Most Overrated P4P

[Tanzio]

Who is the most overrated boxer on Boxrec's top 20 P4P list? Most underrated?

1. FMJ
2. WKlit
3. 3G
4. GingerHead
5. Krusher
6. Pac
7. Cotto
8. Brook
9. Thurman
10. Lara
11. Stevenson
12. Crawford
13. Maidana
14. Danny
15. Povetkin
16. Khan
17. Porter
18. Ramming Speed
19. Frampton
20. SOGgy

[diddy]

Who is the most overrated boxer on Boxrec's top 20 P4P list? Most underrated?

1. FMJ
2. WKlit
3. 3G
4. GingerHead
5. Krusher
6. Pac
7. Cotto
8. Brook
9. Thurman
10. Lara
11. Stevenson
12. Crawford
13. Maidana
14. Danny
15. Povetkin
16. Khan
17. Porter
18. Ramming Speed
19. Frampton
20. SOGgy

Obviously #20 is most underrated. Overrated? Probably Thurman based on having no good wins.

[handsofstone]

Maidana or Khan

[ikorolev]

The whole second half except Crawford and Ward. Khan, Porter and Frampton should definitely not be on top 20.

[Tanzio]

Who is the most overrated boxer on Boxrec's top 20 P4P list? Most underrated?

1. FMJ
2. WKlit
3. 3G
4. GingerHead
5. Krusher
6. Pac
7. Cotto
8. Brook
9. Thurman
10. Lara
11. Stevenson
12. Crawford
13. Maidana
14. Danny
15. Povetkin
16. Khan
17. Porter
18. Ramming Speed
19. Frampton
20. SOGgy

Obviously #20 is most underrated. Overrated? Probably Thurman based on having no good wins.

Both decent calls. I don't know about Ward being the most overrated at the moment. He will be right up top where he belongs if has a fight of substance this decade. I think that Crawford or Danny are the most underrated.

Thurman is definitely overrated but between him, Pac, Cotto, Lara, Maidana, Khan and Frampton I would probably go with Frampton.

[Tanzio]

The whole second half except Crawford and Ward. Khan, Porter and Frampton should definitely not be on top 20.

I don't think that Danny and Povetkin are overrated.

[Andrew]

I'm British and Brook at number 8 is ridiculous Lara as well even though I felt he edged canelo who I don't think should be that high.

[tiny_acres]

The whole second half except Crawford and Ward. Khan, Porter and Frampton should definitely not be on top 20.

Crawford and Ward should both be higher.

[Ricky_]

Floyd: guy has zero offence in his old age. Felt he lost close to Pac in a fight he shutdown like all his others since signing on Sho with running and clinching. Exploites the times where clinching and slickness in defense is presently prioritised over other criteria.

Klitchko: always find it tough ranking HWs p4p. Deffo has way too much junk in his game that should see him deducted pts but his sheer arsenal of punches (particularly left hook) and how unbeatable he looks means he's a worthy top 5.

3G: p4p no1 by a distance, best mw since Hagler, potential ATG if he can get some big fights. On another level to any other fighter right now.

Canelo: jury's out. Improving all the time. 4th? A little too high.

Kovalev: tough to say. Power is simply freakish. Good boxing skill too. Beating Stevenson or a top cruiser would put him in top 5-3 territory.

Pac: starting to feel irrelevant. Even though i scored him narrow v Floyd there were no winners in that fight. Out of action now til 2016. Could maybe comeback an KO khan, badly needs an exciting match up but him & Floyd both have 1.5 feet in the retirement home and the ibhof.

Cotto: would score alot of pfp points for competing way up at mw but his cw's seriously detract from that. Still a solid top 10 imo, winner of Cotto v Canelo deserves top 4 place.

Then it starts to get crazy. Roman not on the list? He's a solid 2nd behind 3G imo.

Brook n Thurman are ridiculously high. Especially Thurman, hypejob. Crawford Lara Bradley and Ward should be insulted at keeping company doen there with Povetkin Maidana and Khan.



3G
Roman
Klitchko
Pac
Floyd
Ward
Kovalev
Cotto
Canelo
Crawford

Fringes: bradley/lara/brook

I've left out Rigo as he's not boxed this year and doesn't seem to have anything lined up but he would naturally fit in somewhere above Cotto if he were to become active and at the same level weve sen from him in 2014.

[tiny_acres]

Floyd: Felt he lost close to Pac

This line alone makes everything you said after irrelevant.

[Badhusker]

Floyd: Felt he lost close to Pac

This line alone makes everything you said after irrelevant.

[KBB]

Floyd: Felt he lost close to Pac

This line alone makes everything you said after irrelevant.

He's always been irrelevant anyway

[davie]

The whole second half except Crawford and Ward. Khan, Porter and Frampton should definitely not be on top 20.

Crawford and Ward should both be higher.

