Calzaghe-certain-he-would-have-demolished froch-in-his-prime

[Boxerbeetle]

Two actually. To earth with love and a little joy. Not that I'm obsessed or owt

To Earth with Love was the one I remembered, was their debut single I think. They might not have been as bad as I remember, but the hype really put me off.

[stevieb_8006]

Two actually. To earth with love and a little joy. Not that I'm obsessed or owt

To Earth with Love was the one I remembered, was their debut single I think. They might not have been as bad as I remember, but the hype really put me off.

It was over by the time they we about. Right bunch of Johnny come latelys

[Boxerbeetle]

Two actually. To earth with love and a little joy. Not that I'm obsessed or owt

To Earth with Love was the one I remembered, was their debut single I think. They might not have been as bad as I remember, but the hype really put me off.

It was over by the time they we about. Right bunch of Johnny come latelys

Yeah I guess they were the opposite of bands like Pulp or OCS, who were around for about 10-15 years before they got some media attention.

[stevieb_8006]

Yeah I guess they were the opposite of bands like Pulp or OCS, who were around for about 10-15 years before they got some media attention.

Andy bell was gona join them before he got offered oasis.

I remember at the time thinking Jarvis was ancient because he was 31.

[Boxerbeetle]

Just remembered my favourite Britpop memory - when Placebo played TOTP for the first time (with Nancy Boy, I believe), one of my mates came into school the next day saying he'd had a great wank to the fit female singer. We were fvcking delighted to inform him that Brian Molko was in fact a bloke. Needless to say, he has never ever lived that one down

[freddydoesdallas]

It all happened well before they got signed.

It didn't. They may have had a song or 2 on their like most bands but the big surge they had that grabbed the spotlight was label led

I've still got the cd of demos I had a year before they signed to Domino, before they re-recorded everything and ruined the sound.

I'm not doubting that at all. Bands produce demos to get signed and there's always fans of a band at the start. What I'm saying is the huge surge that led to the debut album going crazy was label led promotion building on their own smaller scale online success. They saw a successful model, built on it and let it be seen as 'fan-led'

[SNG]

Yeah of course it was, but the swell of support was there well before they got signed. They were quite well known through word of mouth and file sharing of the demos (I still think a lot of those recordings sound better than the reproduced ones) I've never really gotten back into them since the day I heard the single version of I Bet you Look Good on the Dance Floor, didn't even by the first album. Of course the label were responsible for the push for the album though.

[jamesmcdonnell]

That's how people consume music these days, Sheeran is a musician, he doesn't control that.

What exactly did Oasis extort people to achieve - or are you saying that merely by dint of being working class lads, their careers were somehow more noble, let's face it, their songs were mostly utter twaddle - do you not think that Ed Sheeran will inspire people to pick up guitars and write songs - who cares if he is posh? Ed Sheeran busked on the streets for quite some time before he got a record deal, he didn't walk out of music school and into a record contract.

I am pretty sure that thinking out loud if no other song he's done, will be played in 20 years time, without a doubt.

I don't give a shite if someone is from a council estate, or a stately home in Buckinghamshire, so long as they write songs with some actual content that is pertinent to how people really live their lives and how they feel - Music doesn't have to be angry to be relevant.

There's still plenty of people from council estates going into music, it's not the sole preserve of the landed gentry! I doubt that anyone is going to mistake Adele for Audrey Hepburn!

I guess we will have to agree to disagree - I like Ed Sheeran, I guess you don't. I also like Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Barrington Levy, The Faces, Cream, BB King, and a whole host of other disparate music, the one thing they all have in common, is great voices and great songs, really, that's all there is.

[stevieb_8006]

Just remembered my favourite Britpop memory - when Placebo played TOTP for the first time (with Nancy Boy, I believe), one of my mates came into school the next day saying he'd had a great wank to the fit female singer. We were fvcking delighted to inform him that Brian Molko was in fact a bloke. Needless to say, he has never ever lived that one down

Lol!

Bruise pristine was a total tune!

[stevieb_8006]

That's how people consume music these days, Sheeran is a musician, he doesn't control that.

What exactly did Oasis extort people to achieve - or are you saying that merely by dint of being working class lads, their careers were somehow more noble, let's face it, their songs were mostly utter twaddle - do you not think that Ed Sheeran will inspire people to pick up guitars and write songs - who cares if he is posh? Ed Sheeran busked on the streets for quite some time before he got a record deal, he didn't walk out of music school and into a record contract.

I am pretty sure that thinking out loud if no other song he's done, will be played in 20 years time, without a doubt.

I don't give a shite if someone is from a council estate, or a stately home in Buckinghamshire, so long as they write songs with some actual content that is pertinent to how people really live their lives and how they feel - Music doesn't have to be angry to be relevant.

There's still plenty of people from council estates going into music, it's not the sole preserve of the landed gentry! I doubt that anyone is going to mistake Adele for Audrey Hepburn!

I guess we will have to agree to disagree - I like Ed Sheeran, I guess you don't. I also like Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Barrington Levy, The Faces, Cream, BB King, and a whole host of other disparate music, the one thing they all have in common, is great voices and great songs, really, that's all there is.

