Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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Butterbean wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:
Butterbean wrote:Isnt it the same story with floyd and ward. Claiming tbe, sog, calling out this and that, and when they get called they demand unrealistic or extreme benefits to actually get in the ring ? Damn idiots, making this sport look like a bloody bitch fight in junior high.
No, it is not the same.

Ward is content at 168. Floyd is content at 147 and 154.

Neither guy is talking about fighting in 3 or 4 weight classes like GGG is.
ohh, i thought void claimed a mw title and to be tbe and all, must have misunderstood then. sorry my bad.
and all of wards fight beyond 168... well, guess i need new glasses...

when and where did golovkin state that he would fight at 3 or 4 weightclasses ?
where can i find this ?; same place as the list of the handfull of hw´s that wlads ducking ?
Please educate me on where Mayweather claimed a 160 lb title.

I'll wait...

And have you been living on the moon? Or is this that selective amnesia you so often fall victim to?

It is common knowledge GGG has proposed fights in his own weight, and at 154, 168, and even 175.

He has numerous interviews where he is asked the question of fighting at different weights and responds in the affirmative.

As you know, I am allergic to trying to prove the obvious.

And with folks like yourself, proof is irrelevant anyway- no matter how much evidence you are given, you will find a way to believe what you wish no matter how false.

Good luck with that.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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koolkc107 wrote: Please educate me on where Mayweather claimed a 160 lb title.

I'll wait...
According to you, that's your job to find.

:lol:
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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The proof of the mw title can be found the same place you'll find the list of the handfull of fighters that wlad ducked. Further down that list youll see the quotations with all the fights golovkin proposed at different weights. At the very end of that list, youll find a map, showing directions to where your brains' at. Good luck
Dumbass

But ohh, actually no need, its all common knowledge...
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

Post by Evander »

Haven't been updating the grapevine lately so I don't who's been saying what about who.
But if Andre Ward says he can make 168 and is calling GGG to fight there then GGG should go up, perhaps not straight away as they need time to build the bout but GGG should take the opportunity.
Ward isn't going down to 160 forget that idea, besides Ward is a proven at the high level GGG isn't yet and has more work to do.

As for Kovalev v Ward I would have thought that's more doable in the short term if both of them want it, Ward is big enough to make 175 so why not make the fight.
That said there's a side of me that thinks Ward won't carry the power against Kovalev, Sergey can hit and is tough so I think Ward would have to fight a much more cagey style against him and not be able to stand and trade, Andre's style options are limited against Kovalev.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote: Please educate me on where Mayweather claimed a 160 lb title.

I'll wait...
According to you, that's your job to find.

:lol:
Thanks for the laugh.

But you and your rub-out buddies' failure to get over a statement of fact is not a good look.

I was being nice to ButterBall, trying to give him a chance to walk back an obvious error- Mayweather never won a middleweight title, hasn't even ever weighed in at more than 152, well under jr middleweight.

(See, that is how you do that. You state fact to negate untruth).

But you chuckleheads somehow can equate that blatant falsehood to me making a statement then telling you EXACTLY where you can find the proof of my claim.

Well done, kids.

Can't wait to see what other idiocies you manage to hold equivalent to facts.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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koolkc107 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote: Please educate me on where Mayweather claimed a 160 lb title.

I'll wait...
According to you, that's your job to find.

:lol:
Thanks for the laugh.

But you and your rub-out buddies' failure to get over a statement of fact is not a good look.

I was being nice to ButterBall, trying to give him a chance to walk back an obvious error- Mayweather never won a middleweight title, hasn't even ever weighed in at more than 152, well under jr middleweight.

(See, that is how you do that. You state fact to negate untruth).

But you chuckleheads somehow can equate that blatant falsehood to me making a statement then telling you EXACTLY where you can find the proof of my claim.

Well done, kids.

Can't wait to see what other idiocies you manage to hold equivalent to facts.
Again village idiot, it's no ones job to prove your idiotic claim but you...but you can't, so go back to hanging out with your "girlfriend" and avoiding the subject :lol:
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:

According to you, that's your job to find.

:lol:
Thanks for the laugh.

But you and your rub-out buddies' failure to get over a statement of fact is not a good look.

I was being nice to ButterBall, trying to give him a chance to walk back an obvious error- Mayweather never won a middleweight title, hasn't even ever weighed in at more than 152, well under jr middleweight.

(See, that is how you do that. You state fact to negate untruth).

