Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Who are you picking??

Gotta say Paker and Joshua are being moved condifently !

Young pup vs the ageless lion
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Is anyone picking Meehan other than those associated with him?

Hasn't looked bad for a guy his age but I think he gets blown out here.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Great bit of matchmaking.

Small step up in class. Not to rushed.

Parker will win this but be good to see Meehan take him to deep waters.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Parker only fights bums or guys who are closer to their grave than they are to their prime.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Minto, Tupou, and Williams weren't bad opponents for someone at Parker's stage in my opinion. Minto was coming off a solid win and is generally a tough guy who comes to win, Tupou is the only fighter to drop Bryant Jennings and on paper looked to be somewhat of an offensive threat, and despite being relatively old and flabby Williams hasn't been stopped for 16 years and has given some good rounds to opponents like Helenius, Chagaev, and Charr.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Interesting that he's more than 2 years YOUNGER than Joshua yet seems to have, overall, the better wins over Minto, Williams and Tupuo. Talking about fighters being in the grave, that sounds a bit like Joshua's competition so far as well, 47 year old Skelton, 35 year old Airich, 39 year old Sprott, 37 year old Gavern and 35 year old Johnson.

Shame the Heavyweights don't get matched against younger guys coming through like they do sometimes in the lower weights (for example N. Inoue Vs Taguchi, T. Inoue Vs Geraldo, Tanaka Vs Hara, Higa Vs Kongfah)
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Meehan should have been WBO heavyweight champion. He was robbed against Brewster.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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If another guy falls over in the 1st round we are going to have to call Chauncy Welliver in to test this bloke. Bowie is a good name and win and all, but Welliver would take Parker the distance with ease. I suspect Meehan will fall early here and will be another good name and win. But if they really wanted the guy to have to fight some rounds they would call in Dr. Iron Chin Chauncy Welliver and not be collecting plates with cool names from the China Cabinet.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Kronkpride wrote:If another guy falls over in the 1st round we are going to have to call Chauncy Welliver in to test this bloke. Bowie is a good name and win and all, but Welliver would take Parker the distance with ease. I suspect Meehan will fall early here and will be another good name and win. But if they really wanted the guy to have to fight some rounds they would call in Dr. Iron Chin Chauncy Welliver and not be collecting plates with cool names from the China Cabinet.
Parker would bust poor old Chauncy up even worse than Browne did.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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johnswan1 wrote:Parker only fights bums or guys who are closer to their grave than they are to their prime.
Joseph Parker is a 23-year-old heavyweight, so this criticism is stupid. When Deontay Wilder was 23, he was fighting opponents whose records were 1-1, 1-2-2, 2-2-1, 6-15-1, etc.. When Povetkin was 23, he was still 2 years away from fighting his first professional bum. Minto and Meehan are not bums, Parker is fighting gatekeepers.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Lackeos wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:Parker only fights bums or guys who are closer to their grave than they are to their prime.
Joseph Parker is a 23-year-old heavyweight, so this criticism is stupid. When Deontay Wilder was 23, he was fighting opponents whose records were 1-1, 1-2-2, 2-2-1, 6-15-1, etc.. When Povetkin was 23, he was still 2 years away from fighting his first professional bum. Minto and Meehan are not bums, Parker is fighting gatekeepers.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Kronkpride wrote:If another guy falls over in the 1st round we are going to have to call Chauncy Welliver in to test this bloke. Bowie is a good name and win and all, but Welliver would take Parker the distance with ease. I suspect Meehan will fall early here and will be another good name and win. But if they really wanted the guy to have to fight some rounds they would call in Dr. Iron Chin Chauncy Welliver and not be collecting plates with cool names from the China Cabinet.
You must hate Chauncy. He is durable but a punching bag and will take a lot of punishment against Parker.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Meehan was a formidable heavyweight at his best and I agree, he was robbed of the WBO title in his fight against Brewster, but he's pretty old now and was never particularly durable. He has a puncher's chance against Parker, who will have to try hard to avoid his dangerous overhand right. Can't see this going too many rounds, I'll go with Parker via a 3rd round TKO.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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DA GOOSE wrote:
Kronkpride wrote:If another guy falls over in the 1st round we are going to have to call Chauncy Welliver in to test this bloke. Bowie is a good name and win and all, but Welliver would take Parker the distance with ease. I suspect Meehan will fall early here and will be another good name and win. But if they really wanted the guy to have to fight some rounds they would call in Dr. Iron Chin Chauncy Welliver and not be collecting plates with cool names from the China Cabinet.
You must hate Chauncy. He is durable but a punching bag and will take a lot of punishment against Parker.
You have to understand the context of Welliver's HW Career to see why this is not anything major in terms of taking punishment. At the most it is 36 tough minutes of action. But it pays well to do so in an actual match. On the other hand, Welliver has routinely signed up to be the main sparring partner for other top HW's. Spending a couple weeks at a time getting beat on by HW's for sparring money is much more of a punishing role. And then there is the reward part involved in the fight that is not involved in sparring in a top camp. If he beats Parker he takes a huge leap up and rewards follow. You have no rewards involved in being a sparring partner.

