IF GGG moved down to meet floyd ...
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Which is JMW, he fought canelo at JMW amongst others, so logic would tell you that floyd would fight at JMW and GGG would come down to that weight, if you look at the poll it actually says 154
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i think you are not fair to floyd. maidana makesChepppaaa wrote:floyd had a draw with maidana I
floyd had a second fight with maidana where he did nothing but excessive holding and should have had a DQ loss
floyd had a complicated fight with manny and won a close fight
so floyd has been boxing small guys like manny or technicly limited guys like maidana and was close to losing, even having a draw
and now you guys realy think he can beat a guy, who is know to KO middleweights sometimes even with 1 hand, with a 91 % KO %,
a man in his prime, who can cut the ring and has on top of his punching power, good all around skills.
floyd gets battered or holds all day and his bought ref does not do anything about it, cause today it seems excessive holding is okay, although
the rules say otherwise.
it difficult for everybody, because he is so weird
at times and while i thought the manny fight was
close, floyd clearly managed to control how the
fight turned out to be.
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Butterbean
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Re: IF GGG moved down to meet floyd ...
koolkc107 wrote:No, a Khan fight does better than a GGG fight.tiny_acres wrote:yes you are right. GGG would sell better than Berto, Mayfield or KhanPureist wrote:Definately sell better than the other 2 options he put forward, that is for sure
So does a Cotto or Canelo fight.
Lmao. Just no ! Of course ggg vs floyd would do better than anything else. There are people outside the us you know ?
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i am very fair with floyd. i alaways say exactly when he was the clear winner and when not. some judges and fans had the alvarez or de la hoya fight against floyd close, i say it wasnt. floyd easily won both fights.man wrote:i think you are not fair to floyd. maidana makesChepppaaa wrote:floyd had a draw with maidana I
floyd had a second fight with maidana where he did nothing but excessive holding and should have had a DQ loss
floyd had a complicated fight with manny and won a close fight
so floyd has been boxing small guys like manny or technicly limited guys like maidana and was close to losing, even having a draw
and now you guys realy think he can beat a guy, who is know to KO middleweights sometimes even with 1 hand, with a 91 % KO %,
a man in his prime, who can cut the ring and has on top of his punching power, good all around skills.
floyd gets battered or holds all day and his bought ref does not do anything about it, cause today it seems excessive holding is okay, although
the rules say otherwise.
it difficult for everybody, because he is so weird
at times and while i thought the manny fight was
close, floyd clearly managed to control how the
fight turned out to be.
but when we talk about the maidana and pacquiao fight, when both hurt or wobbled floyd and won a lot of rounds, than its a different story.
maidana was roughing floyd up a lot in the first fight and to me i scored it a draw, like a lot of people did, some even had maidana as the winner.
the second fight was an absolut joke, floyd did excessive hoolding, illegal, the ref never let maidana fight inside, when inside boxing is part of boxing, just like boxing from outside. simply a dq loss.
and well the pacquiao fight was boring, but like i said in the post before, floyd won it, close, but he won it in a very running boring way. i think thats fair what i am saying.
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Easy work for Floyd boxing his ears off, they're basing their decision on GGG winning vs slow bums with very little defense. After Mayweather beats him at 154 then you'd hear nothing but a bunch of excuses of how Floyd drained him and how he lost muscle and the weight loss weakened him.man wrote:... i think that would be a real easy night for floyd.
if manny with all his speed couldn't find him, how
should a drained middle weight?
straight forward, standard arsenal fighter with a
big punch should be very easy to read. i still do not
think such fights and especially this one should be
made, but still ...
who do you have?
GGG has faced fighters that has all types of holes, Mayweather doesn't have many (if any at all) so all I see is GGG trying to cut off the ring but having to get set to throw his powershots but getting caught flat footed while loading up and Floyd dropping 1-2 combo potshots with the occasional jab and check left hook.
Easy UD for Floyd against the most overly praised fighter in the sport.
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keithmoonhangover
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I think Floyds chin is on the slide. GGG put him on the floor at least once,
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How so? He has been hit flush by Manny, Maidana and Mosley (all seriously hard punchers) and neither has managed to knock him off his feet, he recovered and schooled all of them.keithmoonhangover wrote:I think Floyds chin is on the slide. GGG put him on the floor at least once,
If he was getting knocked off his feet or out then I'd readily agree with you but that isn't the case.
