Who's better?

[palooka]

Khan is by far the better opponent.

[Lenny Cravats]

Khan is the better of the two, though Mayweather would annihilate both.

[amwsnw]

who's better is difficult. Who will put on a more entertaining fight - Berto.
He wont run and even if he takes a belting he will give it his all.
He will take better punches and his punches will do more damage should he be able to land any (unlikely but he won't run).
funny how everyone is bagging the Floyd v Berto fight, but reckon Khan would have been ok. I think they are equal as far as deserving the fight goes.
Bradley shouldve got the fight - he deserves it.

[handsofstone]

Berto is a cheat who has done zilch since getting busted but if Floyd the anti-drug trailblazer who wants to rid the "sport of boxing" from drugs and cheats wants to give his "buddy" a fight then fvck him theres at least half a dozen fights around the corner that im looking forward to way more

Plus now that Mayweather finally fought Pacquiao,even though he dominated,his stock probably plummeted because that was the fight everyone cared about,now its done,nobody cares

British posters will recognise in football that Celtic-Rangers are 2 of the biggest clubs around but since Rangers got demoted to the bottom tier of Scottish football,nobody cares about either team really because they make each other and without them playing each other their stock plummets

[crusader]

who's better is difficult. Who will put on a more entertaining fight - Berto.
He wont run and even if he takes a belting he will give it his all.
He will take better punches and his punches will do more damage should he be able to land any (unlikely but he won't run).
funny how everyone is bagging the Floyd v Berto fight, but reckon Khan would have been ok. I think they are equal as far as deserving the fight goes.
Bradley shouldve got the fight - he deserves it.

I don't see how it's remotely funny to think that Khan's a much better choice than Berto. Berto will have two wins in four years come fight night, he's lost three of his last six with two of them being to people Floyd already drubbed, and it wasn't long ago that he was knocked out by the very limited Jesus Soto Karass--who was subsequently smashed by Thurman and outclassed by Khan victim Alexander. Since that loss Berto has only two wins, one of them being over a guy who BoxRec has at 230, was stopped early by a prospect immediately before facing Berto, and immediately prior to that decisively lost to Collazo. The other win is of course over Lopez, who though once a contender has suffered grueling stoppage loses since the Ortiz fight and went life and death with a faded ex-fringe contender shortly before facing Berto and getting stopped while ahead on the cards.

Conversely, Khan would have five wins in four years come fight night (plus an extra had he gotten the decision over Peterson in their very controversial bout), he's won five of his last six, and in the fight he didn't win he was stopped by a top fighter in Garcia rather than a much worse fighter like Karass. Since the Garcia fight he's also scored several more wins than Berto has since his last defeat, one being over a contender, recent champ, and someone who schooled Karass in Devon Alexander; another being over a recent champ who beat Provo in Chris Algieri; and a third being over someone who was coming off a win over Ortiz in Luis Collazo, a fighter routed 119-104 by Khan only to soon after give Thurman tough moments and even hurt him with body shots. The other two opponents Khan beat since losing to Garcia, Julio Diaz and Carlos Molina, are more respectable than someone like Chambers as well.

Aside from that, I think Khan clearly is better-suited to give Floyd problems, for reasons I touched on in a previous posts. You mention that Berto will be more entertaining, but I don't see him having the type of success needed for the bout to be entertaining and I think Floyd could win virtually every second of every round if he chose to. Moreover, you mention Khan running, but Floyd is typically not one to fight aggressively and if Khan were to run that could mean that he's successfully managed to get Floyd out of his comfort zone, perhaps leading to an interesting bout.

