British Top 30 P4P July 2015

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Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

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freddydoesdallas wrote:You don't move andy lee up for beating better fighters than bjs because he's been behind in fights.
Wrong.
freddydoesdallas wrote:You don't move bjs up because he struggled with eubank jnr and ryder.
Wrong.
freddydoesdallas wrote:You say that Lee will move up 'a few places' if he beats bjs.
Right.
freddydoesdallas wrote:You do not make sense
Wrong.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

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Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:I honestly don't know why he's on the list. Why is he?
It's been done to death.
Have you considered renaming your lists to cover 'British and Irish' Top 30 P4P? That may stop the same question being asked every month...
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Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

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Horse wrote: wrong.
All your words from this thread. Read through again
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Boxerbeetle wrote:Have you considered renaming your lists to cover 'British and Irish' Top 30 P4P? That may stop the same question being asked every month...
No, I won't be doing that.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

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freddydoesdallas wrote:All your words from this thread. Read through again
You are wrong.
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Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:I honestly don't know why he's on the list. Why is he?
It's been done to death.
I just want to know, I'm not having a go at you. I genuinely don't know the reason. Is it because he was born in England?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:I just want to know, I'm not having a go at you. I genuinely don't know the reason. Is it because he was born in England?
I can't do it any more.
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Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:I just want to know, I'm not having a go at you. I genuinely don't know the reason. Is it because he was born in England?
I can't do it any more.
What? PM me the answer if you want. THIS IS NOT A WIND UP.
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Horse wrote:You are wrong.
digzee wrote:Think you should swap Burns with BJS, Ricky has achieved a lot in his career but look at the last 18 months BJS has had some great results whereas Ricky has fallen away, Surely the list is about who is the best now.
Horse wrote:Saunders has struggled with Eubank Jr and Ryder in recent fights. Saunders has also only had two fights in the last 18 months.
Good list although id probably put Andy Lee higher as hes world champion. So probably groves 10 lee 9 and selby 8.
Horse wrote: Lee struggled to beat Horta by split decision 15 months ago and he's been behind in every fight since.
If he beats Saunders in September then I'll raise him up a few places.
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freddydoesdallas wrote:
Horse wrote:You are wrong.
digzee wrote:Think you should swap Burns with BJS, Ricky has achieved a lot in his career but look at the last 18 months BJS has had some great results whereas Ricky has fallen away, Surely the list is about who is the best now.
Horse wrote:Saunders has struggled with Eubank Jr and Ryder in recent fights. Saunders has also only had two fights in the last 18 months.
Good list although id probably put Andy Lee higher as hes world champion. So probably groves 10 lee 9 and selby 8.
Horse wrote: Lee struggled to beat Horta by split decision 15 months ago and he's been behind in every fight since.
If he beats Saunders in September then I'll raise him up a few places.
:TU:
You are wrong.
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Horse wrote:You are wrong.
Why does a boxer being behind have anything to do with their ranking?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:Why does a boxer being behind have anything to do with their ranking?
Why wouldn't it?
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Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Why does a boxer being behind have anything to do with their ranking?
Why wouldn't it?
I asked you first.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:I asked you first.
Why wouldn't their performance in a fight effect the ranking of a fighter?
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Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:I asked you first.
Why wouldn't their performance in a fight effect the ranking of a fighter?
I asked you first?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:I asked you first?
It does effect it.
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I hate to admit it, but with Froch being inactive for thirteen months and with no fight scheduled yet, he should drop a few places imo.
Though it is hard to say who should replace him, Degale, Brook, Khan and Frampton are all solid candidates, but I can understand your reluctance to move any of them to top spot by default.
Also,
Horse wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Have you considered renaming your lists to cover 'British and Irish' Top 30 P4P? That may stop the same question being asked every month...
No, I won't be doing that.
It's a reasonable suggestion, Horse, you should consider it.
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keirw wrote:I hate to admit it, but with Froch being inactive for thirteen months and with no fight scheduled yet, he should drop a few places imo.
Though it is hard to say who should replace him, Degale, Brook, Khan and Frampton are all solid candidates, but I can understand your reluctance to move any of them to top spot by default.
Brook would replace him because he is No. 2.
keirw wrote:It's a reasonable suggestion, Horse, you should consider it.
No.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

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Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:I asked you first?
It does effect it.
Why?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:Why?
Are you trolling me or just being an idiot?
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Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Why?
Are you trolling me or just being an idiot?
Neither. I just want to know why? As an example, I've never read or heard anywhere that Sugar Ray Leonard's victory in the first Hearns fight was lessened by the fact that he was behind on points.
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Horse wrote:
keirw wrote:It's a reasonable suggestion, Horse, you should consider it.
No.
How eloquent
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keithmoonhangover wrote:Neither. I just want to know why? As an example, I've never read or heard anywhere that Sugar Ray Leonard's victory in the first Hearns fight was lessened by the fact that he was behind on points.
So beating someone easily is not more impressive than struggling to get the win?

I can't be bothered with this.
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Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Neither. I just want to know why? As an example, I've never read or heard anywhere that Sugar Ray Leonard's victory in the first Hearns fight was lessened by the fact that he was behind on points.
So beating someone easily is not more impressive than struggling to get the win?

I can't be bothered with this.
It's a marathon not a sprint, the winner is the guy with his hand raised at the end. How he does it doesn't matter, he still got the win. Proof of that, is that champions don't lose their titles if they don't win every round.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

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Horse wrote:
milpool wrote:Chisora goes up a spot?
Yes.
OK, why?
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