Welliver has fought well over 400 HW rounds and has never been dropped a single time. But those rounds are the minority of his career. He's literally fought thousands and thousands of rounds in sparring. And his level of competition in sparring has been as high as you can achieve in this world. Tyson, Wlad, Briggs, Povetkin, McCall, Hipp, Tua, Dokiwari, Valuev, Helenius, Huck, Whitaker, Cameron, on and on and on.

Povetkin may want to use him again for his fight with Wilder. Welliver was his main guy when he captured the title against Chagaev. That would be like 2 weeks in Russia and lots and lots of rounds, for no reward besides the money paid to be a sparring partner. That deal is a significantly worse deal than taking a fight with Parker which would pay more, have lots of reward attached to the fight, and be much less punishing. A win there would rocket Welliver back to being world ranked by the big sanctioning bodies. That reward alone is worth all the risk taking the fight. And when you have the greatest HW chin in the history of HW boxing the risks are not the same for you as other men. Chauncy Welliver could run head on into a freight train and all that would happen is the train would get derailed. Parker is not a threat to hurt him and neither is any other HW in the world. The best that any HW can hope for against Welliver is a points win or some kind of injury to occur so they can stop him. Otherwise nobody is stopping or dropping Welliver.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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If Meehan still is durable, it's the only thing that will save him from getting KOd... because he is a sitting target, slow and easy to hit. Parker should add another decent scalp on his resume
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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TheBeast wrote:If Meehan still is durable, it's the only thing that will save him from getting KOd... because he is a sitting target, slow and easy to hit. Parker should add another decent scalp on his resume
Meehan won't be able to avoid Parker. His only chance is probably a big single punch KO before he gets KOed himself.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Lets be clear here Welliver can't do that many sparring rounds he is too fat.
Seriously parker is fighting reasonable guys and looks a genuine prospect but he is not Joshua who looks the next big player in the division.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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You have to understand the context of Welliver's HW Career to see why this is not anything major in terms of taking punishment. At the most it is 36 tough minutes of action. But it pays well to do so in an actual match. On the other hand, Welliver has routinely signed up to be the main sparring partner for other top HW's. Spending a couple weeks at a time getting beat on by HW's for sparring money is much more of a punishing role. And then there is the reward part involved in the fight that is not involved in sparring in a top camp. If he beats Parker he takes a huge leap up and rewards follow. You have no rewards involved in being a sparring partner.

Welliver has fought well over 400 HW rounds and has never been dropped a single time. But those rounds are the minority of his career. He's literally fought thousands and thousands of rounds in sparring. And his level of competition in sparring has been as high as you can achieve in this world. Tyson, Wlad, Briggs, Povetkin, McCall, Hipp, Tua, Dokiwari, Valuev, Helenius, Huck, Whitaker, Cameron, on and on and on.

Povetkin may want to use him again for his fight with Wilder. Welliver was his main guy when he captured the title against Chagaev. That would be like 2 weeks in Russia and lots and lots of rounds, for no reward besides the money paid to be a sparring partner. That deal is a significantly worse deal than taking a fight with Parker which would pay more, have lots of reward attached to the fight, and be much less punishing. A win there would rocket Welliver back to being world ranked by the big sanctioning bodies. That reward alone is worth all the risk taking the fight. And when you have the greatest HW chin in the history of HW boxing the risks are not the same for you as other men. Chauncy Welliver could run head on into a freight train and all that would happen is the train would get derailed. Parker is not a threat to hurt him and neither is any other HW in the world. The best that any HW can hope for against Welliver is a points win or some kind of injury to occur so they can stop him. Otherwise nobody is stopping or dropping Welliver.
I like Chauncy, but seriously - he doesn't even train for fights anymore.
Look at his last few fights. How many punches does he throw? He's just trying to get himself brain-damaged. It's crazy
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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lowlefthand wrote:
You have to understand the context of Welliver's HW Career to see why this is not anything major in terms of taking punishment. At the most it is 36 tough minutes of action. But it pays well to do so in an actual match. On the other hand, Welliver has routinely signed up to be the main sparring partner for other top HW's. Spending a couple weeks at a time getting beat on by HW's for sparring money is much more of a punishing role. And then there is the reward part involved in the fight that is not involved in sparring in a top camp. If he beats Parker he takes a huge leap up and rewards follow. You have no rewards involved in being a sparring partner.

Welliver has fought well over 400 HW rounds and has never been dropped a single time. But those rounds are the minority of his career. He's literally fought thousands and thousands of rounds in sparring. And his level of competition in sparring has been as high as you can achieve in this world. Tyson, Wlad, Briggs, Povetkin, McCall, Hipp, Tua, Dokiwari, Valuev, Helenius, Huck, Whitaker, Cameron, on and on and on.

