Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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crusader wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u10VAGVQsGE

Tupou was stopped about a minute into the first following a left hook-right cross combo from Parker and lay motionless on the canvas. Replays show that the left hook seemed to miss and the right hand landed only as a glancing punch. It did land high on the head but I've never seen a boxer knocked out cold like that from such an innocuous looking punch.
Well we've got Malik Scott and Paul Briggs to go on, but I think JP did something to rattle his brain stem, because I don't believe Bowie is a good enough actor to land face first with his arms at his side, when his career is on the line.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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Yeah a bit suspect, TAB were paying (Parker win by) $3 for a KO within first three rounds. Some one made some money :TU: .
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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I was skeptical, but watch it in slow-motion, frame-by-frame: Parker's right hand
lands on or near Tupou's right temple - incredibly rare shot. Real.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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Cutman Scabbers wrote:I was skeptical, but watch it in slow-motion, frame-by-frame: Parker's right hand
lands on or near Tupou's right temple - incredibly rare shot. Real.
Have done and agree
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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I was not convinced with that was a clean win by parker... Call me whatever ya want or say " let's see you take a shot by Joseph parker to the head" but looking at that replay IMO and I say again IN MY OPINION it felt like Tupou wasn't touched hard enough and he dived that's just my MY OPINION don't shit ya pants over it p.s I'm entitled to mine let me hear yours
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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Watch it front on, about the third replay from the official footage I think. Tupou knows he needs to be aggressive early or he won't win it. He takes some crazy aggressive chances. When the KO happens, both guys are flying in at full speed, Parkers hand connects solidly with top on tupou's head and afterwards deflects upwards. A simple understanding of physics tells me the punch connected and the guy that received it should be in trouble... After a review or two, not even slightly controversial.....

Besides - why does a guy lose 20pounds+, enlist the help of Australia's 3 top HWs as sparring partners, all under the guidance of Australia's most respected trainer, to take a dive in seriously embarrassing time... There's no sense to that argument....
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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The more I watch it the fewer doubts I have about it's legitimacy. Tupou was hit in a vulnerable spot by a good puncher, and he's not someone who showed a particularly strong chin in past bouts. It would also have to be one of the best acting jobs I seen, as he fell just as boxers have when they've clearly been knocked out cold by much harder looking blows.

I'm very excited about Parker. He's great to watch, has some of the fastest hands in the division to complement his KO power, and is willing to let big punches go. He's shown some holes defensively and has been hurt, but that just makes him more enjoyable to watch in my view and of course he's a baby in HW terms, so he has ample time to improve.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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Joseph Parker says he landed to the temple and it connected real well >>>

"We knew he was going to come for it," Parker said. "He wasn't going to try to box me. I have a height and reach advantage and I knew he was going to come strong and we were prepared for it."

He added: "I took the opportunity and threw an overhand right which landed on his temple. I felt it connected real well and when I looked down he was on the ground.

"It only went one round and we were prepared to go 12, but we're happy with the victory.

"We prepared well. We worked on my defence but we didn't get a lot of rounds to show it."

Parker's trainer Kevin Barry said: "I still go back to two and a half years ago when the media and some people in NZ said Joseph Parker can't punch. I think everyone knows now that he hits as hard as any heavyweight in the world."

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/a...ectid=11490655
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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dive or no dive , this was a mismatch and a train wreck waiting to happen .... mercifully it's over and whats worse the "controversy" amongst the general public .... unfortunate is the word .
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Rogue wrote:dive or no dive , this was a mismatch and a train wreck waiting to happen .... mercifully it's over and whats worse the "controversy" amongst the general public .... unfortunate is the word .
It seems every time a heavyweight gets stopped by a blow that doesn't land flush there is someone pushing the angle he took a dive. These guys are 220 pounds plus. Spend their lives continually smashing bags and people and as a result learn to hit fooking hard. They don't always need to hit you flush with their sledgehammers to stop you.

If there is any controversy, and I haven't seen any yet other than on forums where people like to create controversy, it won't last long.
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Like a Boss wrote:
Rogue wrote:dive or no dive , this was a mismatch and a train wreck waiting to happen .... mercifully it's over and whats worse the "controversy" amongst the general public .... unfortunate is the word .
It seems every time a heavyweight gets stopped by a blow that doesn't land flush there is someone pushing the angle he took a dive. These guys are 220 pounds plus. Spend their lives continually smashing bags and people and as a result learn to hit fooking hard. They don't always need to hit you flush with their sledgehammers to stop you.

If there is any controversy, and I haven't seen any yet other than on forums where people like to create controversy, it won't last long.
well the boxing crowd will understand that but no the "general public" at large .... the mainstream media won;t help , so as said before dive or no dive -- this was mismatch and a disaster waiting to happen .... hoping that Bowie is ok and there is no lasting damage from 1. the "punch" and 2. contact with the canvas .... so , mercifully this is the end of that
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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Same as the 2nd Liston versus Clay bout, which also had little duration.