Summary:

-Berto has won twice in the last 4 years while Khan has won 5 times
-Berto is 3-3 in his last 6 while Khan is 5-1
-Berto's last loss was to Soto Karass while Khan's was to a much better Garcia
-Berto has 2 wins since his last loss while Khan has 5
-Berto's 2 wins were over Stever Chambers and Lopez, while Khan beat a stronger and larger group in Alexander, Algieri, Collazo, Diaz, and Molina
-Khan is more likely to give Floyd issues

[KBB]

I don't see how it's remotely funny to think that Khan's a much better choice than Berto. Berto will have two wins in four years come fight night, he's lost three of his last six with two of them being to people Floyd already drubbed, and it wasn't long ago that he was knocked out by the very limited Jesus Soto Karass--who was subsequently smashed by Thurman and outclassed by Khan victim Alexander. Since that loss Berto has only two wins, one of them being over a guy who BoxRec has at 230, was stopped early by a prospect immediately before facing Berto, and immediately prior to that decisively lost to Collazo. The other win is of course over Lopez, who though once a contender has suffered grueling stoppage loses since the Ortiz fight and went life and death with a faded ex-fringe contender shortly before facing Berto and getting stopped while ahead on the cards.

Conversely, Khan would have five wins in four years come fight night (plus an extra had he gotten the decision over Peterson in their very controversial bout), he's won five of his last six, and in the fight he didn't win he was stopped by a top fighter in Garcia rather than a much worse fighter like Karass. Since the Garcia fight he's also scored several more wins than Berto has since his last defeat, one being over a contender, recent champ, and someone who schooled Karass in Devon Alexander; another being over a recent champ who beat Provo in Chris Algieri; and a third being over someone who was coming off a win over Ortiz in Luis Collazo, a fighter routed 119-104 by Khan only to soon after give Thurman tough moments and even hurt him with body shots. The other two opponents Khan beat since losing to Garcia, Julio Diaz and Carlos Molina, are more respectable than someone like Chambers as well.

Aside from that, I think Khan clearly is better-suited to give Floyd problems, for reasons I touched on in a previous posts. You mention that Berto will be more entertaining, but I don't see him having the type of success needed for the bout to be entertaining and I think Floyd could win virtually every second of every round if he chose to. Moreover, you mention Khan running, but Floyd is typically not one to fight aggressively and if Khan were to run that could mean that he's successfully managed to get Floyd out of his comfort zone, perhaps leading to an interesting bout.

Summary:

-Berto has won twice in the last 4 years while Khan has won 5 times
-Berto is 3-3 in his last 6 while Khan is 5-1
-Berto's last loss was to Soto Karass while Khan's was to a much better Garcia
-Berto has 2 wins since his last loss while Khan has 5
-Berto's 2 wins were over Stever Chambers and Lopez, while Khan beat a stronger and larger group in Alexander, Algieri, Collazo, Diaz, and Molina
-Khan is more likely to give Floyd issues

The only issue Khan will give Floyd is Mayweather will be trying to figure out how to get him to stop literally running from him and how to make him fight.

Khan is such garbage, all he has is a name, he ran from Algieiri, that is all anyone needs to know about him. We already know he has a chin made of glass and that if Berto landed one punch on him that it would be lights out, at least Berto comes to fight whether he wins, loses or draw.

You can't even get Khan to stand in front of Collazo or Algieri, I have zero belief that he presents any problem for Floyd if all he is going to do is be on his bike, the fighters who give Floyd problems are those who attack/engage him, we haven't seen that in Khan in his last few fights and when he did try to engage he got KTFO by a slower, lesser puncher in Danny Garcia.

Keep believing the Khan-hype BS if you want to.

[Tanzio]

All evidence supports Khan.

FMJ apologists support his "buddy."

[digzee]

who's better is difficult. Who will put on a more entertaining fight - Berto.
He wont run and even if he takes a belting he will give it his all.
He will take better punches and his punches will do more damage should he be able to land any (unlikely but he won't run).
funny how everyone is bagging the Floyd v Berto fight, but reckon Khan would have been ok. I think they are equal as far as deserving the fight goes.
Bradley shouldve got the fight - he deserves it.

