Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas

[Freedom2013]

Clearly, Wilder wants to delay the Povetkin fight by making money facing the weakest possible HWs (Molina, Wawrzyk, Duhaupas, Fujimoto).

Anybody losing to Teper is must be wan.k! Teper can punch a bit but is terrible. This will be a perfect opponent for Wilder.

Yes, Duhaupas is very limited and unathletic.

[Rexob]

Clearly, Wilder wants to delay the Povetkin fight by making money facing the weakest possible HWs (Molina, Wawrzyk, Duhaupas, Fujimoto).

Anybody losing to Teper is must be wan.k! Teper can punch a bit but is terrible. This will be a perfect opponent for Wilder.

Yes, Duhaupas is very limited and unathletic.

Exactly perfect for Wilder

[diddy]

Duhuapas is better than Lucas Browne.

[Rexob]

Duhuapas is better than Lucas Browne.

WOW he must be good then :P

[cold187]

Duhaupas has beaten better guys than Joshua

[Rexob]

Duhaupas has beaten better guys than Joshua

That's not hard to be fair.

[cold187]

Duhaupas has beaten better guys than Joshua

That's not hard to be fair.

the things its easy to says whos shit, whos good, whos he beaten bla bla bla bla, whos heard of him etc

1. we all know sanctioning body ranking are BS
2. We all know promoters get boxers a ranking, not always boxers

I hate wilder , truly do, but this fight is to be fair "acceptable"
a lot of fighters get title fights after coming off career best wins vs a "name"
josesito lopez fought canelo after he gatecrashed the ortiz party
hell chisora fought vitali after his clear daylight robbery vs helenius

wilder is right though, u cant make everyone happy
ppl were calling for wilder and Joshua to fight charr (eddie hearn still is) but what about the guy who beat charr, no one gives a fornicate.
Joshua beat bakhton to get a high ranking. but then Arnold gjerjaj beat him too, but he remains out!!!!!

also just cos a boxer isn't heard of in the states don't make him shit. peeps need to understand the playing field has changed and accept it

[Datsue]

On paper this will be Wilders second or third best opponent. I'd take Duhaupas over Scott, so I'm going to say its Wilders second best fight.

It's a much better fight then Hughie or Wawrzyck. I like Duhaupas, he's one of the lesser known guys that I follow. I never figured he'd be good enough to land a title shot, but then I forgot Wilder held a title. It's not a horrible fight, and they even gave him like six weeks to prepare!

This.

If Wilder was a 15-fight novice, I'd even be applauding the sensible level of matchmaking.

[Lackeos]

Duhaupas is really not a good title challenger. Easily better than Andrzej Warwyzk or however it's spelled. Kind of on-par with Chagaev's caliber or poor title challengers. But in most weight divisions, it would be pretty disappointing if a "champion" and "future of the division" was making title defenses against challengers who were like #45 and #35 on boxrec. Imagine if Saul Alvarez only ever made title defenses against Frank Haroche Horta and Guido Nicolas Pitto.

I don't expect Wilder to have the stiffest matchmaking in the world. But I hope that soon he gets around to fighting people like Takam, Cunningham, Chisora, Fedosov, even Browne or Mansour maybe.

[Freedom2013]

Duhuapas is better than Lucas Browne.

No.

Skill-wise, they are about equal. But Browne can punch very hard, Duhaupas cannot.

Therefore Duhaupas is much less of a threat to the pampered, over-protected paper titleholder Wilder.

[cold187]

duhapas beats brown who has no skill
we all knwo teper can bang and duhaupas took his punches
browne is chinless himself, no way he goes 12 with teper

duhaupas>>>bronwne all day every day

[Datsue]

duhapas beats brown who has no skill
we all knwo teper can bang and duhaupas took his punches
browne is chinless himself, no way he goes 12 with teper

duhaupas>>>bronwne all day every day

Whilst I wouldn't bet on Browne eventually catching up with, mauling & overwhelming Duhaupas, I wouldn't bet on Duhaupas fiddling his way to a win, either.

In a perfect world, I'd like to see Duhaupas vs Browne, it's a sensible fight between fringe types (remember when they used to happen at heavyweight? So do I. It was 1997).

However, I saw Browne ringside vs Rudenko (sp?), & though the fat Ukrainian cannot punch his weight he hit Browne so flush & so often that I cannot accept that Browne does not have at least a decent chin.

No defence, no handspeed, dodgy stamina, no footwork & no combination punching. But he's definitely got a solid chin.

Again, for the record, Wilder vs Duhuapas (or Browne) would be a decent fight for a 15-fight unbeaten prospect.

For a world title it's laughable bullshit, but it's obvious that anyone who accepts the fantasy of Wilder as any sort of champion whatsoever is basically ignorable.

[kych]

I hope Browne will get a chance aganst Wilder, he is a harder puncher than Duhaupas. There will be a knock out for sure.

