to note, is that Klitschko continued to improve and knew when to seek help in order to address his mistakes, which was the main reason why he employed Emmanuel Steward and also clearly explains why he hasn’t tasted defeat in more than eleven years (despite competing in 27 world title fights).

what you call improve is hugging, wrestling and holding

[Chepppaaa]

wtf cares about wlad, why comparing wlad with wilder...so many non experts on here. its delusional.

experts would talk about what a boxer can do, where he is good and bad. in every term, physic and technic..

ya morons only discuss 1 page about who was better in 6 years wlad or wilder, who cares. morons.

[Chepppaaa]

Is this care in the community day, where all the mentally-disturbed and emotionally-troubled people are on day release? [/quote]
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excessive holding and hugging or leaning over is dq loss. wlad losses barely every sinlge fight based on this point.