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keithmoonhangover
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He looked hurt IMO at one stage against Pacman. GGG is a different proposition altogether.KBB wrote:How so? He has been hit flush by Manny, Maidana and Mosley (all seriously hard punchers) and neither has managed to knock him off his feet, he recovered and schooled all of them.keithmoonhangover wrote:I think Floyds chin is on the slide. GGG put him on the floor at least once,
If he was getting knocked off his feet or out then I'd readily agree with you but that isn't the case.
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The funny thing is there is a line of fighters to fight Floyd all trying to get to the front but in GGGs line they are all trying to get to the back of the line, that speaks volumes
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tiny_acres
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The difference is With GGG you won;t make the bank that you do with Floyd.Pureist wrote:The funny thing is there is a line of fighters to fight Floyd all trying to get to the front but in GGGs line they are all trying to get to the back of the line, that speaks volumes
If you were guaranteed to make a few million against GGG he would have a line of fighters willing to face him.
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ClivePatrickLyons
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If the middleweight champ has to move down in weight to fight TBE then it shouldn't happen boxing is about your fighting weight not anybody else's
if TBE wants it.............. be a man like past LEGEND'S AND TAKE HIS MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE

if TBE wants it.............. be a man like past LEGEND'S AND TAKE HIS MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE
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The contradictory in this post is on a different level.. the irony.ClivePatrickLyons wrote:If the middleweight champ has to move down in weight to fight TBE then it shouldn't happen boxing is about your fighting weight not anybody else's
if TBE wants it.............. be a man like past LEGEND'S AND TAKE HIS MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE![]()
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Also the chances of being stopped by floyd is minimal, the chances of being stopped by GGG are huge, don't think Berto or mayfield would be paid too well if floyd fights either, I think it would be his lowest PPV numbers ever
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jamesmcdonnell
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This is what people seem to struggle with - nobody is getting a huge payday against GGG, as he himself isn't getting huge paydays, - plus there's also a potential reward of a massive ass whupping to boot - GGG isn't the type to carry an opponent, or eke out a comfortable points win, he goes in there to smash his opponents to pieces.tiny_acres wrote:The difference is With GGG you won;t make the bank that you do with Floyd.Pureist wrote:The funny thing is there is a line of fighters to fight Floyd all trying to get to the front but in GGGs line they are all trying to get to the back of the line, that speaks volumes
If you were guaranteed to make a few million against GGG he would have a line of fighters willing to face him.
Unfortunately in the modern era, fighters appear terrified of taking risks - Christ, imagine the series of fights we had between Hearns, Leonard, Duran and Hagler happening now - not a chance in hell. Leonard v Duran 1 + 2 would never have happened, he would have waited around until Duran was well past it and we would have been treated to Leonard v Duran 3 as the first fight.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: This is what people seem to struggle with - nobody is getting a huge payday against GGG, as he himself isn't getting huge paydays, - plus there's also a potential reward of a massive ass whupping to boot - GGG isn't the type to carry an opponent, or eke out a comfortable points win, he goes in there to smash his opponents to pieces.
Unfortunately in the modern era, fighters appear terrified of taking risks - Christ, imagine the series of fights we had between Hearns, Leonard, Duran and Hagler happening now - not a chance in hell. Leonard v Duran 1 + 2 would never have happened, he would have waited around until Duran was well past it and we would have been treated to Leonard v Duran 3 as the first fight.
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So, he looked more hurt vs Mosley twice and still he beat him easily. I've seen a ton of fighters hurt, knocked down several times and still there was no question about their chins.keithmoonhangover wrote:He looked hurt IMO at one stage against Pacman. GGG is a different proposition altogether.
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Who do you think hits harder, Mosley, maidana, pacquaio or GGG, who has the best record of finishing fighters off when rocked, I don't think the fight would ever eventuate but floyd would have to be extremely careful if it did, he wouldn't get a second chance to have his chin tested by GGGKBB wrote:So, he looked more hurt vs Mosley twice and still he beat him easily. I've seen a ton of fighters hurt, knocked down several times and still there was no question about their chins.keithmoonhangover wrote:He looked hurt IMO at one stage against Pacman. GGG is a different proposition altogether.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: IF GGG moved down to meet floyd ...