I don't see how it's remotely funny to think that Khan's a much better choice than Berto. Berto will have two wins in four years come fight night, he's lost three of his last six with two of them being to people Floyd already drubbed, and it wasn't long ago that he was knocked out by the very limited Jesus Soto Karass--who was subsequently smashed by Thurman and outclassed by Khan victim Alexander. Since that loss Berto has only two wins, one of them being over a guy who BoxRec has at 230, was stopped early by a prospect immediately before facing Berto, and immediately prior to that decisively lost to Collazo. The other win is of course over Lopez, who though once a contender has suffered grueling stoppage loses since the Ortiz fight and went life and death with a faded ex-fringe contender shortly before facing Berto and getting stopped while ahead on the cards.

Conversely, Khan would have five wins in four years come fight night (plus an extra had he gotten the decision over Peterson in their very controversial bout), he's won five of his last six, and in the fight he didn't win he was stopped by a top fighter in Garcia rather than a much worse fighter like Karass. Since the Garcia fight he's also scored several more wins than Berto has since his last defeat, one being over a contender, recent champ, and someone who schooled Karass in Devon Alexander; another being over a recent champ who beat Provo in Chris Algieri; and a third being over someone who was coming off a win over Ortiz in Luis Collazo, a fighter routed 119-104 by Khan only to soon after give Thurman tough moments and even hurt him with body shots. The other two opponents Khan beat since losing to Garcia, Julio Diaz and Carlos Molina, are more respectable than someone like Chambers as well.

Aside from that, I think Khan clearly is better-suited to give Floyd problems, for reasons I touched on in a previous posts. You mention that Berto will be more entertaining, but I don't see him having the type of success needed for the bout to be entertaining and I think Floyd could win virtually every second of every round if he chose to. Moreover, you mention Khan running, but Floyd is typically not one to fight aggressively and if Khan were to run that could mean that he's successfully managed to get Floyd out of his comfort zone, perhaps leading to an interesting bout.

Summary:

-Berto has won twice in the last 4 years while Khan has won 5 times
-Berto is 3-3 in his last 6 while Khan is 5-1
-Berto's last loss was to Soto Karass while Khan's was to a much better Garcia
-Berto has 2 wins since his last loss while Khan has 5
-Berto's 2 wins were over Stever Chambers and Lopez, while Khan beat a stronger and larger group in Alexander, Algieri, Collazo, Diaz, and Molina
-Khan is more likely to give Floyd issues

You should be banned from the Current Scene, your far too logical.

[palooka]

I don't see how it's remotely funny to think that Khan's a much better choice than Berto. Berto will have two wins in four years come fight night, he's lost three of his last six with two of them being to people Floyd already drubbed, and it wasn't long ago that he was knocked out by the very limited Jesus Soto Karass--who was subsequently smashed by Thurman and outclassed by Khan victim Alexander. Since that loss Berto has only two wins, one of them being over a guy who BoxRec has at 230, was stopped early by a prospect immediately before facing Berto, and immediately prior to that decisively lost to Collazo. The other win is of course over Lopez, who though once a contender has suffered grueling stoppage loses since the Ortiz fight and went life and death with a faded ex-fringe contender shortly before facing Berto and getting stopped while ahead on the cards.

Conversely, Khan would have five wins in four years come fight night (plus an extra had he gotten the decision over Peterson in their very controversial bout), he's won five of his last six, and in the fight he didn't win he was stopped by a top fighter in Garcia rather than a much worse fighter like Karass. Since the Garcia fight he's also scored several more wins than Berto has since his last defeat, one being over a contender, recent champ, and someone who schooled Karass in Devon Alexander; another being over a recent champ who beat Provo in Chris Algieri; and a third being over someone who was coming off a win over Ortiz in Luis Collazo, a fighter routed 119-104 by Khan only to soon after give Thurman tough moments and even hurt him with body shots. The other two opponents Khan beat since losing to Garcia, Julio Diaz and Carlos Molina, are more respectable than someone like Chambers as well.

