Peter Fury Article

[keithmoonhangover]

From Fight News

So it’s on – Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko, for the heavyweight championship of the world. It’s nice to be so far out from the fight, with all the politics and business side of it behind us, and know exactly where we stand. We’re absolutely delighted. The business side of making fights like this is the worst part of boxing, so it’s great to get it all out of the way and put it to the back of our minds; both camps know what they’ve got to do and they can just concentrate now on the boxing side of it.

As for Tyson, he’s totally motivated for this fight. No surprises there. This is his fourth week in, his weight is coming off nicely and we’re very happy with him. I just can’t wait for it to come round now. It’s a massive occasion and it makes us all determined to go that extra mile.

Some have asked me if there’s a danger of Tyson overtraining for this fight – starting too early, peaking too soon. Nonsense. We’re very professional at what we do, otherwise we wouldn’t be here; we wouldn’t be in the position we’re in. Only amateurs overtrain and people who don’t know what they’re doing.

I liaise with the best strength and conditioners around the world. We’ve got the best knowledge and it’s all science-based. We know when to push, when not to push and the type of body fat he needs to have at each stage of the preparation. It’s very, very complex, but it’s your job to know all of that. That’s why you’re a trainer and manager looking after a fighter. You’ve got to do everything – food, conditioning, boxing and so on. It’s a round-the-clock job. If you don’t know what you’re doing, you shouldn’t be doing it. There’s a lot of people doing it that don’t know what they’re doing and that’s why they fail.

In my opinion, this is 100% the best time to have the fight. Let’s look at reality here: Tyson is never going to get beaten up by a smaller guy. He’s too big, and now he’s using his boxing like he should be using them and he’s almost playing with smaller opponents. It’s too easy for him.

The only people out there who could give Tyson a fight – a genuine fight – are Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder. Apart from those two, nobody else can. He’d play with all the other heavyweights. That’s not because he’s supremely talented, it’s simply because they’re either too inexperienced and not ready for him or he’s just too big.

There’s nobody else in the division, aside from Klitschko and Wilder, who can even test Tyson at this stage. Fights against Klitschko and Wilder, though, are proper 50/50 fights. They can go either way. These are the fights we get our teeth into. We can keep beating six-foot-two heavyweights until the cows come home, but what’s the point?

Wilder is 34-0, so has officially had more fights than Tyson, but I only see him as having had two proper fights. The first was against Bermane Stiverne and the second was against Eric Molina, which was a fight that ended up being a struggle for him. Those are the only two times he’s faced decent heavyweights who gave him a fight.

Wilder is improving all the time and he’ll get better with the type of fights he’s now having. He wasn’t really prepared for a world title shot when he faced Stiverne, even though he won. Stiverne was just the right opponent at the right time. He was also very poor that night.

Wilder, though, isn’t what you’d call ‘world championship ready’. He’s not good enough or seasoned enough yet to hold that title and look at the rest of the division and think, I’ve got the beating of all of you. There are plenty of fighters out there who could trouble him at this stage.

But, with each fight, he keeps getting better and he learns more and more. He can box, he’s athletic and he’s a talented kid. In many ways, Wilder has been a victim of his own punch power – he’s been winning fights and creating a long, unbeaten run, but he’s learnt absolutely nothing in the process.

Tyson, on the other hand, has learnt plenty along the way – he’s had tough fights, easy fights, he’s faced big guys, small guys and he’s dragged himself off the floor to win. He’s more than ready to take the world heavyweight title from Wladimir Klitschko on October 24.

I'm glad he's so confident of Tyson, but he's wrong about all the other boxers bar Klit and Wilder having no chance. Povetkin would eat Fury alive,

[rm1]

he also contradicts himself saying only Wilder and Klitschko have a chance against Fury then saying loads have a chance against Wilder. Peter Fury is a decent bloke but he is not a proven elite trainer nor is he as smart as he thinks he is. I think Fury will do well against Klitschko but lets not over rate peter as a trainer yet.

[whiskey]

I think there is a significant difference when Peter is around. His absence for the Cunningham fight almost turned into a disaster for Tyson on the night.

He's a safe pair of hands and there is obviously some respect there. His own son won a world amateur medal did he not? that's not to be sniffed at either.

[mickey1975]

I think there is a significant difference when Peter is around. His absence for the Cunningham fight almost turned into a disaster for Tyson on the night.

He's a safe pair of hands and there is obviously some respect there. His own son won a world amateur medal did he not? that's not to be sniffed at either.

Tyson won't listen to anyone other than Peter or his dad, who isn't a safe pair of hands.

