Amir Khan & Keith Thurman are the most overrated boxers today

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Amir Khan & Keith Thurman are the most overrated boxers today

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I don't think either one of these guys could beat Floyd Mayweather are Kell Brook & i don't believe either one of them are ppv fighters.Amir Khan looked very poor in the fight against Chris Algeria & been ducking Kell Brook for a year,he would rather fight Mayweather for a big pay day,than rather fight for a world title.Keith Thurman didn't look very impressive against Bundu or the fight against Luis Collazo,the last time Thurman had a great win was against Diego Chavez & both them are always calling out Floyd even though they know they won't win.They rather loss for a big payday rather then to improve themselves. :TU:
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At least Khan is entertaining. Other than the Collazo fight the guy has always been great value, entertaining, exciting, fast hands, looks shook. It's edge of your seat action with Amir.

Thurman on the otherhand is a boring, overrated runner who does absolutely nothing out of the ordinary.
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First of all, that original post could barely be read. Second of all, Amir Khan isn't remotely overrated, because most people rate him quite low. Unless you're trying to suggest that Amir Khan is not even a top 20 welterweight, then he's not overrated.
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Khan isn't very good. But he's a definite top 10 guy, who has some decent wins and lots of skills.

He kinda like wlad 12 years ago. He's got all the potential to be good, but hasn't developed a style that helps hide his chin

Thurman is good, but agree people are hyping him too much as something he's not.

But Brook??? Most overrated of the bunch. He has one decent win (porter) in a fight I had porter winning closely. But he looked scared and Floyd called to tell him he held too much.

Brook is a joke-
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First all Lackeos don't you be checking me about what the f#ck i write
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psychod1986 wrote:I don't think either one of these guys could beat Floyd Mayweather are Kell Brook & i don't believe either one of them are ppv fighters.Amir Khan looked very poor in the fight against Chris Algeria & been ducking Kell Brook for a year,he would rather fight Mayweather for a big pay day,than rather fight for a world title.Keith Thurman didn't look very impressive against Bundu or the fight against Luis Collazo,the last time Thurman had a great win was against Diego Chavez & both them are always calling out Floyd even though they know they won't win.They rather loss for a big payday rather then to improve themselves. :TU:
I agree with your opening two sentences but I think Bundu is a tricky opponent for anyone because he has a very awkward style to adjust to, I do think Thurman is overrated but Khan is even moreso than Keith is.

After Khan beat the one dimensional Alexander everyone was talking about how "Improved" Khan supposedly was and how he'd beat this person and that person and I argued that he showed no improvement and that beating Devon was nothing special because Alexander showed he is incapable of making any adjustments.

Now that Algieiri has exposed Khan for the overrated hype job he really is now people are finally starting to see the light, as far as Thurman; it was his punching power that was overhyped about him but since he's stepped up in competition lately he has been exposed for not having the "one punch" KO power he was rumored to have.

Overall Thurman's boxing skills seem to be better than Khan's (especially his defense) but both of them actually "run" in boxing when being walked down so neither have shown that they are anything special and are overrated on their perceived abilities.
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harsh on thruman hasnt lost yet
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verballistic wrote:
brilo33 wrote:harsh on thruman hasnt lost yet
http://boxrec.com/forum/posting.php?mod ... &p=4230231#
Agreed. Thurman MAY turn out to be overrated, but it's hard to tell about an undefeated guy. His most impressive win to me was his breakdown of then-unbeaten Diego Chaves, especially after Chaves had that draw with Bradley. While the win over Bundu was boring, it's still the only loss on the crafty veteran's ledger
Bundu's record is fairly padded (who are the best three he's beaten?) and I thought the Bradley beat Chaves 9-3 without getting busted up like Thurman did early.

I think Thurman will prove to be good but not great.
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Nothing about Thurman screams "great" to me.

When I watch Mayweather or Ward or Kovalev...the 3 best fighters in the world right now for my money - greatness jumps out at me. It doesn't do that with Thurman. He's a very good fighter but there's more than a few guys in his own division who stand a good chance of beating him, I'd say. Without even mentioning Floyd or Pac guys that come to mind are Brook, Bradley, Porter, Maidana, Khan. Even Spence perhaps. None of these guys would be a surprise for me to beat Keith.
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They are both very good boxers and Thurman is very, very good and will be one of the best P4P. Just watch.
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The Algieri fight showed that Khan has the same flaws he's always had.

Only gullible idiots thought Hunter improved anything.