[jamesmcdonnell]

duhapas beats brown who has no skill
we all knwo teper can bang and duhaupas took his punches
browne is chinless himself, no way he goes 12 with teper

duhaupas>>>bronwne all day every day

Whilst I wouldn't bet on Browne eventually catching up with, mauling & overwhelming Duhaupas, I wouldn't bet on Duhaupas fiddling his way to a win, either.

In a perfect world, I'd like to see Duhaupas vs Browne, it's a sensible fight between fringe types (remember when they used to happen at heavyweight? So do I. It was 1997).

However, I saw Browne ringside vs Rudenko (sp?), & though the fat Ukrainian cannot punch his weight he hit Browne so flush & so often that I cannot accept that Browne does not have at least a decent chin.

No defence, no handspeed, dodgy stamina, no footwork & no combination punching. But he's definitely got a solid chin.

Again, for the record, Wilder vs Duhuapas (or Browne) would be a decent fight for a 15-fight unbeaten prospect.

For a world title it's laughable bullshit, but it's obvious that anyone who accepts the fantasy of Wilder as any sort of champion whatsoever is basically ignorable.

I've come the conclusion that Wilder's team know he has a shaky beard, and are doing everything to avoid him facing a puncher, until either Wlad retires, or they get a good payday against him. Wilder is one fight away from destruction, and they damned well know it.

[punchoutsb]

Are they ever going to officially announce his opponent?

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

- No, make all them TBAs sweat.

[tiny_acres]

Are they ever going to officially announce his opponent?

I'm wondering the same thing.I am waiting for the poster of Wilder vs TBA.
Come on they have to announce soon.It is becoming a bigger joke waiting than any
crappy opponent they could announce

[punchoutsb]

At this point they will be lucky to get someone like Chancey or Galen Brown.

[Badhusker]

I read on 3 different sites the deal is done, and they will officially announce it at the press conference on Thursday.
Since Char was a top ten guy, (according to one article) this guy should be a good test for Wilder.

[crusader]

Charr wasn't even top 15 imo.

I remember when certain people railed Wlad for fighting Pianeta, but he was someone who unanimously beat Duhaupas and hadn't lost to a fighter like Teper months before. It's a shame that the CS posts from that time have been expunged.

[Badhusker]

Charr wasn't even top 15 imo.

I remember when certain people railed Wlad for fighting Pianeta, but he was someone who unanimously beat Duhaupas and hadn't lost to a fighter like Teper months before. It's a shame that the CS posts from that time have been expunged.

And you are the poster child of that. In the midst of you trying to sound so intelligent, you forgot to point out that Leapai was apparently good enough to challenge Wlad for a title last year, and was beaten by Char in May of this year. Char has beaten guys like Michael Grant, Kevin Johnson, and Denis Bakhtov recently. Char was beaten by Johann Duhaupas this year. Wouldn't an opponent like that make the Wilder competition whiners STFU? Hell no. Find a way to slam his competition anyway, regardless of how stupid it is.

Guys like you seem to thrive on denigrating guys that are up and coming, instead of just saying its a pretty good match up for him, considering he will be taking on the #2 guy in the world next year.

It is a shame. Hey, if I have my wins/losses, and opponents mixed up that prove my point, feel free to correct me. Char must have been in the top 15 if he got a shot at Wlad last year, correct?

[crusader]

I am the poster child of posts being expunged from the CS? LOL

Leapai was a terrible challenger, but he was a mandatory so I'm okay with Wlad fighting him, just as I won't slate Wilder for facing his mandatory in order to keep his belt. Duhaupas did beat Charr in a close fight, but he lost earlier this year to a guy just on the fringes of the top 15 and in his only other bout of note lost unanimously to Pianeta, who was probably top 20 at best; that's why it was an upset that he beat Charr even though the latter was coming off a hard loss and was clearly nothing special. It's really laughable that you're playing off Duhaupas as someone who is beyond criticism as a world title challenger when he's at best an EBU level guy who has already fallen short there multiple times. I've said since he beat Charr that he'd be a good test for up and comers like Joshua and Parker, each of whom I'd expect to beat him, but I never thought he'd land a world title fight....though maybe I shouldn't be surprised at this considering that Wilder's had 34 bouts yet only fought a single top 10 opponent.

By the way, Charr didn't get a shot at Wlad last year. He fought Povetkin in the latter's comeback from the 119-104 Wlad drubbing and was dominated and heavily knocked out. He also fought old Vitali 3 years ago and was easily stopped in 4, so he's fallen way short in all his bouts with top opponents and has never beaten anyone better than a gatekeeper in Johnson.

Guys like you seem to thrive on denigrating guys that are up and coming, instead of just saying its a pretty good match up for him, considering he will be taking on the #2 guy in the world next year.