Povetkin may want to use him again for his fight with Wilder. Welliver was his main guy when he captured the title against Chagaev. That would be like 2 weeks in Russia and lots and lots of rounds, for no reward besides the money paid to be a sparring partner. That deal is a significantly worse deal than taking a fight with Parker which would pay more, have lots of reward attached to the fight, and be much less punishing. A win there would rocket Welliver back to being world ranked by the big sanctioning bodies. That reward alone is worth all the risk taking the fight. And when you have the greatest HW chin in the history of HW boxing the risks are not the same for you as other men. Chauncy Welliver could run head on into a freight train and all that would happen is the train would get derailed. Parker is not a threat to hurt him and neither is any other HW in the world. The best that any HW can hope for against Welliver is a points win or some kind of injury to occur so they can stop him. Otherwise nobody is stopping or dropping Welliver.
I like Chauncy, but seriously - he doesn't even train for fights anymore.
Look at his last few fights. How many punches does he throw? He's just trying to get himself brain-damaged. It's crazy
The size Welliver turns up for his fights says a lot about his application. He didn't look like he could punch a hole in a rice pudding against Lucas Browne. Browne just used him as a heavy bag round after round at his own convenience.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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at 46 I expect Meehan's reflexes are completely zero in comparison to a 23 year old kid... dangerous fight for is health... this is an example of why boxing is a blood sport...hope he does not get hurt
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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jont wrote:at 46 I expect Meehan's reflexes are completely zero in comparison to a 23 year old kid... dangerous fight for is health... this is an example of why boxing is a blood sport...hope he does not get hurt
He is 45... 8 months off 46.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Like a Boss wrote:
Lackeos wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:Parker only fights bums or guys who are closer to their grave than they are to their prime.
Joseph Parker is a 23-year-old heavyweight, so this criticism is stupid. When Deontay Wilder was 23, he was fighting opponents whose records were 1-1, 1-2-2, 2-2-1, 6-15-1, etc.. When Povetkin was 23, he was still 2 years away from fighting his first professional bum. Minto and Meehan are not bums, Parker is fighting gatekeepers.
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An Aussie 10-0 isn't quite the same as a British 10-0.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Kronkpride wrote:
DA GOOSE wrote:
Kronkpride wrote:If another guy falls over in the 1st round we are going to have to call Chauncy Welliver in to test this bloke. Bowie is a good name and win and all, but Welliver would take Parker the distance with ease. I suspect Meehan will fall early here and will be another good name and win. But if they really wanted the guy to have to fight some rounds they would call in Dr. Iron Chin Chauncy Welliver and not be collecting plates with cool names from the China Cabinet.
You must hate Chauncy. He is durable but a punching bag and will take a lot of punishment against Parker.
You have to understand the context of Welliver's HW Career to see why this is not anything major in terms of taking punishment. At the most it is 36 tough minutes of action. But it pays well to do so in an actual match. On the other hand, Welliver has routinely signed up to be the main sparring partner for other top HW's. Spending a couple weeks at a time getting beat on by HW's for sparring money is much more of a punishing role. And then there is the reward part involved in the fight that is not involved in sparring in a top camp. If he beats Parker he takes a huge leap up and rewards follow. You have no rewards involved in being a sparring partner.

Welliver has fought well over 400 HW rounds and has never been dropped a single time. But those rounds are the minority of his career. He's literally fought thousands and thousands of rounds in sparring. And his level of competition in sparring has been as high as you can achieve in this world. Tyson, Wlad, Briggs, Povetkin, McCall, Hipp, Tua, Dokiwari, Valuev, Helenius, Huck, Whitaker, Cameron, on and on and on.

Povetkin may want to use him again for his fight with Wilder. Welliver was his main guy when he captured the title against Chagaev. That would be like 2 weeks in Russia and lots and lots of rounds, for no reward besides the money paid to be a sparring partner. That deal is a significantly worse deal than taking a fight with Parker which would pay more, have lots of reward attached to the fight, and be much less punishing. A win there would rocket Welliver back to being world ranked by the big sanctioning bodies. That reward alone is worth all the risk taking the fight. And when you have the greatest HW chin in the history of HW boxing the risks are not the same for you as other men. Chauncy Welliver could run head on into a freight train and all that would happen is the train would get derailed. Parker is not a threat to hurt him and neither is any other HW in the world. The best that any HW can hope for against Welliver is a points win or some kind of injury to occur so they can stop him. Otherwise nobody is stopping or dropping Welliver.
Your fandom is so misguided. I take it Welliver has a family? He needs to start thinking about them. He shouldn't be sparring, he shouldn't be fighting. There is no reward for fighting guys like Parker because he will not win. He seems like a really good guy, and people like you should be ashamed for caring only about seeing him go more rounds of punishment.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Murphy wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
Lackeos wrote:
Joseph Parker is a 23-year-old heavyweight, so this criticism is stupid. When Deontay Wilder was 23, he was fighting opponents whose records were 1-1, 1-2-2, 2-2-1, 6-15-1, etc.. When Povetkin was 23, he was still 2 years away from fighting his first professional bum. Minto and Meehan are not bums, Parker is fighting gatekeepers.
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An Aussie 10-0 isn't quite the same as a British 10-0.
It depends entirely on who you fight.
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Re: Parker vs Meehan Oct 15

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Towers was 14-0 when Browne KOed him in 5.
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