Aside from that, I think Khan clearly is better-suited to give Floyd problems, for reasons I touched on in a previous posts. You mention that Berto will be more entertaining, but I don't see him having the type of success needed for the bout to be entertaining and I think Floyd could win virtually every second of every round if he chose to. Moreover, you mention Khan running, but Floyd is typically not one to fight aggressively and if Khan were to run that could mean that he's successfully managed to get Floyd out of his comfort zone, perhaps leading to an interesting bout.

Summary:

-Berto has won twice in the last 4 years while Khan has won 5 times
-Berto is 3-3 in his last 6 while Khan is 5-1
-Berto's last loss was to Soto Karass while Khan's was to a much better Garcia
-Berto has 2 wins since his last loss while Khan has 5
-Berto's 2 wins were over Stever Chambers and Lopez, while Khan beat a stronger and larger group in Alexander, Algieri, Collazo, Diaz, and Molina
-Khan is more likely to give Floyd issues

The only issue Khan will give Floyd is Mayweather will be trying to figure out how to get him to stop literally running from him and how to make him fight.

Khan is such garbage, all he has is a name, he ran from Algieiri, that is all anyone needs to know about him. We already know he has a chin made of glass and that if Berto landed one punch on him that it would be lights out, at least Berto comes to fight whether he wins, loses or draw.

You can't even get Khan to stand in front of Collazo or Algieri, I have zero belief that he presents any problem for Floyd if all he is going to do is be on his bike, the fighters who give Floyd problems are those who attack/engage him, we haven't seen that in Khan in his last few fights and when he did try to engage he got KTFO by a slower, lesser puncher in Danny Garcia.

Keep believing the Khan-hype BS if you want to.

How many times did Khan drop Collazo? It is Khans raiding tactics that would give Floyd some trouble, Berto will box very predictably, in straight lines and face forward - there is no doubt at all that Khan would cause Floyd some difficulty and part of that may be down to the fact he can box off the back foot and is fast enough to score and get away. Floyd is a master counter puncher but he is less effective against some styles than others, Khan has the fastest jab in the division.

[digzee]

I don't see how it's remotely funny to think that Khan's a much better choice than Berto. Berto will have two wins in four years come fight night, he's lost three of his last six with two of them being to people Floyd already drubbed, and it wasn't long ago that he was knocked out by the very limited Jesus Soto Karass--who was subsequently smashed by Thurman and outclassed by Khan victim Alexander. Since that loss Berto has only two wins, one of them being over a guy who BoxRec has at 230, was stopped early by a prospect immediately before facing Berto, and immediately prior to that decisively lost to Collazo. The other win is of course over Lopez, who though once a contender has suffered grueling stoppage loses since the Ortiz fight and went life and death with a faded ex-fringe contender shortly before facing Berto and getting stopped while ahead on the cards.

Conversely, Khan would have five wins in four years come fight night (plus an extra had he gotten the decision over Peterson in their very controversial bout), he's won five of his last six, and in the fight he didn't win he was stopped by a top fighter in Garcia rather than a much worse fighter like Karass. Since the Garcia fight he's also scored several more wins than Berto has since his last defeat, one being over a contender, recent champ, and someone who schooled Karass in Devon Alexander; another being over a recent champ who beat Provo in Chris Algieri; and a third being over someone who was coming off a win over Ortiz in Luis Collazo, a fighter routed 119-104 by Khan only to soon after give Thurman tough moments and even hurt him with body shots. The other two opponents Khan beat since losing to Garcia, Julio Diaz and Carlos Molina, are more respectable than someone like Chambers as well.

Aside from that, I think Khan clearly is better-suited to give Floyd problems, for reasons I touched on in a previous posts. You mention that Berto will be more entertaining, but I don't see him having the type of success needed for the bout to be entertaining and I think Floyd could win virtually every second of every round if he chose to. Moreover, you mention Khan running, but Floyd is typically not one to fight aggressively and if Khan were to run that could mean that he's successfully managed to get Floyd out of his comfort zone, perhaps leading to an interesting bout.