[palooka]

From Fight News

So it’s on – Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko, for the heavyweight championship of the world. It’s nice to be so far out from the fight, with all the politics and business side of it behind us, and know exactly where we stand. We’re absolutely delighted. The business side of making fights like this is the worst part of boxing, so it’s great to get it all out of the way and put it to the back of our minds; both camps know what they’ve got to do and they can just concentrate now on the boxing side of it.

As for Tyson, he’s totally motivated for this fight. No surprises there. This is his fourth week in, his weight is coming off nicely and we’re very happy with him. I just can’t wait for it to come round now. It’s a massive occasion and it makes us all determined to go that extra mile.

Some have asked me if there’s a danger of Tyson overtraining for this fight – starting too early, peaking too soon. Nonsense. We’re very professional at what we do, otherwise we wouldn’t be here; we wouldn’t be in the position we’re in. Only amateurs overtrain and people who don’t know what they’re doing.

I liaise with the best strength and conditioners around the world. We’ve got the best knowledge and it’s all science-based. We know when to push, when not to push and the type of body fat he needs to have at each stage of the preparation. It’s very, very complex, but it’s your job to know all of that. That’s why you’re a trainer and manager looking after a fighter. You’ve got to do everything – food, conditioning, boxing and so on. It’s a round-the-clock job. If you don’t know what you’re doing, you shouldn’t be doing it. There’s a lot of people doing it that don’t know what they’re doing and that’s why they fail.

In my opinion, this is 100% the best time to have the fight. Let’s look at reality here: Tyson is never going to get beaten up by a smaller guy. He’s too big, and now he’s using his boxing like he should be using them and he’s almost playing with smaller opponents. It’s too easy for him.

The only people out there who could give Tyson a fight – a genuine fight – are Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder. Apart from those two, nobody else can. He’d play with all the other heavyweights. That’s not because he’s supremely talented, it’s simply because they’re either too inexperienced and not ready for him or he’s just too big.

There’s nobody else in the division, aside from Klitschko and Wilder, who can even test Tyson at this stage. Fights against Klitschko and Wilder, though, are proper 50/50 fights. They can go either way. These are the fights we get our teeth into. We can keep beating six-foot-two heavyweights until the cows come home, but what’s the point?

Wilder is 34-0, so has officially had more fights than Tyson, but I only see him as having had two proper fights. The first was against Bermane Stiverne and the second was against Eric Molina, which was a fight that ended up being a struggle for him. Those are the only two times he’s faced decent heavyweights who gave him a fight.

Wilder is improving all the time and he’ll get better with the type of fights he’s now having. He wasn’t really prepared for a world title shot when he faced Stiverne, even though he won. Stiverne was just the right opponent at the right time. He was also very poor that night.

Wilder, though, isn’t what you’d call ‘world championship ready’. He’s not good enough or seasoned enough yet to hold that title and look at the rest of the division and think, I’ve got the beating of all of you. There are plenty of fighters out there who could trouble him at this stage.

But, with each fight, he keeps getting better and he learns more and more. He can box, he’s athletic and he’s a talented kid. In many ways, Wilder has been a victim of his own punch power – he’s been winning fights and creating a long, unbeaten run, but he’s learnt absolutely nothing in the process.

Tyson, on the other hand, has learnt plenty along the way – he’s had tough fights, easy fights, he’s faced big guys, small guys and he’s dragged himself off the floor to win. He’s more than ready to take the world heavyweight title from Wladimir Klitschko on October 24.

I'm glad he's so confident of Tyson, but he's wrong about all the other boxers bar Klit and Wilder having no chance. Povetkin would eat Fury alive,

Don't let your wallet do the talking.

[Counter-puncher]

Tyson won't listen to anyone other than Peter or his dad, who isn't a safe pair of hands.

certainly not if you might have implied that he is anything less than the best fighting man at this auction.

[Counter-puncher]

on the other hand if you're after someone else's eyeball, he's safe as houses. or trailers even.

[jamesmcdonnell]

From Fight News

So it’s on – Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko, for the heavyweight championship of the world. It’s nice to be so far out from the fight, with all the politics and business side of it behind us, and know exactly where we stand. We’re absolutely delighted. The business side of making fights like this is the worst part of boxing, so it’s great to get it all out of the way and put it to the back of our minds; both camps know what they’ve got to do and they can just concentrate now on the boxing side of it.

As for Tyson, he’s totally motivated for this fight. No surprises there. This is his fourth week in, his weight is coming off nicely and we’re very happy with him. I just can’t wait for it to come round now. It’s a massive occasion and it makes us all determined to go that extra mile.

