David Lemieux would beat GGG

[crusader]

Actually I don't believe that, but now that I've got your attention I'll say that I think that is one of the best fights that could be made at 160. GGG is obviously the better fighter overall, but he's been easy to hit lately and Lemieux has serious power--in my opinion more than any of GGG's previous opponents. Also, there seems to be a widespread belief that aggressive fighters like David are playing into GGG's hands, but most of the success his opponents have had occurred when they pressed him, while his best moments tend to come when opponents are timid and back near the ropes.

So I think GGG would prevail by stoppage, but I also believe there could at least be drama and moments of adversity for GGG.

[ikorolev]

Do you seriously think that GGG will fight Lemieux the same way he fought feather-fisted Murray and Monroe ? He doesn't need to lure Lemieux into opening up like he did with Geale, as Lemieux opens up himself.

[crusader]

I think GGG would be more defensively alert, but he's never been a good defensive fighter and was hit plenty is other fights when his opponents pressed him.

[ikorolev]

Oscar, please let us see that !

[crusader]

And because it will be mentioned--and not without reason--Lemieux's losses occurred when he was quite young and inexperienced. I think he's improved, just like GGG has from the days when he was winning decisions over people like Ian Gardner with scores such as 78-75, and he's certainly more experienced, He would likely still be out-gunned, but I think his losses get overplayed.

[Pureist]

You don't lose only 5 fights as an amateur if you don't know how to box, he is putting on shows to sell himself, 340 wins as an ameteur doesn't come by chance

[crusader]

I believe that GGG actually lost more than 5 fights despite the popular 345-5 billing, and if you check his record on the strefa amateur boxing site I believe it's consistent with this. Also, to give one example, Chakhkiev won an Olympic gold medal and was an amateur star despite not have good boxing skills relative to other top cruiserweights. Fighters of many styles and attributes have a lot of success in the amateurs.

Now there is no doubt that GGG is the better boxer, but I don't believe that he's a good defensive fighter who simply abandons defense to broaden his appeal. I think he's capable of better defensive showings than he's given lately, but I don't believe that Lemieux would have a particularly hard time finding the target. GGG has taken punches very well so far and clearly has a good chin, but how would he react to being hit often by Lemieux? While I wouldn't be surprised if he were never dropped or seriously hurt, I do think that he could be hit hard enough to make him more weary than he's previously been.

When a fighter is so dominant my interest often turns from who can beat them to who can at least provide challenges that his previous opponents didn't, and that's what gets me excited about Lemeiux-GGG.

[Grand_Cru54]

Lemieux learned a lot in this fight with N'Dam. I have seen most of his fights, but this is the first time i see him patient in the second half of the fight. After the fourth knock down, the fight was out of reach for N'Dam unless he gets a KO. For the first time, Lemieux took his time and did not try to destroy his opponent once he established his lead.

He learned that his power is natural and that he does not need to go for the KO. He learned to be patient and wait for the KO to come naturally. This will help him a lot against GGG. Is he gonna win against GGG, I honestly don't know, but I know that he took a step ahead.

[Ian1973]

Lemieux is not beating golovkin. Golovkin isn't reckless but he has been contemptuous of his opponents lately, he wouldn't be like that against Lemieux.

Lemieux can hit but he's too reckless and his boxing ability too limited.

GGG by KO.

[kidbazooka1]

Hahaha

Lemiuxe got ktfo by Rubio the same Rubio that GGG annihilated.

[Ian1973]

Hahaha

Lemiuxe got ktfo by Rubio the same Rubio that GGG annihilated.

That's a bit naive to be fair. Haseem Rahman once knocked out Lennox Lewis, where does that put Lewis among the ATG heavyweights?

What happened next time Lewis fought Rahman? Or you could use Wladimir Klitschko and Lamon Brewster. Do you really think Wlad now wouldn't beat Corrie Sanders or Ross Purity? He'd destroy them.

Boxers can / do improve. Lemieux would beat Rubio.

[kidbazooka1]

Hahaha

Lemiuxe got ktfo by Rubio the same Rubio that GGG annihilated.

That's a bit naive to be fair. Haseem Rahman once knocked out Lennox Lewis, where does that put Lewis among the ATG heavyweights?

What happened next time Lewis fought Rahman? Or you could use Wladimir Klitschko and Lamon Brewster. Do you really think Wlad now wouldn't beat Corrie Sanders or Ross Purity? He'd destroy them.

