poor Gennady, his boxing situation is pretty messed up

[apollo creed]

As I said Heiland or Eubank jr would be decent opponents for a stay busy fight.

Lara could be added too but the fight should be @ c/w to be more legit. GGG would not get the credit he deserves if he beats Lara @ 160 lbs.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

As I said Heiland or Eubank jr would be decent opponents for a stay busy fight.

Lara could be added too but the fight should be @ c/w to be more legit. GGG would not get the credit he deserves if he beats Lara @ 160 lbs.

Yes he would. I would give him full credit for beating Lara at 160.

[crusader]

Until his promoter K2 decides to pay his opponents a decent purse.GGG will continue to fight bums.
Not GGG's fault.It is his promoers

How much have they been offering? How far is the amount falling short of expectations? Got any numbers or are you guessing?

No need to guess a quick Google search will show you.
in GGG's last fight GGG made 1.5 million
Willie monroe made 100 thousand

Aside from Monroe:

Geale made $600k
Rubio made $450k
Macklin made $300k
Stevens made $290k
Rosado made $150-200k

[apollo creed]

Aside from Monroe:

Martin Murray ??
Geale made $600k
Rubio made $450k
Macklin made $300k
Stevens made $290k
Rosado made $150-200k

I wonder what was the biggest fight purse/s that these guys received during their careers?

[bogan whisperer]

Aside from Monroe:

Martin Murray ??
Geale made $600k
Rubio made $450k
Macklin made $300k
Stevens made $290k
Rosado made $150-200k

I wonder what was the biggest fight purse/s that these guys received during their careers?

Geale made somewhere in the order of $2million when he beat Mundine in their rematch.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Aside from Monroe:

Martin Murray ??
Geale made $600k
Rubio made $450k
Macklin made $300k
Stevens made $290k
Rosado made $150-200k

I wonder what was the biggest fight purse/s that these guys received during their careers?

Geale made somewhere in the order of $2million when he beat Mundine in their rematch.

After expenses, management fees, and tax, those aren't big fees. Take away less than half of those figures.

How do you know this figures, are they public domain?

[jamesmcdonnell]

As I said Heiland or Eubank jr would be decent opponents for a stay busy fight.

Lara could be added too but the fight should be @ c/w to be more legit. GGG would not get the credit he deserves if he beats Lara @ 160 lbs.

Painful evening for Eubank Jr - he'd get ripped to pieces.

[apollo creed]

As I said Heiland or Eubank jr would be decent opponents for a stay busy fight.

Lara could be added too but the fight should be @ c/w to be more legit. GGG would not get the credit he deserves if he beats Lara @ 160 lbs.

Painful evening for Eubank Jr - he'd get ripped to pieces.

Same thing would probably happen to Cotto/Canelo, Quillin, Lee and Lemieux but this is not the point. The point is GGG has to find the best available opponent to stay busy and imo Eubank Jr, Heiland and maybe Lara are decent.

[dempseyfire]

I can't believe that nobody notable don't want to fight him, except midget Bradley and runner Lara, who blatantly knows that his master won't ever allow him to fight GGG on HBO.
Everybody waits to see GGG getting old overnight to fight him.

Maybe Heiland or Eubank Jr could be decent opponents for a stay busy fight.

what do you think ?

bradley & lara are 2 quality names. if ggg fought both and won, it boost his fame imense.

Beating a shopworn junior welter and a junior middleweight 'runner' will give Golovkin fame? On what planet?

I wish you were trolling, but you are being serious, which is completely sad.
Bradley: Shopworn junior welterweight
Lara: junior middleweight runner
Muhammad Ali: light heavyweight
Mayweather: Super Featherweight coward
Pacquiao: One-handed light flyweight
De La Hoya: Spoiled transexual
George Foreman: Limited slugger
Mike Tyson: Midget who melts down if you stand up to him.

In other words, you're being an idiot, and your attempt at the excuse game is invalid.[/quote]

I'm being called an 'idiot' because I don't think Golovkin beating Lara, who only hardcore boxing fans give a s^&* about, and Bradley, whose prime was at 140 and who has already taken a career's worth of punishment, would garnish him to "stardom." OK, have fun in fantasyville.

[jamesmcdonnell]

As I said Heiland or Eubank jr would be decent opponents for a stay busy fight.

Lara could be added too but the fight should be @ c/w to be more legit. GGG would not get the credit he deserves if he beats Lara @ 160 lbs.

Painful evening for Eubank Jr - he'd get ripped to pieces.

Same thing would probably happen to Cotto/Canelo, Quillin, Lee and Lemieux but this is not the point. The point is GGG has to find the best available opponent to stay busy and imo Eubank Jr, Heiland and maybe Lara are decent.

Yes, true, he is in an unenviable position, and I guess the best thing he can do, is keep knocking them out, and calling people out, until the public starts to back him, and the interest in a big fight means he becomes a draw.

[Chepppaaa]

I can't believe that nobody notable don't want to fight him, except midget Bradley and runner Lara, who blatantly knows that his master won't ever allow him to fight GGG on HBO.
Everybody waits to see GGG getting old overnight to fight him.

Maybe Heiland or Eubank Jr could be decent opponents for a stay busy fight.

what do you think ?

bradley & lara are 2 quality names. if ggg fought both and won, it boost his fame imense.

Lara maybe, he has a good resume and he's close to GGG's weight but even if GGG would KTFO Lara @ 160, it won't add nothing to his popularity/marketability. People would say that he beat a bloated up jr MW. Maybe if GGG would fight Lara @ c/w and beat him then his win would be considered a legit one.

fu&/(k popularity. quality > popularity

[apollo creed]

Lara is quality, no doubt but some people would probably say: 'GGG ducked Ward and Kovalev to fight a super welterweight'.