I hate the "working class, badge of honour" shite.

[Counter-puncher]

Speaking of ed sheeran, you don't see much of David gray nowadays.

[SNG]

Speaking of ed sheeran, you don't see much of David gray nowadays.

Don't know, I think of him every time I see one of those wobbly dogs heads in the back of cars.

[orbtastic]

Talking of crap music, or music that hasn't dated well. I had to do four playlists for a mate's wedding. First couple were decent, I was pleasantly surprised by my mate's wife's taste in music but then she completely ruined it by asking for a "reception" playlist which consisted entire of chillout tunes. Not the good sort of kind - Early Bonobo or Thievery Corporation, dZien & Kamien or even Kruder & Dorfmeister but that sort of banal, washed out plinky plonky predictable turgid pap that nearly always has "sol", "sunset" or some godawful spelling of a word like funk (phunk). Terrible.

She is actually in the video for a Mondays song, to take it full circle.

[handsofstone]

I'm a massive Oasis fan ,I've got every Single and Album, I don't listen to them these days mind you but everyone I used to hang about with was into them and every house party I was ever at had Oasis tunes blaring

Why can't bands write decent tunes anymore?

Any fans of The View here,they know how to write a tune

[Counter-puncher]

Speaking of ed sheeran, you don't see much of David gray nowadays.

Don't know, I think of him every time I see one of those wobbly dogs heads in the back of cars.

Haha. I could never make any kind of judgement on his music as I just couldn't get past how irritating his spaccy headnodding tic was.

[SNG]

Speaking of ed sheeran, you don't see much of David gray nowadays.

Don't know, I think of him every time I see one of those wobbly dogs heads in the back of cars.

Haha. I could never make any kind of judgement on his music as I just couldn't get past how irritating his spaccy headnodding tic was.

I couldn't actually name you one of his songs, his face instantly filled me with a deep anger so I always turned over.

Toploader too about the same time, that song still gives me the fear. When ever that comes on anywhere I genuinely judge people on their reaction to it, if you sing along joyfully I'll never speak to you ever again.

[freddydoesdallas]

That's how people consume music these days, Sheeran is a musician, he doesn't control that.

What exactly did Oasis extort people to achieve - or are you saying that merely by dint of being working class lads, their careers were somehow more noble, let's face it, their songs were mostly utter twaddle - do you not think that Ed Sheeran will inspire people to pick up guitars and write songs - who cares if he is posh? Ed Sheeran busked on the streets for quite some time before he got a record deal, he didn't walk out of music school and into a record contract.

I am pretty sure that thinking out loud if no other song he's done, will be played in 20 years time, without a doubt.

I don't give a shite if someone is from a council estate, or a stately home in Buckinghamshire, so long as they write songs with some actual content that is pertinent to how people really live their lives and how they feel - Music doesn't have to be angry to be relevant.

There's still plenty of people from council estates going into music, it's not the sole preserve of the landed gentry! I doubt that anyone is going to mistake Adele for Audrey Hepburn!

I guess we will have to agree to disagree - I like Ed Sheeran, I guess you don't. I also like Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Barrington Levy, The Faces, Cream, BB King, and a whole host of other disparate music, the one thing they all have in common, is great voices and great songs, really, that's all there is.

they showed that you can achieve. Calling their first 2 albums twaddle is a bit much, some of those songs are full of meaning.

The point about being angry is that there is a lot for people to be angry about at the minute and music has always been a vehicle to get this out. These people are being supressed by the record companies sticking with safe, inoffensive music that appeal to the corporate plastic culture we have. This is a time for the voice of a generation to speak up yet we have the likes of sheeran, George ezra and cheryl cole thanking their sponsors at every opportunity. I don't particularly like Coldplay but at least chris martin speaks out for what he believes in.

in general, i do like a range of music including the ones you list. I'm just disappointed at the current blandness of the generation.

sorry for going off topic everyone.

[Counter-puncher]

Is that dancing in the moonlight, toploader?

[Boxerbeetle]

Is that dancing in the moonlight, toploader?

Yeah I think so. I always get them confused with Starsailor

[stevieb_8006]

Is that dancing in the moonlight, toploader?

Yeah I think so. I always get them confused with Starsailor

Starsailor did alcoholic. They were shit

[Counter-puncher]

Is that dancing in the moonlight, toploader?

Yeah I think so. I always get them confused with Starsailor

Right. The scene with that song in Four Lions was pissfunny though SNG, it worked in that context at least

[Boxerbeetle]

Is that dancing in the moonlight, toploader?

Yeah I think so. I always get them confused with Starsailor

Starsailor did alcoholic. They were poo

Agreed they were generally poo, but I did really like Good Souls.

[stevieb_8006]

Agreed they were generally poo, but I did really like Good Souls.

They were the poor mans embrace weren't they?

[mickey1975]

Embrace were quality. Still are.

[stevieb_8006]

Embrace were quality. Still are.

Brought their greatest hits from morrisons for two quid. Bargain. Wonder is a great tune. Very underrated band.