Fury gets a few hundred k and is contracted to a rematch

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He !might have an accountant off the Simpsons.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:50% will go in tax, unless he's got a creative accountant.

10% for Peter might take less.

Mick Hennessy will be on 10% and maybe some of the TV revenue.

Wages for other staff, including the other trainers, cutsman, conditioner/dietician.

Insurance, flights, hotels, cars, and clothes for him and his whole entourage.

Sanctioning fees, full training camp expense.

Anything else?
Do the sanctioning body get a cut from the entire purse, or just the champions share, I thought owner the belt's owner paid a cut?

There is no 50 tax rate any more is there? Or is that just PAYE, I thought the top rate if you are self employed was 40%?
I know a fair bit about tax. My brother-in-law pays 50% tax. Fury might put it though a company, but will then have to submit accounts and pay that. Unless he joins a tax avoidance scheme, but some of those people are having to pay back the tax retrospectively.

I'm under the impression the challenger has to pay smaller sanctioning fees, but I could be wrong.
lol. no.
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You pay tax on what you have earnt AFTER deductions ,, such has managers fee , trainers fee ect ect ,, the manager and trainers pay there own tax , on what theve been paid ,,

Like others have said it depends how he's set up ,, possibly could be a company , and only recieves a directors dividend .. Lots of ways to get around what you pay in tax , IF you have a smart accountant , ,, the pollies bring in the rules to take our money , but leave enough loop holes for themselves to pay lees than we do ..

Its all about paying a good accountant .
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coneye wrote:You pay tax on what you have earnt AFTER deductions ,, such has managers fee , trainers fee ect ect ,, the manager and trainers pay there own tax , on what theve been paid ,,

Like others have said it depends how he's set up ,, possibly could be a company , and only recieves a directors dividend .. Lots of ways to get around what you pay in tax , IF you have a smart accountant , ,, the pollies bring in the rules to take our money , but leave enough loop holes for themselves to pay lees than we do ..

