Will Price retire or not?

Will Price retire or not?

Yes
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No
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Total votes: 187

veriton
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by veriton »

prior to the second thompson defeat, he would have been the favourite against all three of them. even tyson fury dodged him.

no doubt the losses, especially the last one, have affected him. but he looks like he's only a decent jab away from being a good fighter. he said he had been holding his own in tough sparring sessions and he took some good shots last friday before folding. he can come again, or if he just wants a few paydays then im sure he can get in there with AJ etc. one thing is for sure, he's never in a dull fight.
rm1
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by rm1 »

As said above a decent jab would help but he's chinny and everyone knows it so its over for him at top level. I am actually more worried know about Chisora I think he is dumb enough to go on and on and get really hurt.
lillywhite14
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by lillywhite14 »

How many fighters have suddenly discovered a good jab at the age of 32 after boxing for 17 odd years? It isn't happening. Even when he was full of confidence he pawed with it.

Some people's confidence is harder to restore than others. He will always be one half decent shot landed away from crumbling.
handsofstone
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by handsofstone »

I was a massive believer in Price,I thought he had the best chance of replacing Klitschko as top dog,the parallels in their career are similar,as well as their physical and mental appearence but David looks to have shown,he hasn't the skills to use his attributes, he has devastating power but the jab which should be key somehow looks useless,Teper is a little buzzsaw and not all Price's opponents will attack him like that(or they maybe will now) but I'm not giving up on his fighting heart yet,his punch resistance yeah but if he can bring a new trainer in,someone who's world class (Teddy Atlas anyone?) then if he can learn to use the fundamentals,mostly the jab,he already has a great right cross,also get the stamina in check then there may be hope,especially in this day and age
whiskey
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by whiskey »

I think there is a trend of Brits liking the guy and papering over his flaws. I too would count myself as one of those people.

The reality is that he uses none of his attributes, has the chin of a super-flyweight and could get seriously hurt if he carries on.

Prior to Thompson he was fringe world class / European level - but since then he is about English-title level.

If he's happy with that then fine - carry on fighting.

For me it's a sorry tale of hideous matchmaking not just once, but twice by Maloney.

Originally fighters looked scared of him before the first bell, and he knocked them sideways for as long as it lasts. Nowadays he is one who is completely shot of confidence.

I'd say the mental game at heavy is more important than any other weight class, and if you haven't got it right mentally then all sorts of things go wrong.
big lennox
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by big lennox »

I think the problem in the second Thompson fight was that he was so scared of getting knocked out again (understandable) that he got very nervous and used up all his energy and got tired very quickly.

For me, though, the problem is that his chin doesn't hold up to a solid heavyweight punch, and now he is so nervous, and only half using his jab and backing off, he is going to get hit again. And knocked out again.

He seems like a top bloke, and hasa good mind on him. I wrote on another thread that he could have a good career as a commentator/analysist ahead of him. Far better that that carry on and get hurt.

Riddick Bowe had a career as a commentator lined up, and then the two Golota fights happened and he got hurt and can hardly speak. Bowe was a lot tougher and better than Price too.
Rogers21
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by Rogers21 »

Controversial wrote:
Rogers21 wrote:
i dont even think his chin is that bad, majority of heavys who get hit flush will go down its a dangerous division, i just think he has no confidence in his ability
Serious? Confidence matters but lack of confidence doesn't mean you fall over easier. His first stoppage defeat was a cuff around the ear that some people gave him the benefit of the doubt that his balance was affected. His second stoppage he was out of steam after 4 rounds and the last fight he was knocked out and left on the floor for several minutes from a rather innocuous hook. To be fair that doesn't bode well for his future.
confidence matters when your not throwing anything back, maybe he hasnt got the best chin in the world, neither has a certain Klitchko but Wlad uses his attributes to hide that.

Price looked like he went in there expecting to be knocked out.
johnswan1
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by johnswan1 »

Yes and it's not just the chin, it's the heart too. The way he finished the second TT fight when he was cowering in the corner waiting for the ref to jump in to protect him, it reminded me of a child getting out of a swimming pool and standing crouched over shivering while he waits for his mother to come running over and wrap him in a towel. It was pretty sad to watch, especially in front of a packed crowd of fellow Nan lovers.
lillywhite14
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by lillywhite14 »

His accent makes a commentary career unlikely!
danamba7
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by danamba7 »

lillywhite14 wrote:His accent makes a commentary career unlikely!
Not quite as bad as Enzo Mac and he's made a few TV appearances.
SteveDow
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by SteveDow »

danamba7 wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:His accent makes a commentary career unlikely!
Not quite as bad as Enzo Mac and he's made a few TV appearances.
Paul Smith and Tony Bellew get lots of commentary roles and their Scouse accents are as strong as Price's I reckon.
handsofstone
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by handsofstone »

lillywhite14 wrote:His accent makes a commentary career unlikely!
Hasn't done Jamie Carragher any harm TBF
Controversial
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by Controversial »

Rogers21 wrote:
Controversial wrote:
Rogers21 wrote:
i dont even think his chin is that bad, majority of heavys who get hit flush will go down its a dangerous division, i just think he has no confidence in his ability
Serious? Confidence matters but lack of confidence doesn't mean you fall over easier. His first stoppage defeat was a cuff around the ear that some people gave him the benefit of the doubt that his balance was affected. His second stoppage he was out of steam after 4 rounds and the last fight he was knocked out and left on the floor for several minutes from a rather innocuous hook. To be fair that doesn't bode well for his future.
confidence matters when your not throwing anything back, maybe he hasnt got the best chin in the world, neither has a certain Klitchko but Wlad uses his attributes to hide that.