Summary:

-Berto has won twice in the last 4 years while Khan has won 5 times
-Berto is 3-3 in his last 6 while Khan is 5-1
-Berto's last loss was to Soto Karass while Khan's was to a much better Garcia
-Berto has 2 wins since his last loss while Khan has 5
-Berto's 2 wins were over Stever Chambers and Lopez, while Khan beat a stronger and larger group in Alexander, Algieri, Collazo, Diaz, and Molina
-Khan is more likely to give Floyd issues

The only issue Khan will give Floyd is Mayweather will be trying to figure out how to get him to stop literally running from him and how to make him fight.

Khan is such garbage, all he has is a name, he ran from Algieiri, that is all anyone needs to know about him. We already know he has a chin made of glass and that if Berto landed one punch on him that it would be lights out, at least Berto comes to fight whether he wins, loses or draw.

You can't even get Khan to stand in front of Collazo or Algieri, I have zero belief that he presents any problem for Floyd if all he is going to do is be on his bike, the fighters who give Floyd problems are those who attack/engage him, we haven't seen that in Khan in his last few fights and when he did try to engage he got KTFO by a slower, lesser puncher in Danny Garcia.

Keep believing the Khan-hype BS if you want to.

You have Khan in your WW top 10 but not Berto, you think Berto should get the fight though just because he'll make it more exciting, is that how every pound for pound should pick who he fights?

[punchoutsb]

Even Maidana? They've already fought you know...

I would make Berto/Khan a 50/50 fight. Khan (even if Berto would beat him) is still a better matchup against Floyd because he at least has something to offer: speed. And his major flaw (chin) wouldn't likely come in to play because Floyd is older and his hands are pretty brittle now. Berto has literally nothing to offer.

LOL to the BS so called "speed" that Khan is supposed to have; that same speed got him KO'd by fighters far slower than Floyd like Garcia and had him literally running from a featherfisted LW in Algieri.

Y'all make me laugh with all this mumbo jumbo talk of Khan having speed and supposedly having shown improvement after his win over Alexander where people on this forum were literally sucking his glove and saying how he'd beat Floyd after I told y'all he did not improve and that Devon Alexander was an easy opponent to beat because he showed no ability to adjust.

Now that we have seen Khan performing his Usain Bolt impression in his last two bouts we should know that he has no real speed and his chin is still leaky and shaky as ever plus he runs from fighters who can't even punch.

Keep blowing Khan though, it's only a matter of time before he gets put to sleep again in devastating fashion.

You do realize that speed does not equal chin, right? If you didn't know this hopefully you do know.

Also, if you can't watch his fights (however dreadful they may be) and see that he has fast hands, it's time for new prescription lenses.

Try to brush Floyd's scrotum aside before you post again. You'll see the screen better and hopefully see that I'm not saying anything against Floyd so no need to get all defensive and insulting. I'm saying Floyd is miles better than both, but he's slightly less better than Khan than he is Berto.

[palooka]

Faster fighters do sometimes get knocked out by slower men. Some of the fastest eg Meldrick Taylor and Howard Davis were knocked out; it happens.

[KBB]

You do realize that speed does not equal chin, right? If you didn't know this hopefully you do know.

Also, if you can't watch his fights (however dreadful they may be) and see that he has fast hands, it's time for new prescription lenses.

Try to brush Floyd's scrotum aside before you post again. You'll see the screen better and hopefully see that I'm not saying anything against Floyd so no need to get all defensive and insulting. I'm saying Floyd is miles better than both, but he's slightly less better than Khan than he is Berto.

Wants me to be non insulting but says the above! Personally i don't care if you insult Floyd, it isn't about that with me, but just read the last part of your sentence and tell me that you added in the wrong name in one of those spots and then everything you stated is ok with me.

Personally i don't see Khan as being all that, who cares about his so called "fast hands", dude was getting his ass handed to him at times in that bout vs Algieiri with those supposedly "fast hands".

Y'all are not going to convince me that Amir Usain Bolt Khan is this great fighter because I don't see any fight in him at all, at least Berto will get in there and exchange with you whether he gets caught or not and he gets back up if knocked down unlike pussy ass Khan.

