jamesmcdonnell wrote:Probably not - although I have noticed that with Holyfield, when he stopped fighting, his speech patterns improved quite significantly, but what is more worrying is that Toney's balance seems to have gone, something which never seemed to happen to Evander.
Still remember the absolute ass-whipping Toney gave Holyfield, I never saw anyone else whip Evander like that. It was a total and utter domination. In hindsight very impressive.
What punches did he stop Holyfield with? It's hard to see. Was it a body shot?
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Probably not - although I have noticed that with Holyfield, when he stopped fighting, his speech patterns improved quite significantly, but what is more worrying is that Toney's balance seems to have gone, something which never seemed to happen to Evander.
Still remember the absolute ass-whipping Toney gave Holyfield, I never saw anyone else whip Evander like that. It was a total and utter domination. In hindsight very impressive.
What punches did he stop Holyfield with? It's hard to see. Was it a body shot?
It was an accumulation from what I recall, but I think it was a bodyshot which finally did for him.
It's a bit of a forgotten gem that fight, Toney put on an absolute clinic that night, and totally dismantled Holyfield in a way that I never saw anybody else achieve.
It was an accumulation from what I recall, but I think it was a bodyshot which finally did for him.
It's a bit of a forgotten gem that fight, Toney put on an absolute clinic that night, and totally dismantled Holyfield in a way that I never saw anybody else achieve.
Thanks. I've watched the ending so many times -- it's hard to see what punch brought him to the canvas.
Like a Boss wrote:Toney isn't a tragedy about to happen. I fear he is a tragedy already completed. His quality of life after retirement is something I don't even want to contemplate.
He's a convicted drugs cheat. Zero sympathy from me.
Taking performance enhancing drugs is cheating and I have no time for it. But I do feel sorry for boxers who end up brain damaged like James Toney.
Like a Boss wrote:Toney isn't a tragedy about to happen. I fear he is a tragedy already completed. His quality of life after retirement is something I don't even want to contemplate.
He's a convicted drugs cheat. Zero sympathy from me.
Taking performance enhancing drugs is cheating and I have no time for it. But I do feel sorry for boxers who end up brain damaged like James Toney.
I feel more sorry for the people who's brain he damaged while on PEDs.