But you chuckleheads somehow can equate that blatant falsehood to me making a statement then telling you EXACTLY where you can find the proof of my claim.

Well done, kids.

Can't wait to see what other idiocies you manage to hold equivalent to facts.
Again village idiot, it's no ones job to prove your idiotic claim but you...but you can't, so go back to hanging out with your "girlfriend" and avoiding the subject :lol:
You do realize you are a frequent source of amusement for me, right?

I mean, how can I be upset at someone so clearly bitter and mentally deficient?

And you and your fellow clods are such sycophantical myopians that proving anything is irrelevant in any case.

Your feelings are hurt and it looks like they are going to stay hurt.

Pity.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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koolkc107 wrote: You do realize you are a frequent source of amusement for me, right?

I mean, how can I be upset at someone so clearly bitter and mentally deficient?

And you and your fellow clods are such sycophantical myopians that proving anything is irrelevant in any case.

Your feelings are hurt and it looks like they are going to stay hurt.

Pity.
I'm not upset at all. Quite the contrary. I originally was simply asking for clarification but when you started crawling it just grew and became this hilariously sad episode. I've seen some cringe-worthy trolls before but you take the cake.

So keep on not posting the names that don't exist! Bravo!! :lol:
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote: You do realize you are a frequent source of amusement for me, right?

I mean, how can I be upset at someone so clearly bitter and mentally deficient?

And you and your fellow clods are such sycophantical myopians that proving anything is irrelevant in any case.

Your feelings are hurt and it looks like they are going to stay hurt.

Pity.
I'm not upset at all. Quite the contrary. I originally was simply asking for clarification but when you started crawling it just grew and became this hilariously sad episode. I've seen some cringe-worthy trolls before but you take the cake.

So keep on not posting the names that don't exist! Bravo!! :lol:
You can insist you aren't upset all you like.

But, you following me from thread to thread like some Dickensian waif tells its own story.

It IS hilarious, I grant you that.

But evidently not to you.

For you, it is an obsession.

Unless, of course the following is your norm:

spending huge amounts of time and energy trying to persuade someone who gives less than 2 damns
what you think to produce some trivial proof you were instructed on how to find several thousand posts ago.

Not very flattering when boiled down to the essentials, is it?

:DDD
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koolkc107 wrote: You can insist you aren't upset all you like.

But, you following me from thread to thread like some Dickensian waif tells its own story.

It IS hilarious, I grant you that.

But evidently not to you.

For you, it is an obsession.

Unless, of course the following is your norm:

spending huge amounts of time and energy trying to persuade someone who gives less than 2 damns
what you think to produce some trivial proof you were instructed on how to find several thousand posts ago.

Not very flattering when boiled down to the essentials, is it?

:DDD
It's almost becoming embarrassing now how badly you're crawling.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote: You can insist you aren't upset all you like.

But, you following me from thread to thread like some Dickensian waif tells its own story.

It IS hilarious, I grant you that.

But evidently not to you.

For you, it is an obsession.

Unless, of course the following is your norm:

spending huge amounts of time and energy trying to persuade someone who gives less than 2 damns
what you think to produce some trivial proof you were instructed on how to find several thousand posts ago.

Not very flattering when boiled down to the essentials, is it?

:DDD
It's almost becoming embarrassing now how badly you're crawling.
No one is crawling but you.

This is a simple dynamic.

1) You care what I think.

2) I don't give a damn about what you think.

That is why I don't even have to direct comments at you to get a response from you.

Sort of like a well trained dog.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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koolkc107 wrote: No one is crawling but you.

This is a simple dynamic.

1) You care what I think.

2) I don't give a damn about what you think.

That is why I don't even have to direct comments at you to get a response from you.

Sort of like a well trained dog.
I'm not sure there's any more space for you to crawl, lil guy. All this because you spoke out your ass :lol:
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote: No one is crawling but you.

This is a simple dynamic.

1) You care what I think.

2) I don't give a damn about what you think.

That is why I don't even have to direct comments at you to get a response from you.

Sort of like a well trained dog.
I'm not sure there's any more space for you to crawl, lil guy. All this because you spoke out your ass :lol:
What is said was true and documented and I will repeat it.

There are a fistful of guys Wlad should of fought and has yet to.

You wishing it was not true wont change the fact that it is.

Now change your pad, take your pills and relax.

PS: If you want to keep being pathetic I'll be in another thread. Feel free to follow me there.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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koolkc107 wrote: What is said was true and documented and I will repeat it.