[punchoutsb]

You do realize that speed does not equal chin, right? If you didn't know this hopefully you do know.

Also, if you can't watch his fights (however dreadful they may be) and see that he has fast hands, it's time for new prescription lenses.

Try to brush Floyd's scrotum aside before you post again. You'll see the screen better and hopefully see that I'm not saying anything against Floyd so no need to get all defensive and insulting. I'm saying Floyd is miles better than both, but he's slightly less better than Khan than he is Berto.

Wants me to be non insulting but says the above! Personally i don't care if you insult Floyd, it isn't about that with me, but just read the last part of your sentence and tell me that you added in the wrong name in one of those spots and then everything you stated is ok with me.

Personally i don't see Khan as being all that, who cares about his so called "fast hands", dude was getting his ass handed to him at times in that bout vs Algieiri with those supposedly "fast hands".

Y'all are not going to convince me that Amir Usain Bolt Khan is this great fighter because I don't see any fight in him at all, at least Berto will get in there and exchange with you whether he gets caught or not and he gets back up if knocked down unlike pussy ass Khan.

I never said Khan is a great fighter. I said he has fast hands.

And no, I didn't add the wrong name. Khan is a fragile world class boxer/runner. Berto is a gatekeeper that got lucky.

[KBB]

I never said Khan is a great fighter. I said he has fast hands.

And no, I didn't add the wrong name. Khan is a fragile world class boxer/runner. Berto is a gatekeeper that got lucky.

Yeah because fast hands is all one needs to win fights, right?? Toilet flushes

[punchoutsb]

I never said Khan is a great fighter. I said he has fast hands.

And no, I didn't add the wrong name. Khan is a fragile world class boxer/runner. Berto is a gatekeeper that got lucky.

Yeah because fast hands is all one needs to win fights, right?? Toilet flushes

No dumbass. I mean, I've been trying to be cordial but my goodness you are literally retarted.

Where did I say fast hands was all needed to win a fight? I said between Berto and Khan, Khans speed is the only thing that would come close to causing Floyd any trouble at all. Can you legitimately not read?

Nice touch with the toilet flush though since all your posts are such utter shite.

[KBB]

No dumbass. I mean, I've been trying to be cordial but my goodness you are literally retarted.

Where did I say fast hands was all needed to win a fight? I said between Berto and Khan, Khans speed is the only thing that would come close to causing Floyd any trouble at all. Can you legitimately not read?

Nice touch with the toilet flush though since all your posts are such utter shite.

LOL to you claiming that you were trying to be cordial when you hurl insults about nutsacks in my face and whatnot, if that is your idea of being cordial then you are the most insulting asshole on this forum and the toilet flush was because you are seemingly a piece of sh*t for being that way.

Fast hands equals speed, does it not in the way that you are using it?? It's one in the same, so if you are having a hard time distinguishing between the two then I personally would advise you to go get an online dictionary to help you decipher whether or not there are any differences because I don't see any.

Keep your fake cordiality to yourself because as far as everyone on this forum can tell from reading the crap you wrote that you are the one who is full of sh*t.

[punchoutsb]

LOL to you claiming that you were trying to be cordial when you hurl insults about nutsacks in my face and whatnot, if that is your idea of being cordial then you are the most insulting asshole on this forum and the toilet flush was because you are seemingly a piece of sh*t for being that way.

Fast hands equals speed, does it not in the way that you are using it?? It's one in the same, so if you are having a hard time distinguishing between the two then I personally would advise you to go get an online dictionary to help you decipher whether or not there are any differences because I don't see any.

Keep your fake cordiality to yourself because as far as everyone on this forum can tell from reading the crap you wrote that you are the one who is full of sh*t.

Fast hands equals hand speed, yes. Now explain how am I not distinguishing them? At this point I have literally zero clue what point you are even trying to make.