You had to look hard and close to see to see that KO punch, but it was there.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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mismatch?

settle down. its boxing, it can happen sometimes u know. if they fought again it would not surprise me if Bowie won.
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It was a mismatch anyway. Parker's world class Bowie is just a journeyman. I haven't seen it yet. Did Parker say Tupou dogged it and wouldn't get payed a cent? Any DVD's being waved about today?
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Rogue wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
Rogue wrote:dive or no dive , this was a mismatch and a train wreck waiting to happen .... mercifully it's over and whats worse the "controversy" amongst the general public .... unfortunate is the word .
It seems every time a heavyweight gets stopped by a blow that doesn't land flush there is someone pushing the angle he took a dive. These guys are 220 pounds plus. Spend their lives continually smashing bags and people and as a result learn to hit fooking hard. They don't always need to hit you flush with their sledgehammers to stop you.

If there is any controversy, and I haven't seen any yet other than on forums where people like to create controversy, it won't last long.
well the boxing crowd will understand that but no the "general public" at large .... the mainstream media won;t help , so as said before dive or no dive -- this was mismatch and a disaster waiting to happen .... hoping that Bowie is ok and there is no lasting damage from 1. the "punch" and 2. contact with the canvas .... so , mercifully this is the end of that
If the KO gets extra coverage than it otherwise might have it will only ensure more people get to know who Joseph Parker is.
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do u have to do that to every topic on here?

seriously, let it go dude.

for the rest on here, if parker and Joshua keep winning, I think this is a fight that should become the focus for a future heavyweight event. the 2 teams should be talking it up.

I'd have to toss a coin to predict a winner at this stage though.
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buster007 wrote:do u have to do that to every topic on here?

seriously, let it go dude.

for the rest on here, if parker and Joshua keep winning, I think this is a fight that should become the focus for a future heavyweight event. the 2 teams should be talking it up.

I'd have to toss a coin to predict a winner at this stage though.
Parker vs Joshua is really shaping as the heavyweight fight of the future. Wonder how long we will have to wait for it and what will take place in between? Plenty to look forward to in the heavyweight ranks.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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DA GOOSE wrote:It was a mismatch anyway. Parker's world class Bowie is just a journeyman. I haven't seen it yet. Did Parker say Tupou dogged it and wouldn't get payed a cent? Any DVD's being waved about today?
precisely the point .... it is what it is .... Parker's "pathway" is carefully mapped , well which prospects isn't... this just looked like a rolled up pan cake on the road than a speed bump as it was suggested and marketed .... anyhow, moving on now .... (although main stream press will dog it all day until the next "opponent" ..... a big, well rounded fighter next is promised : maybe Riddick Bowe? or how about Evander Holyfield? ) just saying .... that's "bawxing" for you
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Rogue wrote:
DA GOOSE wrote:It was a mismatch anyway. Parker's world class Bowie is just a journeyman. I haven't seen it yet. Did Parker say Tupou dogged it and wouldn't get payed a cent? Any DVD's being waved about today?
precisely the point .... it is what it is .... Parker's "pathway" is carefully mapped , well which prospects isn't... this just looked like a rolled up pan cake on the road than a speed bump as it was suggested and marketed .... anyhow, moving on now .... (although main stream press will dog it all day until the next "opponent" ..... a big, well rounded fighter next is promised : maybe Riddick Bowe? or how about Evander Holyfield? ) just saying .... that's "bawxing" for you
Kali Meehan is intended to be next for Parker.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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Just seen the punch it did look suss. Kali will last longer than Bowie but the result will be the same. Parker has real potential him and Anthony Joshua would be a great fight.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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Meehan has already agreed to the fight. Just a matter of getting it signed now. But there may be some impediment due to a pre-existing agreement.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-spor ... signed-off
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DA GOOSE wrote:Just seen the punch it did look suss. Kali will last longer than Bowie but the result will be the same. Parker has real potential him and Anthony Joshua would be a great fight.
agreed ...
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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convict wrote:Yeah a bit suspect, TAB were paying (Parker win by) $3 for a KO within first three rounds. Some one made some money :TU: .
Really $3 for a KO in the first 3 rounds when Bowie has never been KO'd in less than 5 by far more experienced pro's than Joseph. Not a blight on Joseph but Tupou took a dive IMO.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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Joe Parker is a beast. Getting stronger all the time. Sure hope they can get Meehan next up.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs Bowie Tupou - August 1st in NZ

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DA GOOSE wrote:
convict wrote:Yeah a bit suspect, TAB were paying (Parker win by) $3 for a KO within first three rounds. Some one made some money :TU: .
Really $3 for a KO in the first 3 rounds when Bowie has never been KO'd in less than 5 by far more experienced pro's than Joseph. Not a blight on Joseph but Tupou took a dive IMO.
DA GOOSE wrote:It was a mismatch anyway. Parker's world class Bowie is just a journeyman. I haven't seen it yet. Did Parker say Tupou dogged it and wouldn't get payed a cent? Any DVD's being waved about today?
Maybe you could do a film study between this fight and greens and give your EXPERT opinion, listen to the thud when the right lands and how loud it is, that wasn't him stamping his foot on the mat
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