Or I can look at the fact that he's been a pro nearly 7 years, has had 34 fights, is a major belt holder and one of the highest ranked fighters in the division, yet has fought only 1 top 10 opponent, 2 top 25 opponents (which includes the lone top 10er), and has consistently faced opposition who had no business fighting him. If he faces Povetkin he'll be fighting pretty much the best opponent he can fight other than Wlad, and if he beats him it will in my eyes probably shoot him up to the #2 spot in the division, but those things have yet to happen.

Oh ya, this tablet is horrible to type long posts with

[zojo]

Duhuapas is better than Lucas Browne.

WOW he must be good then :P

Especially since Browne has a broken thumb

[Boxing Writer]

Charr wasn't even top 15 imo.

I remember when certain people railed Wlad for fighting Pianeta, but he was someone who unanimously beat Duhaupas and hadn't lost to a fighter like Teper months before. It's a shame that the CS posts from that time have been expunged.

And you are the poster child of that. In the midst of you trying to sound so intelligent, you forgot to point out that Leapai was apparently good enough to challenge Wlad for a title last year, and was beaten by Char in May of this year. Char has beaten guys like Michael Grant, Kevin Johnson, and Denis Bakhtov recently. Char was beaten by Johann Duhaupas this year. Wouldn't an opponent like that make the Wilder competition whiners STFU? Hell no. Find a way to slam his competition anyway, regardless of how stupid it is.

Guys like you seem to thrive on denigrating guys that are up and coming, instead of just saying its a pretty good match up for him, considering he will be taking on the #2 guy in the world next year.

It is a shame. Hey, if I have my wins/losses, and opponents mixed up that prove my point, feel free to correct me. Char must have been in the top 15 if he got a shot at Wlad last year, correct?

Charr is awful. He was ridiculously overrated prior to his loss to Duhaupas. Every time he stepped up, he got beaten up really bad. Povetkin and old past prime Vitaly made him look like a complete bum. As for the guys you metioned, Grant was totally shot and took the fight on the short notice and he wasn't good even in his prime let alone at 41 y.o. Johnson took the fight with Charr of the very short notice too and their fight was very competetive. And Bakhtov was beating Charr prior to injury just like Saglam. Young guys like Joshua and Parker showed how to beat Bakhtov and Saglam respectively - they just destroyed them unlike Charr who went life and death with both. And nobody ranks Joshua and Parker in top-10 yet. Charr never was top-20, probably even top-30 fighter.

[Badhusker]

I am the poster child of posts being expunged from the CS? LOL

Leapai was a terrible challenger, but he was a mandatory so I'm okay with Wlad fighting him, just as I won't slate Wilder for facing his mandatory in order to keep his belt. Duhaupas did beat Charr in a close fight, but he lost earlier this year to a guy just on the fringes of the top 15 and in his only other bout of note lost unanimously to Pianeta, who was probably top 20 at best; that's why it was an upset that he beat Charr even though the latter was coming off a hard loss and was clearly nothing special. It's really laughable that you're playing off Duhaupas as someone who is beyond criticism as a world title challenger when he's at best an EBU level guy who has already fallen short there multiple times. I've said since he beat Charr that he'd be a good test for up and comers like Joshua and Parker, each of whom I'd expect to beat him, but I never thought he'd land a world title fight....though maybe I shouldn't be surprised at this considering that Wilder's had 34 bouts yet only fought a single top 10 opponent.

By the way, Charr didn't get a shot at Wlad last year. He fought Povetkin in the latter's comeback from the 119-104 Wlad drubbing and was dominated and heavily knocked out. He also fought old Vitali 3 years ago and was easily stopped in 4, so he's fallen way short in all his bouts with top opponents and has never beaten anyone better than a gatekeeper in Johnson.

Guys like you seem to thrive on denigrating guys that are up and coming, instead of just saying its a pretty good match up for him, considering he will be taking on the #2 guy in the world next year.

Or I can look at the fact that he's been a pro nearly 7 years, has had 34 fights, is a major belt holder and one of the highest ranked fighters in the division, yet has fought only 1 top 10 opponent, 2 top 25 opponents (which includes the lone top 10er), and has consistently faced opposition who had no business fighting him. If he faces Povetkin he'll be fighting pretty much the best opponent he can fight other than Wlad, and if he beats him it will in my eyes probably shoot him up to the #2 spot in the division, but those things have yet to happen.

Oh ya, this tablet is horrible to type long posts with

Apologies about the poster child comment, I must have misread or misunderstood.

My whole point on Wilder is that he is just taking another tune up for Povetkin, and any decent challenger will hopefully help him gain more experience. He has only had one title defense. If he continues to seek out soft opponents then I would say he deserves all the criticism he gets. He has been a pro for years now, but keep in mind he had very little amateur experience. Probably has sixty fights total now including amateurs. A lot of these guys have twice that in amateurs alone. A couple years ago he was criticized for not fighting guys like Charr and Johnson. Now he gets criticized for thinking about fighting them or someone at their level. I guess that comes with a belt, and the bar being raised - and rightfully so. I want to see him vs the best as much as anyone, and will be very critical of him if it continues.