He is a good finisher, but he's been finishing off B level fighters, Mayweather is a different proposition entirely.Pureist wrote:Who do you think hits harder, Mosley, maidana, pacquaio or GGG, who has the best record of finishing fighters off when rocked, I don't think the fight would ever eventuate but floyd would have to be extremely careful if it did, he wouldn't get a second chance to have his chin tested by GGGKBB wrote:So, he looked more hurt vs Mosley twice and still he beat him easily. I've seen a ton of fighters hurt, knocked down several times and still there was no question about their chins.keithmoonhangover wrote:He looked hurt IMO at one stage against Pacman. GGG is a different proposition altogether.
What is more in question - is whether GGG would ever get to land anything significant, that's the big problem everyone faces.
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True, remember the 2nd maidana fight, maidana tagged floyd with a beautiful right just before the round ended, it was very lucky for floyd that the bell went because that could well have been the difference between a short night, floyd walked 3 steps back to the corner with straight legs, GGG is a much better boxer than maidana, hits harder than maidana, cuts the ring off better than maidana and finishes better than maidana, the fact that he has done this against B level fighters is only due to A level fighters understanding the level of danger he would present to them, A level fighters are not stupid, they know how dangerous he is, who would you pick to fight, GGG or cotto, for me the answer is quite easy http://youtu.be/_MaY09p-qWI
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FloydtheDuck
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24 votes a piece ? 50/50 fight
Man there's some serious Floyd nuthuggers in here
In the slim chance this fight ever gets made. I promise to give anyone wanting Floyd even odds
I don't think it's even 50/50 sees the final bell -
That's not a knock on Floyd as I see him beating any other fights under 160. But GGG is on another level
Man there's some serious Floyd nuthuggers in here
In the slim chance this fight ever gets made. I promise to give anyone wanting Floyd even odds
I don't think it's even 50/50 sees the final bell -
That's not a knock on Floyd as I see him beating any other fights under 160. But GGG is on another level
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According to you he wouldn't get a chance, your boy Manny couldn't do it, Cotto, Maidana, Mosley, you name them and GGG has been beating B level fighters and hasn't proven that he's any better than him.Pureist wrote:Who do you think hits harder, Mosley, maidana, pacquaio or GGG, who has the best record of finishing fighters off when rocked, I don't think the fight would ever eventuate but floyd would have to be extremely careful if it did, he wouldn't get a second chance to have his chin tested by GGG
Sure I'm certain that you'd love no more than for your GGG to get lucky enough to do that to him but just because it's your fantasy it doesn't mean it will come true.
Keep dreaming though, and know that's all you have.
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As I always say, I don't hate floyd, the title of the thread is what I'm responding to, the way you go on is ridiculous, anyone would think floyds your love child, if all the A level are avoiding him like the plague there is a reason for it, and yes I think it is a dream fight because if it took 6 years for floyd pacquaio to be made then this fight would be much much longer
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tiny_acres
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It is ok to admit you hate Floyd.He is not a very likable guy.Pureist wrote:As I always say, I don't hate floyd, the title of the thread is what I'm responding to, the way you go on is ridiculous, anyone would think floyds your love child, if all the A level are avoiding him like the plague there is a reason for it, and yes I think it is a dream fight because if it took 6 years for floyd pacquaio to be made then this fight would be much much longer
Just stop lying about it.Everyone will respect your opinion more if you are honest about it.
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Talking of fantasyKBB wrote:According to you he wouldn't get a chance, your boy Manny couldn't do it, Cotto, Maidana, Mosley, you name them and GGG has been beating B level fighters and hasn't proven that he's any better than him.Pureist wrote:Who do you think hits harder, Mosley, maidana, pacquaio or GGG, who has the best record of finishing fighters off when rocked, I don't think the fight would ever eventuate but floyd would have to be extremely careful if it did, he wouldn't get a second chance to have his chin tested by GGG
Sure I'm certain that you'd love no more than for your GGG to get lucky enough to do that to him but just because it's your fantasy it doesn't mean it will come true.
Keep dreaming though, and know that's all you have.
Hey now you guys can marry each other in the land of the free when are you going to propose to Floyd , just think you can spend your days really licking his ass rather than just verbally.
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Kbb does take it to a very weird level