Khan is faster than Berto, who has absolutely nothing that could even remotely trouble Floyd. This point offends you for some reason, but it doesn't change anything.

And my cordiality was quite real, but you come on screaming my points are BS and you're LOLing and crap like that and so I responded in kind. Your posts are always so confrontational and you think everyone is out to get you and Floyd. Grow up.

[Ricky_]

Berto is completely shot. Ortiz beat the boxer out of him. Guerrero whupped his ass. Karass knocked him tfo. Josesito Lopez was beating him through 5 before Berto found a stoppage.

Berto is shot and has no wins of note.

It also has the makings of a boring fight (typical Floyd fight). Berto will walk forward, predictable, Floyd will potshot some powderpuff, sidestep on the ropes, and clinch. Berto will get visibly annoyed at not being able to land, which in FloydLand is the same as having a broken nose and smashed cheekbone, resulting in a wide Fliyd UD from Dave Moretti and co.

Khan on the otherhand is significantly more talented, a legit top 10 in the division and still a good win for any welterweight.

I'm confident Khans next fight will be a huge event vs either Brook or Pacquaio.

[KBB]

Fast hands equals hand speed, yes. Now explain how am I not distinguishing them? At this point I have literally zero clue what point you are even trying to make.

Khan is faster than Berto, who has absolutely nothing that could even remotely trouble Floyd. This point offends you for some reason, but it doesn't change anything.

And my cordiality was quite real, but you come on screaming my points are BS and you're LOLing and crap like that and so I responded in kind. Your posts are always so confrontational and you think everyone is out to get you and Floyd. Grow up.

You said this: I never said Khan is a great fighter. I said he has fast hands, and this: I would make Berto/Khan a 50/50 fight. Khan (even if Berto would beat him) is still a better matchup against Floyd because he at least has something to offer: speed.

To which I replied sarcastically: Yeah because fast hands is all one needs to win fights, right??

You were implying that Khan had the advantage better than Berto because of his speed, that was your point. I actually believe that Khan's speed isn't what you are making it out to be if slower punchers like Danny Garcia and Algieri could catch him often, in other words, his speed won't be enough to trouble Floyd like you somehow think it is.

I believe that fighters who attack Floyd have more success regardless of their speed, when have you ever seen a fighter with speed beat Floyd from the outside (Amir is not an inside fighter so he has no advantage there) and we all know that Khan is not faster than Floyd either inside or outside.

While Berto is no ring scientist and he doesn't have to be either, it is proven that all you have to do is be ultra-aggressive and you will have some success than trying to sit outside and outspeed the speedster.

We will just have to agree to disagree because I absolutely see nothing in Khan who will be on his bike that says to me he even remotely has a chance to beat Floyd whereas with Berto he does have decent punching power and he is aggressive and will continue to fight not run like Amir and therefore present a better chance of doing damage that someone on their bike will not.

[punchoutsb]

Fast hands equals hand speed, yes. Now explain how am I not distinguishing them? At this point I have literally zero clue what point you are even trying to make.

Khan is faster than Berto, who has absolutely nothing that could even remotely trouble Floyd. This point offends you for some reason, but it doesn't change anything.

And my cordiality was quite real, but you come on screaming my points are BS and you're LOLing and crap like that and so I responded in kind. Your posts are always so confrontational and you think everyone is out to get you and Floyd. Grow up.

You said this: I never said Khan is a great fighter. I said he has fast hands, and this: I would make Berto/Khan a 50/50 fight. Khan (even if Berto would beat him) is still a better matchup against Floyd because he at least has something to offer: speed.

To which I replied sarcastically: Yeah because fast hands is all one needs to win fights, right??

You were implying that Khan had the advantage better than Berto because of his speed, that was your point. I actually believe that Khan's speed isn't what you are making it out to be if slower punchers like Danny Garcia and Algieri could catch him often, in other words, his speed won't be enough to trouble Floyd like you somehow think it is.