Price looked like he went in there expecting to be knocked out.
To be fair I don't think Klit would have been left unconscious from the punch that Price took. Confidence matters and Price just doesn't have it, along with a bad chin. He could try adapt his style to become a hit and grab fighter like Klit but you need good fitness for that and his stamina is also suspect. His size and power will mean he will win some fights but at what level he is successful in is the question.
forcefraser
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by forcefraser »

handsofstone wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:His accent makes a commentary career unlikely!
Hasn't done Jamie Carragher any harm TBF
He would bring nans into boxing in a big way.

As far as scouse accents go, Price at least has one of the less grating, whining types. I`d take Price`s over Tom Stalker or Boomer`s anyday of the week. Price has a whispering/whisteling edge to his accent.

If the poor lad can get a suit that fits, then he could make a go of the old punditry.
chiggsy
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by chiggsy »

forcefraser wrote:
handsofstone wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:His accent makes a commentary career unlikely!
Hasn't done Jamie Carragher any harm TBF
He would bring nans into boxing in a big way.

As far as scouse accents go, Price at least has one of the less grating, whining types. I`d take Price`s over Tom Stalker or Boomer`s anyday of the week. Price has a whispering/whisteling edge to his accent.

If the poor lad can get a suit that fits, then he could make a go of the old punditry.
I think subtitles should be used for when tom stalker's getting interviewed like when they interview them strange looking uni browed jocks on fishing programes although saying that i don't think we'll be seeing that much more of tom stalker with the form he's in.

Still he loves his nan so....
northern
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by northern »

I personally hope Price carries on, he might not be the world beater he was once thought to be but as far as heavyweights go he is one of the likeable boxers who carry the sport in the right way.

Do I see him challenging for any of the big titles (WBC,WBA,IBF,WBO) no. but domestically and up to commonwealth or European level, yes I see him around the top of them and maybe challenging for the belts again in the next few years.
Ezzard
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by Ezzard »

Price hasn't taken too much punishment. He has to throw the dice in his fights from now on. A poor man's tommy hearns in his post Iran barley years was still a fighter we all wanted to watch.
whiskey
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by whiskey »

Stalker, Price .. I guess it underlines the difficulty in transitioning from a world class amateur into even domestic level pro boxing.

Chin & power are the two key things required.

What other amateur medalists do we have? I think it's probably Joshua and Campbell. Joe Costello too.
mickey1975
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by mickey1975 »

It's all going to change soon. A senior amateur fight is basically a 3 round pro fight. I've seen some brutal stuff, and the refs let them go. Nothing like the head guard days.
lillywhite14
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by lillywhite14 »

mickey1975 wrote:It's all going to change soon. A senior amateur fight is basically a 3 round pro fight. I've seen some brutal stuff, and the refs let them go. Nothing like the head guard days.
Leaves for little doubt as to who is going to do something as a pro. 'Should' see prospects get moved a little faster
deadpan
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by deadpan »

I used to play snooker with a mate who was much better at potting than me. I'd earnestly try to play safety shots like I had a condom on my cue but first chance he'd get he would smash open the reds and from then on I was done for.

Poor David has suspect stamina, an ineffectual jab, a chin on loan from Pele Reid and confidence lower than a limbo dancer's ball bag. Anyone he subsequently faces knows all this. And he must be grimly aware they know it.

I'd fancy Skelton to gain revenge on him now.
jamesmcdonnell
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by jamesmcdonnell »

deadpan wrote:I used to play snooker with a mate who was much better at potting than me. I'd earnestly try to play safety shots like I had a condom on my cue but first chance he'd get he would smash open the reds and from then on I was done for.

Poor David has suspect stamina, an ineffectual jab, a chin on loan from Pele Reid and confidence lower than a limbo dancer's ball bag. Anyone he subsequently faces knows all this. And he must be grimly aware they know it.

I'd fancy Skelton to gain revenge on him now.

Hahaha, very funny - and true as well.
mike john
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by mike john »

Ezzard wrote:Price hasn't taken too much punishment. He has to throw the dice in his fights from now on. A poor man's tommy hearns in his post Iran barley years was still a fighter we all wanted to watch.
which is why its the right time to retire
jamesmcdonnell
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by jamesmcdonnell »

mike john wrote:
Ezzard wrote:Price hasn't taken too much punishment. He has to throw the dice in his fights from now on. A poor man's tommy hearns in his post Iran barley years was still a fighter we all wanted to watch.
which is why its the right time to retire
Agreed - why wait for him to get clubbed into submission another 2-3 more times?
Ezzard
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Re: Will Price retire or not?

Post by Ezzard »

Fair points. I guess selfishly I don't want him to retire. And I believe his right hand is a lottery winner. He needs to turn up and throw it.

He could still earn a big money fight. Maybe go after hughie fury and spark some vendetta.
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