Is Floyd Mocking Haymon?

[caldo2025]

I know that Floyd is Haymon's little brother and all but I wonder if Haymon is at all perturbed by Floyd taking this fight with Berto and using the excuse "why not, everyone else is making crap fights these days so why not me?". Floyd didn't call out Haymon or any of his fighters specifically but the PBC is pushing out the most events right now so the indictment by Floyd has cling to Haymon and his product in some way. This fight announcement comes on the heels of a putrid title defense of Al Haymon's Keith Thurman and Luis Collazo.

The argument about Berto not deserving this shot at Floyd is already a tired topic and not one i care to comment on. The real issue is matchmaking in the sport of Boxing these days. Boxing is a copycat sport like no other. Floyd's been fighting top talent for years now and had to sit back watching these horrible contests being made so why can't he make a bad fight too? It's not a great fad to have hit the sport and when your sports best athlete embraces it, you've got issues.

[Badhusker]

I don't think he is mocking Haymon....I just don't see any reason why he would. Haymon is just his advisor, and has no control over who Floyd fights unlike most that he has. I think Floyd picked Berto for reasons only he really knows. Floyd picking a guy that is one of Khan's stablemates was more to get under Khan's skin than anything.

[Ezzard]

Which top talent? Ortiz? Grandpa Moseley? Guys who were great at featherweight? The limited Maidana, twice? Guerrero? Good fighters, yes...but Berto fits right in with them.

[Badhusker]

Which top talent? Ortiz? Grandpa Moseley? Guys who were great at featherweight? The limited Maidana, twice? Guerrero? Good fighters, yes...but Berto fits right in with them.

At the time they were top talent. Ortiz just beat Berto, who was undefeated and a champ for two years. Mosley was the #1 ranked Welterweight behind Floyd, and was turned down by Roach and Pacquaio, as "Too good of a fighter" as Roach put it. Grandpa Mosley was also 2 years younger than Floyd is right now. Guerrero had also just beat Berto and one other, and had not lost in 7 or 8 years. Maidana had shown tremendous improvement after moving up to 147 with his new trainer, and had KO'd Soto-Karass, KO'd Lopez, and beat the hell out of Broner.

So yeah they are "good" fighters that were top talents at the time Floyd fought them. Same goes for Hatton, who was unbeaten, and favored by many. JMM was the #2pfp guy when Floyd fought him, and gave Pac fits. You forgot to mention Cotto, Canelo, and Pacquaio.

Truth be told, Floyd has fought more top talent than any other guy has in recent years. Its easy to look at where they are now and say they are so-so guys, but at the time they were at a high level.

[Ezzard]

Depends how you want to define it.

They were all good fighters.

Mosley had fought twice in 2 and a half years and was a pale imitation of the fighter he had been. Cotto would have been a great fight around 2007-2008 before he had his teeth pulled out but it’s nice to see Cotto having a revival now.

Ortiz was decent, no more. Same for Ghost. They were all moving up. Marquez hasn’t beaten a top natural welter. Hatton was forced to move up. Alvarez to move down.

The names look good. And the marketing was great.

He’s got a fantastic record. I agree. But it’s not early 80s Leonard by any stretch.

Berto is par for the course.

[KBB]

I know that Floyd is Haymon's little brother and all but I wonder if Haymon is at all perturbed by Floyd taking this fight with Berto and using the excuse "why not, everyone else is making crap fights these days so why not me?". Floyd didn't call out Haymon or any of his fighters specifically but the PBC is pushing out the most events right now so the indictment by Floyd has cling to Haymon and his product in some way. This fight announcement comes on the heels of a putrid title defense of Al Haymon's Keith Thurman and Luis Collazo.

The argument about Berto not deserving this shot at Floyd is already a tired topic and not one i care to comment on. The real issue is matchmaking in the sport of Boxing these days. Boxing is a copycat sport like no other. Floyd's been fighting top talent for years now and had to sit back watching these horrible contests being made so why can't he make a bad fight too? It's not a great fad to have hit the sport and when your sports best athlete embraces it, you've got issues.

Why is this fight such a big deal? It's a buddy fight plain and simple, if Haymon knew there was going to be issues between CBS/SHOWTIME and himself do you honestly believe that this bout would be still taking place?

Floyd has permission by the networks to do his buddy fight that's all there is to this, no need to make a bigger deal of this crap fight than already been made.