I believe that fighters who attack Floyd have more success regardless of their speed, when have you ever seen a fighter with speed beat Floyd from the outside (Amir is not an inside fighter so he has no advantage there) and we all know that Khan is not faster than Floyd either inside or outside.

While Berto is no ring scientist and he doesn't have to be either, it is proven that all you have to do is be ultra-aggressive and you will have some success than trying to sit outside and outspeed the speedster.

We will just have to agree to disagree because I absolutely see nothing in Khan who will be on his bike that says to me he even remotely has a chance to beat Floyd whereas with Berto he does have decent punching power and he is aggressive and will continue to fight not run like Amir and therefore present a better chance of doing damage that someone on their bike will not.

We can agree to disagree, and thank you very much for replying in such a well thought out and cordial manner.

Let me clarify; Khans speed is not what make him better than Berto. I see Khan as superior to Berto in every manner except maybe chin, though Berto's is poor as well. Between the two of them the only tangible physical asset that either possesses is Khans speed. And that speed would maybe win him 2-3 rounds. Berto will get completely shut out. That's what I mean and have stated earlier in the thread.

[KBB]

Fast hands equals hand speed, yes. Now explain how am I not distinguishing them? At this point I have literally zero clue what point you are even trying to make.

Khan is faster than Berto, who has absolutely nothing that could even remotely trouble Floyd. This point offends you for some reason, but it doesn't change anything.

And my cordiality was quite real, but you come on screaming my points are BS and you're LOLing and crap like that and so I responded in kind. Your posts are always so confrontational and you think everyone is out to get you and Floyd. Grow up.

You said this: I never said Khan is a great fighter. I said he has fast hands, and this: I would make Berto/Khan a 50/50 fight. Khan (even if Berto would beat him) is still a better matchup against Floyd because he at least has something to offer: speed.

To which I replied sarcastically: Yeah because fast hands is all one needs to win fights, right??

You were implying that Khan had the advantage better than Berto because of his speed, that was your point. I actually believe that Khan's speed isn't what you are making it out to be if slower punchers like Danny Garcia and Algieri could catch him often, in other words, his speed won't be enough to trouble Floyd like you somehow think it is.

I believe that fighters who attack Floyd have more success regardless of their speed, when have you ever seen a fighter with speed beat Floyd from the outside (Amir is not an inside fighter so he has no advantage there) and we all know that Khan is not faster than Floyd either inside or outside.

While Berto is no ring scientist and he doesn't have to be either, it is proven that all you have to do is be ultra-aggressive and you will have some success than trying to sit outside and outspeed the speedster.

We will just have to agree to disagree because I absolutely see nothing in Khan who will be on his bike that says to me he even remotely has a chance to beat Floyd whereas with Berto he does have decent punching power and he is aggressive and will continue to fight not run like Amir and therefore present a better chance of doing damage that someone on their bike will not.

We can agree to disagree, and thank you very much for replying in such a well thought out and cordial manner.

Let me clarify; Khans speed is not what make him better than Berto. I see Khan as superior to Berto in every manner except maybe chin, though Berto's is poor as well. Between the two of them the only tangible physical asset that either possesses is Khans speed. And that speed would maybe win him 2-3 rounds. Berto will get completely shut out. That's what I mean and have stated earlier in the thread.

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Who's the better fighter and overall opponent for Mayweather?

How does it feel to be Floyd's #1 fan?

If you don't like his choice, don't buy it. Berto isn't my first choice either, but it will be better than Khan vs Floyd. Did you watch the Algieri fight???
Put Khan in with Cotto, Canelo, and Pac....even Maidana. He loses badly to all 4. Khan is poo.

I would bet money that Berto would KO Khan, knowing the way they fight.

The same Maidana he beat? And I don't buy the "Maidana has rededicated/improved." He's the same fighter as before. Looking at his recent weight gain I'd even say he's less dedicated than he used to be.

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It doesn't matter because Floyd fans will act as if those were the only two choices Floyd could fight. As if Thurman, Lara, Porter, Bradley, Brook, Matthysse, and even Broner doesn't exist.