British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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1. (2.) Kell Brook
2. (3.) Carl Frampton
3. (4.) Amir Khan
4. (5.) James DeGale
5. (13.) Scott Quigg
6. (6.) Jamie McDonnell
7. (7.) Tyson Fury
8. (8.) George Groves
9. (9.) Lee Selby
10. (10.) Andy Lee (Irish)

11. (11.) Martin Murray
12. (12.) Lee Haskins
13. (14.) Ola Afolabi
14. (15.) Ricky Burns
15. (16.) Tony Bellew
16. (17.) Billy Joe Saunders
17. (18.) Liam Walsh
18. (19.) Dereck Chisora
19. (20.) Stuart Hall
20. (21.) Paul Butler

21. (22.) Chris Eubank Jr
22. (28.) Anthony Crolla
23. (23.) Paul Smith
24. (24.) Kevin Mitchell
25. (25.) Callum Smith
26. (RE.) Terry Flanagan
27. (26.) Frankie Gavin
28. (27.) Derry Mathews
29. (29.) Anthony Joshua
30. (30.) Ovill McKenzie

Out - (1.) Carl Froch
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Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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Frampton looked awful in his last fight, number 2 seems slightly generous.
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Carl Froch was the only boxer from my original list from May 2006 to have been in every single month until now.

Burns was also on that list, but had fallen out in the past.

The end of an era.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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Another good list :TU:

Bellew and Eubank Jnr are too high IMO and Crolla and Flannegan too low.
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brook no1 at last horse..........khan shud be lower....not been a champ for over 3 years now..........
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I'm not sure Groves should be above Murray. I'd like to see Groves go ten rounds with Golovkin.
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Ian1973 wrote:I'm not sure Groves should be above Murray. I'd like to see Groves go ten rounds with Golovkin.
You've got a point Ian but Murray seems to box by the numbers, he seems very tough bbut basic; Groves is a better bboxer and puncher than Martin but not as tough. Pound for pound, Groves iis a better boxer than Martin.
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Boxerbeetle wrote:Frampton looked awful in his last fight, number 2 seems slightly generous.
He didn't look great, but he still won about 10 rounds.

I don't move fighters down for unimpressive wins, but his position is a fair bit weaker than it was.
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Jamie McDonnell has won the IBF, WBA and possibly the WBO if Kameda wasn't stripped over in America..

When I see 'fashionable' names above him like Frampton (who looked terrible last time out) I think it's a real shame.

Unbeaten Kameda is better than most people's wins in that line up above him.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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palooka wrote:Another good list :TU:
:TU:
palooka wrote:Bellew and Eubank Jnr are too high IMO and Crolla and Flannegan too low.
Bellew will probably start moving down soon if he doesn't fight someone decent. He was a world level light heavyweight, but it's not clear how close to that level he is at cruiserweight.

Maybe Eubank Jr is a little high considering his shallow resume, but he looked very good in his last fight and the 2nd half of the Saunders fight. Hopefully he can get back in the ring soon and justify his position.

Crolla could be higher, if he had got the official decision I probably would have moved him up another couple of places.

Flanagan's win was not satisfying, so I didn't feel I could re-enter him any higher than I did.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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Horse wrote:
palooka wrote:Another good list :TU:
:TU:
palooka wrote:Bellew and Eubank Jnr are too high IMO and Crolla and Flannegan too low.
Bellew will probably start moving down soon if he doesn't fight someone decent. He was a world level light heavyweight, but it's not clear how close to that level he is at cruiserweight.

Maybe Eubank Jr is a little high considering his shallow resume, but he looked very good in his last fight and the 2nd half of the Saunders fight. Hopefully he can get back in the ring soon and justify his position.

Crolla could be higher, if he had got the official decision I probably would have moved him up another couple of places.

Flanagan's win was not satisfying, so I didn't feel I could re-enter him any higher than I did.
Thanks for the explanation :TU: I've a feeling Terry will be really high in the list in the next 6 months.
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Lot of depth in British boxing currently
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los2 wrote:brook no1 at last horse..........
:TU:
los2 wrote:khan shud be lower....not been a champ for over 3 years now..........
He's had some good wins recently though, so I think he deserves a high ranking.
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Horse wrote:Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
Clearly not. :shame:
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Ian1973 wrote:I'm not sure Groves should be above Murray. I'd like to see Groves go ten rounds with Golovkin.
I'd like to see Groves spark Golovkin senseless.

Groves and Murray are in the same weight division now, so maybe they'll fight. At the moment I'd favour Groves.
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G0mez wrote:Jamie McDonnell has won the IBF, WBA and possibly the WBO if Kameda wasn't stripped over in America..

When I see 'fashionable' names above him like Frampton (who looked terrible last time out) I think it's a real shame.

Unbeaten Kameda is better than most people's wins in that line up above him.
McDonnell goes about 2 years between getting big wins and he often looks fairly ordinary against lackluster opposition.

His fight with Kameda was very close and I scored it a draw, so I don't think that he deserves to be above Frampton.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Horse wrote:Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
Clearly not. :shame:
Donkey has always been the same; he is an absolute idiot; he is also one of the most hypocritical posters on here eeeeeawwwww eeeeawwww
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taffytoon wrote:he is also one of the most hypocritical posters on here
:shame: I'm the World Heavyweight Champion of BoxRec Hypocrisy
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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Horse wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Frampton looked awful in his last fight, number 2 seems slightly generous.
He didn't look great, but he still won about 10 rounds.

I don't move fighters down for unimpressive wins, but his position is a fair bit weaker than it was.
:lol: consistently inconsistent
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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Horse wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Frampton looked awful in his last fight, number 2 seems slightly generous.
He didn't look great, but he still won about 10 rounds.

I don't move fighters down for unimpressive wins, but his position is a fair bit weaker than it was.
Horse wrote:Why wouldn't their performance in a fight effect the ranking of a fighter?
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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Brook vs. Khan
Frampton vs. Quigg
Degale vs. Groves 2
McDonnell vs. Haskins 2
Fury vs. Joshua
Burns vs. Crolla/Mitchell
Afolabi vs. Bellew
Murray vs. Smiths
Flanaghan vs. Matthews

Do any of these fights happen in the next 12 months?
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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Burns is a big lightweight and Selby a featherweight so not much chance of that one.

I'd like to see Afolabi v Bellew.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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How is Paul Smith higher than Terry Flanagan and Kevin Micthell ? Smiths bests wins are Dodson and Quigley ( which was debatable) at domestic level and that was a few years ago.

Huge respect for the balls he shown against Abraham both fights but he did not get the win. In fact his brother should definitely be higher than him too as Rebrasses is better than any of his older brothers wins.

Others for me McDonnell over quigg I would have Lee and Selby above Groves and Saunders above Bellew.
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Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2015

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Horse really rates the Abraham fights....even moved Smith up after the convincing rematch loss.
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