[IKSRTFO]

I know that Floyd is Haymon's little brother and all but I wonder if Haymon is at all perturbed by Floyd taking this fight with Berto and using the excuse "why not, everyone else is making crap fights these days so why not me?". Floyd didn't call out Haymon or any of his fighters specifically but the PBC is pushing out the most events right now so the indictment by Floyd has cling to Haymon and his product in some way. This fight announcement comes on the heels of a putrid title defense of Al Haymon's Keith Thurman and Luis Collazo.

The argument about Berto not deserving this shot at Floyd is already a tired topic and not one i care to comment on. The real issue is matchmaking in the sport of Boxing these days. Boxing is a copycat sport like no other. Floyd's been fighting top talent for years now and had to sit back watching these horrible contests being made so why can't he make a bad fight too? It's not a great fad to have hit the sport and when your sports best athlete embraces it, you've got issues.

Why is this fight such a big deal? It's a buddy fight plain and simple, if Haymon knew there was going to be issues between CBS/SHOWTIME and himself do you honestly believe that this bout would be still taking place?

Floyd has permission by the networks to do his buddy fight that's all there is to this, no need to make a bigger deal of this crap fight than already been made.

It's a big deal when they're charging 64.99 /74.99 for a buddy fight and then acting like it's a discount just because it's Floyd. Name one credible buddy fight you paid that much for?

Broner is Floyd's buddy too. As much I think he sucks, I rather pay to watch Floyd Broner with the buildup than Floyd Berto

[Badhusker]

Why this is being referred to as a "Buddy Fight" is beyond me. They have serious dislike for each other.

I think this fight struggles to hit the 500K mark, unless the under-card is phenomenal.

[punchoutsb]

Why this is being referred to as a "Buddy Fight" is beyond me. They have serious dislike for each other.

I think this fight struggles to hit the 500K mark, unless the under-card is phenomenal.

It's simply the newest spin from a lot of Floyd's worshipers trying to defend him when he needs no defense.

He wanted an easy fight, so he took him. Good for him!

[caldo2025]

Why is this fight such a big deal? It's a buddy fight plain and simple, if Haymon knew there was going to be issues between CBS/SHOWTIME and himself do you honestly believe that this bout would be still taking place?

Floyd has permission by the networks to do his buddy fight that's all there is to this, no need to make a bigger deal of this crap fight than already been made.

It's a big deal because Floyd is encroaching in on Rocky Marciano's record and you can discount the milestone as much as you want to but it's a big deal and is important to a lot of people. When Floyd does break Rocky's record, people are going to look back at this fight with Berto and discount it and put the dreaded asterisk next to his name in the record books. I can guarantee you that Rocky never opened up at 100-1 odds with matchmakers in any of his title defenses back in the day.

100-1 odds for a PPV event in a record tying fight? This stinks to high heaven and no matter what you say or how you spin it, Floyd's legacy is going to take a beating for it and rightfully so.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

I know that Floyd is Haymon's little brother and all but I wonder if Haymon is at all perturbed by Floyd taking this fight with Berto and using the excuse "why not, everyone else is making crap fights these days so why not me?". Floyd didn't call out Haymon or any of his fighters specifically but the PBC is pushing out the most events right now so the indictment by Floyd has cling to Haymon and his product in some way. This fight announcement comes on the heels of a putrid title defense of Al Haymon's Keith Thurman and Luis Collazo.

The argument about Berto not deserving this shot at Floyd is already a tired topic and not one i care to comment on. The real issue is matchmaking in the sport of Boxing these days. Boxing is a copycat sport like no other. Floyd's been fighting top talent for years now and had to sit back watching these horrible contests being made so why can't he make a bad fight too? It's not a great fad to have hit the sport and when your sports best athlete embraces it, you've got issues.

Floyd as been fighting hand picked opponent's for year's he's been fighting guy's when he believes that they are a touch past their best or should I say when their at their least dangerous just like the Pacman and Moseley fight's they could have been made 2/3 years earlier but no not Floyd
He claims TO BE THE BEST EVER and then he INSULTS A TRUE LEGEND IN ALI..............YOU'D THINK ALI DODGED OTHER FIGHTER'S WHEN THEY WERE AT THEIR BEST NOT FLOYD......TBE WHAT A LOAD OF SH.T.
BERTO................................... WELL YOU CAN'T BEGRUDGE A MAN FROM MAKING SOME MONEY

[Tanzio]

PDF is not mocking Haymon. He is mocking his own profession. He is mocking his fans. He is mocking past generations of ATGs. He is mocking the next generation of boxers rather than give them an opportunity. He will retire with a record number of *****