Some have asked me if there’s a danger of Tyson overtraining for this fight – starting too early, peaking too soon. Nonsense. We’re very professional at what we do, otherwise we wouldn’t be here; we wouldn’t be in the position we’re in. Only amateurs overtrain and people who don’t know what they’re doing.

I liaise with the best strength and conditioners around the world. We’ve got the best knowledge and it’s all science-based. We know when to push, when not to push and the type of body fat he needs to have at each stage of the preparation. It’s very, very complex, but it’s your job to know all of that. That’s why you’re a trainer and manager looking after a fighter. You’ve got to do everything – food, conditioning, boxing and so on. It’s a round-the-clock job. If you don’t know what you’re doing, you shouldn’t be doing it. There’s a lot of people doing it that don’t know what they’re doing and that’s why they fail.

In my opinion, this is 100% the best time to have the fight. Let’s look at reality here: Tyson is never going to get beaten up by a smaller guy. He’s too big, and now he’s using his boxing like he should be using them and he’s almost playing with smaller opponents. It’s too easy for him.

The only people out there who could give Tyson a fight – a genuine fight – are Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder. Apart from those two, nobody else can. He’d play with all the other heavyweights. That’s not because he’s supremely talented, it’s simply because they’re either too inexperienced and not ready for him or he’s just too big.

There’s nobody else in the division, aside from Klitschko and Wilder, who can even test Tyson at this stage. Fights against Klitschko and Wilder, though, are proper 50/50 fights. They can go either way. These are the fights we get our teeth into. We can keep beating six-foot-two heavyweights until the cows come home, but what’s the point?

Wilder is 34-0, so has officially had more fights than Tyson, but I only see him as having had two proper fights. The first was against Bermane Stiverne and the second was against Eric Molina, which was a fight that ended up being a struggle for him. Those are the only two times he’s faced decent heavyweights who gave him a fight.

Wilder is improving all the time and he’ll get better with the type of fights he’s now having. He wasn’t really prepared for a world title shot when he faced Stiverne, even though he won. Stiverne was just the right opponent at the right time. He was also very poor that night.

Wilder, though, isn’t what you’d call ‘world championship ready’. He’s not good enough or seasoned enough yet to hold that title and look at the rest of the division and think, I’ve got the beating of all of you. There are plenty of fighters out there who could trouble him at this stage.

But, with each fight, he keeps getting better and he learns more and more. He can box, he’s athletic and he’s a talented kid. In many ways, Wilder has been a victim of his own punch power – he’s been winning fights and creating a long, unbeaten run, but he’s learnt absolutely nothing in the process.

Tyson, on the other hand, has learnt plenty along the way – he’s had tough fights, easy fights, he’s faced big guys, small guys and he’s dragged himself off the floor to win. He’s more than ready to take the world heavyweight title from Wladimir Klitschko on October 24.

I'm glad he's so confident of Tyson, but he's wrong about all the other boxers bar Klit and Wilder having no chance. Povetkin would eat Fury alive,

Don't let your wallet do the talking.

A fight with Wlad is not 50-50 - it's more like 10-90. Obviously they've got to go in there believing he can win, but deep down, all of them know that his chances of winning are pretty slim. Wlad is one of the best heavyweights of the last 20 years - he may be boring, but he's become so difficult to hit and virtually impossible to dominate. He's just so cagey now, and even fighting circumspectly, he has so much power, that he just busts people up with the jab until they've nothing left to give.

[IRLangmaid25]

I must admit that the more I think about the match up the harder the pick becomes. Tyson Fury has youth, size and the ability to mix it up which could give a great and experienced champion in the shape of Wladimir Klitschko a few things to think about. But Wladimir's superior boxing brain, proven knockout punch swings it for me.

[palooka]

Tyson is a real entertainer but Wlad's jab will be as hard as a Cunningham right hand, I can see Tyson boxing well but get hammered by the jab and stopped mid fight.

[keithmoonhangover]

I must admit that the more I think about the match up the harder the pick becomes. Tyson Fury has youth, size and the ability to mix it up which could give a great and experienced champion in the shape of Wladimir Klitschko a few things to think about. But Wladimir's superior boxing brain, proven knockout punch swings it for me.

Ha'way Langers man, Fury eats right hands like I eat pain killers!!

[chiggsy]

I'll be betting on a klit stoppage purely because fury will not do a "haye" and go out like a sh*thouse.

Think it'll get to about round 8 or 9,will be a mile behind and will go sh*t or bust and come unstuck.