Boxers can / do improve. Lemieux would beat Rubio.

Lemieux is as limited as they come Rubio would work him over again and GGG would kill him.

[Kootenay47]

Hahaha

Lemiuxe got ktfo by Rubio the same Rubio that GGG annihilated.

Boxers can / do improve. Lemieux would beat Rubio.

I would like to see Lemieux try to avenge his embarrassing loss to Rubio . It would be a good measuring stick .

Golovkin ko's Lemieux in 3 rounds or less.

[crusader]

Lemieux is as limited as they come Rubio would work him over again and GGG would kill him.

Lemieux was well ahead upon being stopped by Rubio, so it's not as if he were totally out of his depth, and I'm very confident that he'd beat him in a rematch now that's he's older and much more experienced. He seemed to tire significantly against Rubio, but though he still swings for the fences a bit much he paces himself better now and has shown fine stamina into the later rounds of his last two fights, one of which was against a top 10 opponent.

[Cutman Scabbers]

Would be exciting while it lasted, but Lemieux doesn't seem to take a punch well.

[cold187]

Sadly Oscar will Make Alvarez vs Lemieux after the cotto fight
He's not giving away the IBF belt so easy
# business

[Tarkus]

I give Lemieux only a punchers chance. If he somehow survives early rounds with his shoddy chin, he surely will run out of gas mid rounds. Even with NDma he was barely hanging in during the late rounds, no way he is able to cope with Golovkins relentless workrate.

Looking at Oscars fanatical zeal though I dont think he would put Lemieux with Golovkin any time soon.

[JC]

Lemieux is really the only fun fight I can see for GGG at 160lbs.

I give DL about a 15% of winning but it's guaranteed entertainment.

Reminds me a bit of Duddy/Pavlik which was muted a few years back

If it happens they need to make sure he's well paid.

[expe]

I believe that GGG actually lost more than 5 fights despite the popular 345-5 billing, and if you check his record on the strefa amateur boxing site I believe it's consistent with this. Also, to give one example, Chakhkiev won an Olympic gold medal and was an amateur star despite not have good boxing skills relative to other top cruiserweights. Fighters of many styles and attributes have a lot of success in the amateurs.

Now there is no doubt that GGG is the better boxer, but I don't believe that he's a good defensive fighter who simply abandons defense to broaden his appeal. I think he's capable of better defensive showings than he's given lately, but I don't believe that Lemieux would have a particularly hard time finding the target. GGG has taken punches very well so far and clearly has a good chin, but how would he react to being hit often by Lemieux? While I wouldn't be surprised if he were never dropped or seriously hurt, I do think that he could be hit hard enough to make him more weary than he's previously been.

When a fighter is so dominant my interest often turns from who can beat them to who can at least provide challenges that his previous opponents didn't, and that's what gets me excited about Lemeiux-GGG.

They have 8 defeats just from 2000 onwards, with 43 confirmed wins listed, there's no way he went through the juniors unbeaten either, I would guess that there's at least 15 losses on his amateur record in reality.

[Pureist]

You guess, come on

[expe]

You guess, come on

He lost at least 8 times after turning 18, considering there's only 43 wins listed there too, it's likely that there's a couple more defeats missing in that time frame. Once you add in everything before that, because it's incredibly rare for anyone to go through the juniors unbeaten and he must have had a lot of fights to reach the supposed 345-5 record, there will be a few more losses in there too that were never recorded online or outside of the area of Kazakhstan they took place in.

[Pureist]

Well then it's quite possible he had many more wins aswell, I guess

[Boxerbeetle]

Would be a fun fight while it lasted, but it would basically be a re-run of the Canelo-Kirkland fight imo (with GGG playing the role of Canelo, obviously).

[handsofstone]

I had it 115-109,Lemiuex has frightening power and I love how quickly he can unload that left hook but he's pretty crude,he seems a bit in love with his power though and didn't show much regard for defence and seemed to allow N'Dam to outbox him at times,I had Hassan sweeping the last 3 rounds

N'Dam was in a similar position to the Quillin fight where he had success whenever he wasn't getting floored but left himself a mountain to climb

[ikorolev]

GGG has taken punches very well so far and clearly has a good chin, but how would he react to being hit often by Lemieux?

Golovkin will not be hit OFTEN. If Lemieux fights like he usually does, Golovkin's shots will hurt him early.