It's a myth that Khan's only weakness is his chin. He also has poor defense, no inside game, is predictable, and doesn't look comfortable on the back foot.

And maybe it's just me, but I think he looked slower than usual in the Algieri fight.
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Wow, Thurman is being paired with Khan.

Such bullshit.
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Even being a fan of Floyd's, I really, really, will be glad when he retires. It seems like he is a reason the rest don't fight each other. Everyone hoping for a payday. Khan for sure, but his mouth cost him getting Floyd. He is still going to wait though - what an idiot.

So we have Khan, Brook, Maidna, Porter, Thurman, Spence, now Garcia...maybe Pac next spring. What are the chances any of they will fight each other next? Probably zero. Pretty sad in a division that has an abundance of talent.
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KBB wrote:
psychod1986 wrote:I don't think either one of these guys could beat Floyd Mayweather are Kell Brook & i don't believe either one of them are ppv fighters.Amir Khan looked very poor in the fight against Chris Algeria & been ducking Kell Brook for a year,he would rather fight Mayweather for a big pay day,than rather fight for a world title.Keith Thurman didn't look very impressive against Bundu or the fight against Luis Collazo,the last time Thurman had a great win was against Diego Chavez & both them are always calling out Floyd even though they know they won't win.They rather loss for a big payday rather then to improve themselves. :TU:
I agree with your opening two sentences but I think Bundu is a tricky opponent for anyone because he has a very awkward style to adjust to, I do think Thurman is overrated but Khan is even moreso than Keith is.

After Khan beat the one dimensional Alexander everyone was talking about how "Improved" Khan supposedly was and how he'd beat this person and that person and I argued that he showed no improvement and that beating Devon was nothing special because Alexander showed he is incapable of making any adjustments.

Now that Algieiri has exposed Khan for the overrated hype job he really is now people are finally starting to see the light, as far as Thurman; it was his punching power that was overhyped about him but since he's stepped up in competition lately he has been exposed for not having the "one punch" KO power he was rumored to have.

Overall Thurman's boxing skills seem to be better than Khan's (especially his defense) but both of them actually "run" in boxing when being walked down so neither have shown that they are anything special and are overrated on their perceived abilities.
Alexander's not even that good. He lost to Porter and Bradley, and got gifts over Matthysse and Kotelnik.
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psychod1986 wrote:I don't think either one of these guys could beat Floyd Mayweather are Kell Brook & i don't believe either one of them are ppv fighters.Amir Khan looked very poor in the fight against Chris Algeria & been ducking Kell Brook for a year,he would rather fight Mayweather for a big pay day,than rather fight for a world title.Keith Thurman didn't look very impressive against Bundu or the fight against Luis Collazo,the last time Thurman had a great win was against Diego Chavez & both them are always calling out Floyd even though they know they won't win.They rather loss for a big payday rather then to improve themselves. :TU:
Overrated because you believe that neither can beat FMJ and Brook. Most agree with you on FMJ and the jury is out on Brook.

While the vast majority of us believe that FMJ would defeat Thurman and/or Khan, a similar consensus would prefer FMJ prove it over fighting a foregone conclusion like Berto.
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Khans a joy to watch.. even if u dislike him.
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95gerog wrote:Khans a joy to watch.. even if u dislike him.
The only thing fun about watching Khan, is when he does the chicken dance. Lately he has avoided big punchers, but even a feather fisted Algieri rocked him a couple of times....not enough to be all that funny though.


Who will he fight next? Thurman, Brook, Porter, Maidana, Garcia? No Look for him to get another 140lber to come up, or someone like Guerrero or Ortiz, maybe Rios. My guess would be Guerrero.
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I liked Thurman's performance against Bundu,for the first time he showed he's more than a banger,he loves a fight but more recently he's showing he can box for 12 rounds and stick to a gameplan without eventually being dragged into a slug out

Granted the Collazo fight was the worst ive seen from Keith but there's doesnt seem to be any major chinks in his armour,he done excellent to stay on his feet from that bodyshot

Why does everyone on here think anyone who isnt A+ every single fight is poo or overated?

Fair enough Thurman hasnt had his BIG coming out party yet but he can box and he can fight and has heart so for me he wont do too badly

Khan on the other hand is a conundrum,im a fan of his although i had him drawing with Algieri but he's capable of beating great fighters some days and other days hes capable of getting beat from lesser guys,thats what makes him fun to watch,if he went and got KO'd in his next fight by say Vargas,i'd still give the same chance of beating Mayweather as i do now,

Amir's waffling outside the rings becoming tiresome though
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