Hope i'm wrong mind,i like fury huge charachter but he's in with the best heavy since lennox lewis here.

[Dixonian]

I don't go with all this: 'Tyson will at least have a right ol' go unlike Haye etc etc". I actually think there's a chance Fury could freeze on the night. Hope he doesn't, mind.

[crusader]

Funny this is that loads were saying that about Haye before he fought Wlad. Fury may give it a go, but let's see how he reacts when he's punched by Wlad rather than a light-hitting cruiserweight or Chisora and he's getting paid a very large purse that should set him up for life without another fight.

[Andrew]

My thoughts are changing a lot on this one. the biggest factor for me is the emormous gap in quality from Furys opponents to Wlad. It's a shame he never fought Pulev TT or Ustinov.

[Sklar]

Refer to Lennox vs Briggs, I expect the fight to be somewhat like that (Wlad as Lennox). Wlad knows Tyson doesn't have as much pop as most and can fairly safely make a 'war' of it. I hope it's like tht and not like the Grant fight.

[keithmoonhangover]

I'll be betting on a klit stoppage purely because fury will not do a "haye" and go out like a sh*thouse.

Think it'll get to about round 8 or 9,will be a mile behind and will go sh*t or bust and come unstuck.

Hope i'm wrong mind,i like fury huge charachter but he's in with the best heavy since lennox lewis here.

You must have missed the Kevin Johnson fight, where Fury boxed/ran all night in a stinker.

[expe]

I'll be betting on a klit stoppage purely because fury will not do a "haye" and go out like a sh*thouse.

Think it'll get to about round 8 or 9,will be a mile behind and will go sh*t or bust and come unstuck.

Hope i'm wrong mind,i like fury huge charachter but he's in with the best heavy since lennox lewis here.

You must have missed the Kevin Johnson fight, where Fury boxed/ran all night in a stinker.

He boxed Johnson's ears off for 12 rounds, to suggest he ran is just stupid. Earlier in this thread you were saying he eats right hands like you eat pain killers, which isn't true anyway, then complain about the fights he's boxed sensibly in. Makes no sense, either you slag him off for having no defence, or when he keeps it tight, you complain that he's boring, can't have it both ways. If he's behind he'll go for it at some point, more or less anyone could work that out, the idea that he won't just because he was in a boring fight with Kevin Johnson doesn't really make sense, were you expecting him to go for it in that fight or something? Even though he was a mile in front, against a negative opponent who had gone 12 rounds with Vitali and was expected to be difficult to stop.

[keithmoonhangover]

He boxed Johnson's ears off for 12 rounds, to suggest he ran is just stupid. Earlier in this thread you were saying he eats right hands like you eat pain killers, which isn't true anyway, then complain about the fights he's boxed sensibly in. Makes no sense, either you slag him off for having no defence, or when he keeps it tight, you complain that he's boring, can't have it both ways. If he's behind he'll go for it at some point, more or less anyone could work that out, the idea that he won't just because he was in a boring fight with Kevin Johnson doesn't really make sense, were you expecting him to go for it in that fight or something? Even though he was a mile in front, against a negative opponent who had gone 12 rounds with Vitali and was expected to be difficult to stop.

Calm down man, I was just trying to illustrate the point that all fighters can be in a dull fight and to suggest Fury will automatically leave it in the ring against Wlad is daft. I thought Fury boxed excellently against Johnson and kept his focus all night - focus being one of Fury's weaknesses.

Fact remains that Fury eats right hands and Wlad will feed him some big ones.

[expe]

He boxed Johnson's ears off for 12 rounds, to suggest he ran is just stupid. Earlier in this thread you were saying he eats right hands like you eat pain killers, which isn't true anyway, then complain about the fights he's boxed sensibly in. Makes no sense, either you slag him off for having no defence, or when he keeps it tight, you complain that he's boring, can't have it both ways. If he's behind he'll go for it at some point, more or less anyone could work that out, the idea that he won't just because he was in a boring fight with Kevin Johnson doesn't really make sense, were you expecting him to go for it in that fight or something? Even though he was a mile in front, against a negative opponent who had gone 12 rounds with Vitali and was expected to be difficult to stop.

Calm down man, I was just trying to illustrate the point that all fighters can be in a dull fight and to suggest Fury will automatically leave it in the ring against Wlad is daft. I thought Fury boxed excellently against Johnson and kept his focus all night - focus being one of Fury's weaknesses.

Fact remains that Fury eats right hands and Wlad will feed him some big ones.

There won't be any plodding to a decision loss, if he's in front I don't think he'll do anything stupid but if he's behind I can't see him being content to just go the distance.