Its all about paying a good accountant .
Thee latest budget has made significant changes to the way dividends are taxed. These changes do not come into force until next year but they are not favourable for those who have their businesses set up that way compared to now. For now Fury will be paying approximately 41 per cent tax in real terms (corporation tax and dividend tax) on most if not all of the profits from this fight. Unless he's some sort of non-dom or has a creative expenses list, it doesn't matter how smart hiis accountant is, that's what will be paid on declared profits.
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So would you say he'll come home with a few hundred grand? I think he'll clear a bit more.
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Between 650 and 750 is my estimate from the purse depending on what the euro does between now and then. I don't know about how things are drawn up / will be drawn up in terms of the British ppv revenue though, so perhaps there'll be more to come from that.
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I think it says a lot for Fury & his team because he could've called out Wlad then knocked the fight back due to poor deal & still save face which does happen unfortunately,instead Tyson seems to have agreed to whatever they want just to get his shot, just my way of looking at it but it shows me he's confident & happy to be there. Hope he does it not because i'm a huge fan ,just because i (like most) would love a competitive hw division.
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P.s hopefully this might shut the fools up who believe Tyson views this as a "cash-out" fight. ludicrous.
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Sklar wrote:Between 650 and 750 is my estimate from the purse depending on what the euro does between now and then. I don't know about how things are drawn up / will be drawn up in terms of the British ppv revenue though, so perhaps there'll be more to come from that.
I always thought the £5m Tyson was said to be missing out on against Haye was hugely inflated.
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mickey1975 wrote:
Sklar wrote:Between 650 and 750 is my estimate from the purse depending on what the euro does between now and then. I don't know about how things are drawn up / will be drawn up in terms of the British ppv revenue though, so perhaps there'll be more to come from that.
I always thought the £5m Tyson was said to be missing out on against Haye was hugely inflated.
I don't know, that could have been a big PPV fight in the UK. Haye always brought money and attention, he and Klit apparently got $36 mill a piece when they fought.
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Nightmare Roy wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
Sklar wrote:Between 650 and 750 is my estimate from the purse depending on what the euro does between now and then. I don't know about how things are drawn up / will be drawn up in terms of the British ppv revenue though, so perhaps there'll be more to come from that.
I always thought the £5m Tyson was said to be missing out on against Haye was hugely inflated.
I don't know, that could have been a big PPV fight in the UK. Haye always brought money and attention, he and Klit apparently got $36 mill a piece when they fought.
That's a lot of money, its no wonder Haye seems ambivalent about boxing again, wasn't Haye a resident of North Cyprus at the time? Couldn't Fury so the same?
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Sklar wrote:Between 650 and 750 is my estimate from the purse depending on what the euro does between now and then. I don't know about how things are drawn up / will be drawn up in terms of the British ppv revenue though, so perhaps there'll be more to come from that.
To put that into perspective - that's well over 20 YEARS wages for the average British worker.
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expe wrote: The top rate of tax is 45% and that only applies over £150k a year, how is he managing to pay 50% tax?
Apologies, spoke to him last night he's on 45% (he rounded it up to half when he was moaning about how much tax he pays. There are allowances to come off that as well.
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No way did Haye get 36m!
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mickey1975 wrote:No way did Haye get 36m!
He negotiated a hell of a deal Mickey and the TV revenue was massive. Haye also had a belt that Wlad wanted.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:No way did Haye get 36m!
He negotiated a hell of a deal Mickey and the TV revenue was massive. Haye also had a belt that Wlad wanted.
He's lucky we didn't sue him in a class action for not trying, he got that dough under false pretenses.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:No way did Haye get 36m!
He negotiated a hell of a deal Mickey and the TV revenue was massive. Haye also had a belt that Wlad wanted.
Even with a good deal he wouldn't have got close to that much, for them to get $36m each the whole event would have had to bring in $80m+, it was a big fight but I doubt it was that big.
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He didn't get that.
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http://www.therichest.com/sports/the-to ... -all-time/

Sorry it was only 32, still not to shabby.
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Kingfield wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote: I'm under the impression the challenger has to pay smaller sanctioning fees, but I could be wrong.
lol. no.
If that's the case, who pays sanctioning for final eliminators? 50/50?
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I found all that rubbish in Dusseldorf rather depressing and boring tbh. I think even Fury finds it boring he always looks p*ssed off with it lately.
At least Klitschko can manage to turn himself out smartly and not sound so peevish.
Acts and looks the part. Until Fury does anything with him then it's all just bluster imo.
I shall endeavour to avoid further anticipated meetings in the coming months. They're supposed to do it about four more times. Give me strength :zzz:
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magwitch wrote:I found all that rubbish in Dusseldorf rather depressing and boring tbh. I think even Fury finds it boring he always looks p*ssed off with it lately.
At least Klitschko can manage to turn himself out smartly and not sound so peevish.
Acts and looks the part. Until Fury does anything with him then it's all just bluster imo.
I shall endeavour to avoid further anticipated meetings in the coming months. They're supposed to do it about four more times. Give me strength :zzz:

I can't wait, I bet there's some "comedy gold" waiting to be unleashed :salut:
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I watched the press conference not knowing Fury was going to utter the words 'this klit is getting licked' with my granddaughter within earshot. :doh:
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keithmoonhangover wrote:I watched the press conference not knowing Fury was going to utter the words 'this klit is getting licked' with my granddaughter within earshot. :doh:

You should know enough about Fury and his mouth by now not to have risked it lol
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SteveO wrote:
Sklar wrote:Between 650 and 750 is my estimate from the purse depending on what the euro does between now and then. I don't know about how things are drawn up / will be drawn up in terms of the British ppv revenue though, so perhaps there'll be more to come from that.
To put that into perspective - that's well over 20 YEARS wages for the average British worker.
They should work harder
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