[apollo creed]

sadly, GGG will be 40 y/o when the 'big names' would take him in consideration as a plausible opponent.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Unless he is such a draw that he can guarantee a big payday.

It's risk reward , at the moment risk is extremely high, reward is not, and therefore the only guys willing to take the risk, are those with little chance, and therefore little to lose.

[tiny_acres]

Unless he is such a draw that he can guarantee a big payday.

It's risk reward , at the moment risk is extremely high, reward is not, and therefore the only guys willing to take the risk, are those with little chance, and therefore little to lose.

Well said.
I just do not see anyone with any chance taking this fight with the amount of money GGG's
fights generate

[jamesmcdonnell]

Unless he is such a draw that he can guarantee a big payday.

It's risk reward , at the moment risk is extremely high, reward is not, and therefore the only guys willing to take the risk, are those with little chance, and therefore little to lose.

Well said.
I just do not see anyone with any chance taking this fight with the amount of money GGG's
fights generate

That can and hopefully will change if he stays busy.

[tiny_acres]

Unless he is such a draw that he can guarantee a big payday.

It's risk reward , at the moment risk is extremely high, reward is not, and therefore the only guys willing to take the risk, are those with little chance, and therefore little to lose.

Well said.
I just do not see anyone with any chance taking this fight with the amount of money GGG's
fights generate

That can and hopefully will change if he stays busy.

I hope you are right.He deserves a big money fight and his fans deserve to see it.

[Baby Face Finster]

If anyone at middleweight wants to make money or become a world champion they will have to man up and fight Triple G. The big money and glory will only come from going through Triple G or they have to vacate the division (ala Peter Quitting) and attempt to win a title there. No middleweight is going to make serious money without fighting and beating Triple G.

I can only imagine what Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran are thinking about this current crop of chicken shit middleweights. The great middleweights of boxing must all be rolling in their graves at the cowardice on display.

[tiny_acres]

If anyone at middleweight wants to make money or become a world champion they will have to man up and fight Triple G. The big money and glory will only come from going through Triple G or they have to vacate the division (ala Peter Quitting) and attempt to win a title there. No middleweight is going to make serious money without fighting and beating Triple G.

I can only imagine what Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran are thinking about this current crop of chicken shit middleweights. The great middleweights of boxing must all be rolling in their graves at the cowardice on display.

The risk vs reward argument has been going on for decades.
This is nothing new.I am considerably older than most on here and I remember reading this comment.
Hearing this comment on the radio and tv.
It is nothing new and will continue for ever.

[apollo creed]

We all understand that GGG is a highly risky fighter who brings less money but the WBC champion has to fight him @ 160 lbs since he's the middleweight champion. GGG's handlers have to imperatively exercise his No. 1 mandatory challanenger position to square off with Cotto/Canelo or whoever will have that title.

btw, did GGG step aside not to fight Cotto and what were the money and the demands ? Anybody knows more ?

[ikorolev]

btw, did GGG step aside not to fight Cotto and what were the money and the demands ? Anybody knows more ?

I don't think any agreement on that has been reached. I suspect Cotto and Canelo will blackmail and/or bribe WBC so that they are allowed to fight for the MW title without paying anything to GGG and just agreeing to fight him next. ... and will later ignore their obligations to fight him.

[jamesmcdonnell]

We all understand that GGG is a highly risky fighter who brings less money but the WBC champion has to fight him @ 160 lbs since he's the middleweight champion. GGG's handlers have to imperatively exercise his No. 1 mandatory challanenger position to square off with Cotto/Canelo or whoever will have that title.

btw, did GGG step aside not to fight Cotto and what were the money and the demands ? Anybody knows more ?

Trouble is, there's so many ways for people to avoid unification fights, mainly because the sanctioning bodies themselves don't like them.

[KBB]

I can't believe that nobody notable don't want to fight him, except midget Bradley and runner Lara, who blatantly knows that his master won't ever allow him to fight GGG on HBO.
Everybody waits to see GGG getting old overnight to fight him.

Maybe Heiland or Eubank Jr could be decent opponents for a stay busy fight.

what do you think ?

Ward still wants him, Dirrell called him out. All he has to do is move up and he will get fighters who will face him. The only thing messed up is that he wants to move down to try and feast on smaller fighters rather than move up and face bigger fighters.

[Purse Bid Shakedown]

I can't believe that nobody notable don't want to fight him, except midget Bradley and runner Lara, who blatantly knows that his master won't ever allow him to fight GGG on HBO.
Everybody waits to see GGG getting old overnight to fight him.

Maybe Heiland or Eubank Jr could be decent opponents for a stay busy fight.

what do you think ?

Ward still wants him, Dirrell called him out. All he has to do is move up and he will get fighters who will face him. The only thing messed up is that he wants to move down to try and feast on smaller fighters rather than move up and face bigger fighters.

Moving down is harder than going up, right? Besides he's happy to move up for a ppv fight, but the only 2 money guys above 160, Froch and Chavez, wanted nothing to do with him. Also questionable how bad Ward wants him, given he's the one with bigger purse demands yet never made an offer, not even now with his big money promoter. And apparently when HBO asked them if ready to fight, GGG said yes, Ward said no

[apollo creed]

btw, did GGG step aside not to fight Cotto and what were the money and the demands ? Anybody knows more ?

I don't think any agreement on that has been reached. I suspect Cotto and Canelo will blackmail and/or bribe WBC so that they are allowed to fight for the MW title without paying anything to GGG and just agreeing to fight him next. ... and will later ignore their obligations to fight him.

yeah, probably WBC will find a way to screw GGG's mandatory status. Probably they will make the winner of Cotto-Canelo (c/w kings) fight the MW super-champion and give GGG the regular title.