"Hello and welcome to the 2016 Olympics, where nearly half the athletes have agreed to do some voluntary testing".
Olympics are amateur sports. I wasn't clear but I specifically mean professional sports (hence my comments on earning wages hint hint).
i don't see any scenario whatsoever where by fighters agreeing themselves (and paying for) drug regulations is anything but a complete and total farce, the laughing stock of the sporting world, and a situation created by the laughable way in which boxing is run through various org's & promoters.
"Hello and welcome to the 2016 Olympics, where nearly half the athletes have agreed to do some voluntary testing".
Olympics are amateur sports. I wasn't clear but I specifically mean professional sports (hence my comments on earning wages hint hint).
Is the Olympics really amateur any more? The line has become extremely blurred.
Though they don't get paid for being at the event, the publicity of winning an event, especially in athletics, is worth many tens of thounsands, or in some cases millions of pounds.
"Hello and welcome to the 2016 Olympics, where nearly half the athletes have agreed to do some voluntary testing".
Olympics are amateur sports. I wasn't clear but I specifically mean professional sports (hence my comments on earning wages hint hint).
i don't see any scenario whatsoever where by fighters agreeing themselves (and paying for) drug regulations is anything but a complete and total farce, the laughing stock of the sporting world, and a situation created by the laughable way in which boxing is run through various org's & promoters.
Then look harder.
Boxing isn't a laughing stock. And allowing athletes to increase their abilities (while allowing for faster healing and in some cases longer careers) is anything but farcical.
"Hello and welcome to the 2016 Olympics, where nearly half the athletes have agreed to do some voluntary testing".
Olympics are amateur sports. I wasn't clear but I specifically mean professional sports (hence my comments on earning wages hint hint).
Is the Olympics really amateur any more? The line has become extremely blurred.
Though they don't get paid for being at the event, the publicity of winning an event, especially in athletics, is worth many tens of thounsands, or in some cases millions of pounds.
I look at amateur more as a status these days. I've been paid for amateur fights. Heck I've fought on cards where we all got paid. Strongman, the sport I currently compete in, offers cash prizes to amateurs.
Not all Olympic sports are amateur anymore, and what was that comment about cigarettes being illegal by the Pom, I think he is smoking the illegal type
One of the biggest area and by far the least tested (if at all) are high school sports. Young kids see what kind of advantage it can get them, for possibly a scholarship for college. It comes down to what parents have low enough morals and high enough bank account to help them achieve their goals. If you have been around youth sports, a lot of parents would do anything to help their kid be the star, as most seem to re-live their kids competition though themselves, probably because they rode the pine when they were young.
Like it or not, professional sports athletes are role models for our youth, whether good or bad. We are sending the wrong message to them. There have been several pro-athletes that have died from it over the years. Sure there are peds that are probably not too harmful, but all can be harmful to the opponent in boxing.
I see a very simple solution: Lifetime ban if you are caught, period. If they want it to stop, they can make the penalty harsh. The fact is, most don't want it to stop, which is sad. $$$ drives everything.
Badhusker wrote:One of the biggest area and by far the least tested (if at all) are high school sports. Young kids see what kind of advantage it can get them, for possibly a scholarship for college. It comes down to what parents have low enough morals and high enough bank account to help them achieve their goals. If you have been around youth sports, a lot of parents would do anything to help their kid be the star, as most seem to re-live their kids competition though themselves, probably because they rode the pine when they were young.
Like it or not, professional sports athletes are role models for our youth, whether good or bad. We are sending the wrong message to them. There have been several pro-athletes that have died from it over the years. Sure there are peds that are probably not too harmful, but all can be harmful to the opponent in boxing.
I see a very simple solution: Lifetime ban if you are caught, period. If they want it to stop, they can make the penalty harsh. The fact is, most don't want it to stop, which is sad. $$$ drives everything.
Yes apparently there's deep suspicions about the Jamaican schools championships, given that there's been absolutely bugger all testing going on and the lucrative scholarships that are on offer.
I'm all for the testing but more recently I'm questioning why.
Reason is testing for drugs among other things is to make sure neither fighter has an advantage over another I would have thought.
Then why do we still weigh in 24 hours before a fight ?