Both will be

Crawford as he progresses and continues to beat top names,
Ward when he shakes of the inactivity and actually fights someone anywhere close to him in terms of ability

But yes, I agree, in terms of ability (which is what p4p is all about) both should be higher

[CrazyHorse]

1. FMJ ... correct
2. WKlit ... couple spots too high but what ever
3. 3G ... about right
4. GingerHead ... overrated
5. Krusher --- correct, even higher would be good
6. Pac ... i aint mad
7. Cotto ... all good
8. Brook ... not even mad
9. Thurman ... a little overrataed
10. Lara ... not even mad
11. Stevenson ... GTFOH!
12. Crawford ... should be higher
13. Maidana ... overrated
14. Danny ... about right
15. Povetkin ... about right
16. Khan ... a little overrated
17. Porter ... Could be a little higher but I aint mad at cha
18. Ramming Speed ... WHO?
19. Frampton ... should be higher
20. SOGgy ... should be in top 5

[CrazyHorse]

1. FMJ ... correct
2. WKlit ... couple spots too high but what ever
3. 3G ... about right
4. GingerHead ... WAAAY overrated
5. Krusher --- correct, even higher would be good
6. Pac ... i aint mad
7. Cotto ... all good
8. Brook ... not even mad
9. Thurman ... a little overrataed
10. Lara ... not even mad
11. Stevenson ... GTFOH!
12. Crawford ... should be higher
13. Maidana ... overrated
14. Danny ... about right
15. Povetkin ... about right
16. Khan ... a little overrated
17. Porter ... Could be a little higher but I aint mad at cha
18. Ramming Speed ... WHO?
19. Frampton ... should be higher
20. SOGgy ... should be in top 5


where the EFF is Rigondeaux? P4P #2 in my books. Idgaf!!

[Ricky_]

Floyd: Felt he lost close to Pac

This line alone makes everything you said after irrelevant.

He's always been irrelevant anyway

And with 1 line i upset 3 Brut accounts. Out comes the locust. Is that some kind of high score?

[johnswan1]

Canelo overrated for what he has achieved to date.

Cotto is the most overrated fighter of the past ten years and has never been the man of any division he has campaigned in.

Thurman is yet to fight a genuine top contender in his prime and so should not be in the top 10 on perceived potential alone.

Maidana is way overrated.

Garcia should be ahead of a lot of these guys, especially the likes of Thurman. He actually has one of the most impressive CVs in the sport - Campbell-Holt-Morales-Khan-Judah-Matthysse-Herrera-Peterson-Malignaggi are a decent collection of names.

Ward should be a lot higher, Crawford too.

[Andrew]

Roman Gonzalez should be on there.

[world ranked]

Thurman best win is Guerreo should that make p4p

[tiny_acres]

Thurman best win is Guerreo should that make p4p

Yes you are right.Danny Garcia's record is far superior to Thurmans.
I also believe Crawfords is as well.

[caldo2025]

Cotto is the most overrated fighter of the past ten years and has never been the man of any division he has campaigned in.

Finally!!!! Someone with a brain. This is so right on that it should be embroidered on a tee shirt and I'd wear it ever day for a year. Everyone loves Cotto and his "incredible" career. A career that consisted of him losing every big fight he's ever been in...soundly I might add. His most noteworthy victory was over a 40 year old guy with 2 bad knees. Shane Mosely is a close 2nd in the most overrated category. He's not on the list but had to be said.

Other overrated on the list: Adonis "POS" Stevenson, Maidan (what's he doing on any list), Povetkin (bupkus), Porter (isn't he a wrestler?), Frampton (great singer in 70's).

[KBB]

And with 1 line i upset 3 Brut accounts. Out comes the locust. Is that some kind of high score?

Amazing that you consistently or is it retardedly use the same garbage everytime.

You exposed your own butthurtedness by putting your delusional belief that MP won and then go on to praise yourself thinking you upset all of us who happens to be different people who see right through your pain of accepting the loss Manny took.

You may continue being an idiot, we're all used to it.

[tiny_acres]

And with 1 line i upset 3 Brut accounts. Out comes the locust. Is that some kind of high score?

Amazing that you consistently or is it retardedly use the same garbage everytime.

You exposed your own butthurtedness by putting your delusional belief that MP won and then go on to praise yourself thinking you upset all of us who happens to be different people who see right through your pain of accepting the loss Manny took.

You may continue being an idiot, we're all used to it.

I actually get a kick out of reading his insane rantings.
He thinks he is clever but obviously lacks enough reasoning to debate an issue
without resorting to the same childish retorts.
Kind of like the politicians when losing a debate calling the other a racist.It is easier
for them to resort to these tactics then to actually have to defend their position.

Just enjoy the insanity.

[ElJefe]

Overrated:

Canelo - I love watching Canelo but I don't think he has had enough big wins to put him in the top 5.
Brook - I'm a fan of Brook, I think he'll prove himself as an elite welterweight but a win against Porter isn't enough to have him 8th p4p.
Thurman - Again a good fighter but ranking is too high considering his achievements. Best win is probably Diego Chaves.
Lara - Great skills but I'd probably have him between 10 and 13, wins over Angulo and Trout are 18 months-2 years ago now, hasn't really done much since the controversial Canelo fight.

Underrated:

Crawford - Great boxer. Undefeated 2 weight champion with wins over solid guys like Burns, Beltran and Dulorme with a big win over Gamboa. I'd have him sneaking in the top 10.
Bradley - Done enough over the years (JMM, Provo, Alexander, Peterson etc.) to still be around the top 10 imo.
Ward - Should be #2.
Rigondeaux - In terms of skill has to be top 3. Arguably has a better win in the last couple of years (Donaire) than anyone other than Floyd (Manny).

[ElJefe]

Roman Gonzalez should be on there.

Wow, forgot about Gonzalez. Add him to my underrated list.