Heavyweight Journeymen You Like.

Gnome
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Michael Sprott. He still comes to win, as witnessed by his win over Gerber and decent performances against Helenius and Pulev.
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mercman wrote:
palooka wrote:I saw Dave Diamond Jules this morning, he's in decent shape, looking smart and working. He boxed some good men and freely admits he let himself down by not training/running but doesn't bleat about it.
Pleased to hear it but Dave John wasn't the nicest of blokes back in the day, you know. Hopefully, he's different nowadays.
He's always been sound with me coz I was a Donny Dresser and a horrible little bastard myself, I also used to train with him. His brother, Larry is chilled out. Dave's calmed down an awful lot, in fact to the lengths that he lost a door job for giving the miscreants a talking to and not a beating.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:Reggie Gross gets a mention for trying to knock Tyson out.

Conroy Nelson, the man mountain with no chin.

Mike Weaver, the journeyman who won a world title. :TU:
Bit of a bizarre statement that, regarding Weaver.
Apart from being an actual heavyweight champion, he went 12 rounds with Larry Holmes, beat 2 other heavyweight champs, drew with a third HW champ, and fought and sometimes beat a range of top 10 heavyweights.

His career seemed to ebb and flow for sure, and he definitely had a very poor start to it....but it's stretching the term to the extreme calling him a journeyman.
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Post by Rexob »

cfang wrote:Buck Smith
He was a welterweight?
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Gnome wrote:Michael Sprott. He still comes to win, as witnessed by his win over Gerber and decent performances against Helenius and Pulev.

Yes, that was an incredible show of defiance and durability shown against Anthony Joshua.
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palooka wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:There was that boxer who knocked out Kirkland Laing, Buck Smith, wasnt he a ringer?
He weren't an heavyweight though.
Good point :TU:
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Post by cfang »

mimmy123 wrote:
palooka wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:There was that boxer who knocked out Kirkland Laing, Buck Smith, wasnt he a ringer?
He weren't an heavyweight though.
Good point :TU:
Lol It is a good point. I mentioned him too. Remember when he beat Laing. That guy could punch.
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kaiserbill wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Reggie Gross gets a mention for trying to knock Tyson out.

Conroy Nelson, the man mountain with no chin.

Mike Weaver, the journeyman who won a world title. :TU:
Bit of a bizarre statement that, regarding Weaver.
Apart from being an actual heavyweight champion, he went 12 rounds with Larry Holmes, beat 2 other heavyweight champs, drew with a third HW champ, and fought and sometimes beat a range of top 10 heavyweights.

His career seemed to ebb and flow for sure, and he definitely had a very poor start to it....but it's stretching the term to the extreme calling him a journeyman.
I wasn't having a go at Weaver, he's had a tremendous heart and was a very good fighter. Early in his career, he lost to most of the good fighters he got in the ring with.
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Does Tex Cobb count?
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palooka wrote:Does Tex Cobb count?
If you want him to. :TU:
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:Does Tex Cobb count?
If you want him to. :TU:
:TU: cheers, he was a fun fighter and a clever, funny man and he could punch, take a punch and would get in and give it a go against anyone.
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Larry is about 5 foot 8 with dreadlocks, Dave's 6 foot 2. He has mellowed an awful lot - the 80's was a peculiar time, very violent young working class culture, I was just thinking earlier that I prefer being in my 40's than in my teens and 20's - I'd not like to do all that again.
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palooka wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:Does Tex Cobb count?
If you want him to. :TU:
:TU: cheers, he was a fun fighter and a clever, funny man and he could punch, take a punch and would get in and give it a go against anyone.

He would have held a title in this era.
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Post by Broomhall »

I always liked Bunny Johnson who was an almost world class, but too small Brit heavyweight of the 70s, cruiserweight came too late for him, but he could give most heavyweights a decent nights work.
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Chuck Wepner was a classic journeyman.
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Broomhall wrote:I always liked Bunny Johnson who was an almost world class, but too small Brit heavyweight of the 70s, cruiserweight came too late for him, but he could give most heavyweights a decent nights work.
I forgot about Bunny he gave me a signed photo of himself in the early 80's when he was in Sydney Australia I was about 12 year's old many year's ago I remember he was eating strawberry ice cream and he gave me some...........I know that nothing to do with journeymen boxer's it just funny
what you remember sometime's about the past..... I haven't seen that photo for year's he wrote to Clive with piece's of love and he drew a picture of a Bunny instead of his signiture :lol:
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Frankie Swindell. 'Moonface', as Holdsworth used to call him. A good, solid customer.
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Oldtime version would be Roughhouse Fischer. Looked like he could kill you with a stare. Had a Christmas tree lot in Dayton ("Tom's Christmas Trees") and had a chainsaw accident where he lost a couple of toes not too long after losing to Michael Dokes. Kept fighting top guys for years afterwards so he gets points for toughness as well as durability.
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Sinan Samil Sam. I always liked him, wasn't the best boxer, but he was tough and he got stuck in. I was delighted for him when he finally won the European Title.
:D
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Post by Tuan_Jim »

The parameters for labelling someone a 'journeyman' here seem staggeringly broad.

We've had several mentions of world class fighters, who had top 10 rankings and even world title challenges, demoted to journeyman rank. Sinan Samil Sam? I'm no fan but the fellow retired with 4 losses, all in good company, and seldom ventured outside Germany. How is he a journeyman? It's hardly the record of a fearless explorer, hauling with him a gymbag, a tattered passport and two score losses, ala the coffin nail-hard 'Scrap Iron' Johnson.
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Tuan_Jim wrote:The parameters for labelling someone a 'journeyman' here seem staggeringly broad.

We've had several mentions of world class fighters, who had top 10 rankings and even world title challenges, demoted to journeyman rank. Sinan Samil Sam? I'm no fan but the fellow retired with 4 losses, all in good company, and seldom ventured outside Germany. How is he a journeyman? It's hardly the record of a fearless explorer, hauling with him a gymbag, a tattered passport and two score losses, ala the coffin nail-hard 'Scrap Iron' Johnson.
It's my thread, so anything goes. Just name heavyweight journeymen you like.
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I like them all: Steve Perry, Neal Schon, Ross Valory, Jonathan Cain
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Cutman Scabbers wrote:I like them all: Steve Perry, Neal Schon, Ross Valory, Jonathan Cain
I'll add Eric Clapton to that list. A true heavyweight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_(album)
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sweetsci wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:I like them all: Steve Perry, Neal Schon, Ross Valory, Jonathan Cain
I'll add Eric Clapton to that list. A true heavyweight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_(album)
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Post by funso banjo baby »

in recent years some of the classiest/cagey were,

fernely feliz
zach page
zuri lawrence


in australia, colin wilson and big bob morovitz always made you work (for 2 decades!!!).
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