I think its more than fair to say that its commonplace for one fighter to have a weight advantage over his opponent due to the weight put on over night, it make no sense and hardly any of the time are the boxers even close to the weight limit they're supposed to be boxing at.
In many cases one fighter can outweigh his opponent by anywhere in the region of 10-15 pounds.
I don't get it.
Badhusker wrote:One of the biggest area and by far the least tested (if at all) are high school sports. Young kids see what kind of advantage it can get them, for possibly a scholarship for college. It comes down to what parents have low enough morals and high enough bank account to help them achieve their goals. If you have been around youth sports, a lot of parents would do anything to help their kid be the star, as most seem to re-live their kids competition though themselves, probably because they rode the pine when they were young.
Like it or not, professional sports athletes are role models for our youth, whether good or bad. We are sending the wrong message to them. There have been several pro-athletes that have died from it over the years. Sure there are peds that are probably not too harmful, but all can be harmful to the opponent in boxing.
I see a very simple solution: Lifetime ban if you are caught, period. If they want it to stop, they can make the penalty harsh. The fact is, most don't want it to stop, which is sad. $$$ drives everything.
Yes apparently there's deep suspicions about the Jamaican schools championships, given that there's been absolutely bugger all testing going on and the lucrative scholarships that are on offer.
I guess I missed your obviously sarcastic post. I am mainly talking about the youth in the U.S., but it does apply to youth worldwide in most ways. This issue obviously doesn't matter to most that don't have kids, or have kids that are too old to matter. (or, to the stupid people out there)
Badhusker wrote:
I guess I missed your obviously sarcastic post. I am mainly talking about the youth in the U.S., but it does apply to youth worldwide in most ways. This issue obviously doesn't matter to most that don't have kids, or have kids that are too old to matter. (or, to the stupid people out there)
Kids on drugs is a very serious problem. Professional athletes on drugs should not be.
Anyone under age (21 would be best) or amateur caught using drugs should be banned from performing at the next level of that sport. High school and younger athletes would be reported to NCAA and never be allowed to play, and NCAA athletes would not be allowed to turn pro.
Grown ass men and women should be able to make their own decisions.
I think you are missing an important point. Lets just talk pros then. There is a reason PEDS are illegal. It is for two reasons. One is the danger to the one putting it in their bodies, and the other is the damage it can do to their opponents.
Badhusker wrote:I think you are missing an important point. Lets just talk pros then. There is a reason PEDS are illegal. It is for two reasons. One is the danger to the one putting it in their bodies, and the other is the damage it can do to their opponents.
Sports are inherently dangerous. PED's can be safely taken, and they can be abused. Education is the difference.
PED's allow athletes to be a better version of themselves. That's all. It's a media concoction that legality would suddenly turn athletes into one punch killers. Look at high level boxers and mixed martial artists getting busted for PED's; how many of them seriously damaged and maimed opponents? Look at a fight like flabby boxer John McDermott vs muscled juice head Larry O. People will continue to use them. It's their JOB to be the best they can. Why limit them?
Badhusker wrote:One of the biggest area and by far the least tested (if at all) are high school sports. Young kids see what kind of advantage it can get them, for possibly a scholarship for college. It comes down to what parents have low enough morals and high enough bank account to help them achieve their goals. If you have been around youth sports, a lot of parents would do anything to help their kid be the star, as most seem to re-live their kids competition though themselves, probably because they rode the pine when they were young.
Like it or not, professional sports athletes are role models for our youth, whether good or bad. We are sending the wrong message to them. There have been several pro-athletes that have died from it over the years. Sure there are peds that are probably not too harmful, but all can be harmful to the opponent in boxing.
I see a very simple solution: Lifetime ban if you are caught, period. If they want it to stop, they can make the penalty harsh. The fact is, most don't want it to stop, which is sad. $$$ drives everything.
Yes apparently there's deep suspicions about the Jamaican schools championships, given that there's been absolutely bugger all testing going on and the lucrative scholarships that are on offer.
I guess I missed your obviously sarcastic post. I am mainly talking about the youth in the U.S., but it does apply to youth worldwide in most ways. This issue obviously doesn't matter to most that don't have kids, or have kids that are too old to matter. (or, to the stupid people out there)
Sarcastic....moi?
But seriously, there's nothing sarcastic in that post dude.