There are a fistful of guys Wlad should of fought and has yet to.

You wishing it was not true wont change the fact that it is.

Now change your pad, take your pills and relax.

PS: If you want to keep being pathetic I'll be in another thread. Feel free to follow me there.
Still no list.

Have fun crawling to another thread :salut:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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Now that GGG is locked up with Lemieux, let's see what Ward has for nuggets. I'm sure that Ward will come up with something to avoid fighting Kovalev. Wards all for fighting a smaller guy but lets see what he's got moving up to fight the baddest man on the planet.

This fight never happens.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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caldo2025 wrote:Now that GGG is locked up with Lemieux, let's see what Ward has for nuggets. I'm sure that Ward will come up with something to avoid fighting Kovalev. Wards all for fighting a smaller guy but lets see what he's got moving up to fight the baddest man on the planet.

This fight never happens.
Ward will fight GGG first or he never will.Ward is not going to move up to 175 and then have to do
a catch weight of 164 with GGG.It does not make sense.
If we want to see Ward face both opponents we will have to wait for GGG first.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

Post by ikorolev »

I doubt that he can now make 164 and be in a condition to fight GGG. If he really wants to fight, they may negotiate 166. Also, if the Lemieux PPV is a success, GGG will likely have more good options at MW and will not be in a hurry to fight Ward.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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Freedom2013 wrote:Ward keeps shamelessly calling out boxers from smaller weight divisions.

He wants to fight Floyd Mayweather at 160.

Ward has been repeatedly demanding Gennady Golovkin move up to 168 to fight him, but it's not a lucrative fight for GGG. If Ward wants him so bad, why not move down to 160?

Why won't Ward start talking about Sergey Kovalev, who is the same size although not as thickly built as Ward?

The egotistical self-declared "Son of God" demanded a 172 catch weight for his last fight, that weight is considered light heavyweight. Kovalev was a middleweight in the amateurs, Ward fought at light heavyweight.

Sergey's experience with Cedric Agnew and excellent preparation for Bernard Hopkins has taught him to avoid head butts. And Sergey is strong enough to resist Ward's clinching and clamping his arms. So it would be a fair fight: skill against skill, power against power.

Talks about Ward shamelessly calling out smaller fighters but readily gives GGG a pass for doing the exact same thing. Big HYPOCRITE!!!
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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GGG was just calling out money makers, both smaller and bigger ones. Ward is not calling out any LHWs.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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tiny_acres wrote:Ward will fight GGG first or he never will.Ward is not going to move up to 175 and then have to do
a catch weight of 164 with GGG.It does not make sense.
If we want to see Ward face both opponents we will have to wait for GGG first.
Ward fought last fight 171, not far off from the 178 Kovalev just fought at last night. No one wants to see Pascal again, that fight is useless. If Stevenson remains in his pimp chambers then the only option for Kovalev is Ward. GGG is now going to be tied up with Lemieux then the winner of Cotto/Canelo. Kovalev/Ward will happen. GGG wants to unify the belts so Ward is now out of that equation completely. I'm not mad about that
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

Post by caldo2025 »

Btw, I think Ward will be favored and probably beat Kovalev. Huge jump up in class for the Big Russian.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

Post by Tanzio »

punchoutsb wrote:
koolkc107 wrote: What is said was true and documented and I will repeat it.

There are a fistful of guys Wlad should of fought and has yet to.

You wishing it was not true wont change the fact that it is.

Now change your pad, take your pills and relax.

PS: If you want to keep being pathetic I'll be in another thread. Feel free to follow me there.
Still no list.

Have fun crawling to another thread :salut:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Allow me to assist (as I have in another thread), clearly WKlit has ducked Thurman, Brook, Bradley, Porter and Khan :OhYes: Can we move along now?
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

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caldo2025 wrote:Btw, I think Ward will be favored and probably beat Kovalev. Huge jump up in class for the Big Russian.
And Ward has never fought a LHW like Kovalev. Will he be able to push him around like he did to smaller men at 168? How will he take a shot from such a good puncher who also possesses skill?

Intriguing fight and one of the best (the best?) that can be made.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

Post by Tanzio »

I have considered Ward a non-factor for years. It is up to him to do more than flap his chops.
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Re: Will Ward duck Sergey Kovalev?

Post by Badhusker »

I hope Kovalev tells Ward to fick off if he tries to demand a catch weight.
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