He doesn't eat right hands though. In his last two fights he's hardly taken a punch, same as his fights against Rogan, Maddalone and Johnson, recently the only time he's looked poor defensively is against Abell, when he was completely out of shape and Cunningham, where he didn't have Peter in the corner and made the same old mistake of rushing in without thinking. In the past he has had trouble with right hands, but it's always been the overhand right, a punch that Wlad throws rarely if at all, not the straight right, which is Wlad's big shot. Different punches, thrown from completely different angles. He doesn't have a problem with the overhand right anymore because he's learned to keep his distance and hold his head well out of range. The whole Fury has no defence thing isn't really valid anymore, but because people ignore the improvements he's made it's still around.

[Counter-puncher]

Agree mate I think Klit may well be a bigger threat to knock him out if he steps in with a left hook off the jab than with the right.

[crusader]

So easy to write off the Cunningham struggles as being due to Peter's absence isn't it? It's almost as if people think Fury was rushing in fighting like a caveman when in fact he was jabbing plenty and boxing prior to being dropped. It also makes me wonder how mentally fragile Fury is if he has problems like that simply because Peter isn't there.

Maybe the fact that Cunningham is a good fighter who isn't a basic plodder like Hammer and Chisora had something to do with Fury not looking so hot? What about Cunningham actually throwing punches and trying to win unlike KJ?

[chiggsy]

I'll be betting on a klit stoppage purely because fury will not do a "haye" and go out like a sh*thouse.

Think it'll get to about round 8 or 9,will be a mile behind and will go sh*t or bust and come unstuck.

Hope i'm wrong mind,i like fury huge charachter but he's in with the best heavy since lennox lewis here.

You must have missed the Kevin Johnson fight, where Fury boxed/ran all night in a stinker.

Your right i did,i watched the other one were fury one every minute of every round in third gear.

[keithmoonhangover]

He boxed Johnson's ears off for 12 rounds, to suggest he ran is just stupid. Earlier in this thread you were saying he eats right hands like you eat pain killers, which isn't true anyway, then complain about the fights he's boxed sensibly in. Makes no sense, either you slag him off for having no defence, or when he keeps it tight, you complain that he's boring, can't have it both ways. If he's behind he'll go for it at some point, more or less anyone could work that out, the idea that he won't just because he was in a boring fight with Kevin Johnson doesn't really make sense, were you expecting him to go for it in that fight or something? Even though he was a mile in front, against a negative opponent who had gone 12 rounds with Vitali and was expected to be difficult to stop.

Calm down man, I was just trying to illustrate the point that all fighters can be in a dull fight and to suggest Fury will automatically leave it in the ring against Wlad is daft. I thought Fury boxed excellently against Johnson and kept his focus all night - focus being one of Fury's weaknesses.

Fact remains that Fury eats right hands and Wlad will feed him some big ones.

There won't be any plodding to a decision loss, if he's in front I don't think he'll do anything stupid but if he's behind I can't see him being content to just go the distance.

He doesn't eat right hands though. In his last two fights he's hardly taken a punch, same as his fights against Rogan, Maddalone and Johnson, recently the only time he's looked poor defensively is against Abell, when he was completely out of shape and Cunningham, where he didn't have Peter in the corner and made the same old mistake of rushing in without thinking. In the past he has had trouble with right hands, but it's always been the overhand right, a punch that Wlad throws rarely if at all, not the straight right, which is Wlad's big shot. Different punches, thrown from completely different angles. He doesn't have a problem with the overhand right anymore because he's learned to keep his distance and hold his head well out of range. The whole Fury has no defence thing isn't really valid anymore, but because people ignore the improvements he's made it's still around.

Sorry mate, but you're talking out of your arse. Peter was only absent for the fight, not the whole training camp. Having Peter with him doesn't guarantee Tyson will be in shape. He's looked defensively shaky in far more fights, than ones he hasn't. The only reason it's the overhand right, is that they've never put him in the ring with anyone tall enough to throw the straight right. I agree, he's made some improvements, but if you're basing his progress on a fights against a shop worn Delboy and an easy to beat Hammer, then you're easily impressed.

Look what Wlad did to Pulev and Thompson, then watch some of Fury. Tyson's going to get absolutely massacred in the ring. It's going to be a hard night while it lasts. Wlad's jab will land, as will the right and when he lands a left hook that Fury doesn't see coming, Tyson's going to kiss the canvas.

[jamesmcdonnell]

It's going to be a rude awakening for Fury and his people - Wlad is going to hammer him, I just can't see any other outcome.