Pacquaio vs Crawford: Bob Arum in a nutshell

[caldo2025]

Bob Arum plays the roll of that nice Uncle you see every Christmas but if you want to see what the guy is really like, watch how he treats his greatest fighter ever at the end of his career.

We all saw the fight and we all witnessed a declining Manny in the twilight of his career. His footwork wasn't there, his hand speed was non existent and whatever power he had left, didn't make the trip to Vegas. Bob Arum has been riding the Manny Train for years and made more money with him than every other fighter in the Promoters 40 years of work. While most Good people would protect and nurture a person that has meant so much, Bob Arum is looking to see how much money he can extract from Manny's aging body. Most GOOD people would have a goal to protect this great fighters legacy and be extra careful about how this boxer exits the stage. Not Bob Arum. It's just the proof that this guy would sell his mother down the river if he could make a buck.

Not to mention that Terrance Crawfords star is on the rise and how do you think the public will view him after he destroys Manny like most people with a brain think he will. Bob doesn't care. It's all about the buck Bob and it seems everyone was right on when it comes to this despicable piece of garbage.

[Datsue]

Crawford will ruin him.

Pac will have to fight until he's 45, he spends money like water AFAIK.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Has this fight actually been made? Or is this just another load of hot air.

[Datsue]

Has this fight actually been made? Or is this just another load of hot air.

Probably hot air mate; Arum making rumblings trying to force Mayweather's hand into signing on for another multi-megabucks walk in the park, imo.

[Badhusker]

Poor Manny. You act like he doesn't have a brain of his own? Arum protected him from Floyd as long as he could. Now he needs to protect him from getting destroyed by Crawford? Crawford just moved up from lightweight. He is good, but he's not all that just yet. Nurture him?

[Datsue]

Poor Manny. You act like he doesn't have a brain of his own? Arum protected him from Floyd as long as he could. Now he needs to protect him from getting destroyed by Crawford? Crawford just moved up from lightweight. He is good, but he's not all that just yet. Nurture him?

Haven't you got a thread defending Wilder you need to befoul?

[Badhusker]

Poor Manny. You act like he doesn't have a brain of his own? Arum protected him from Floyd as long as he could. Now he needs to protect him from getting destroyed by Crawford? Crawford just moved up from lightweight. He is good, but he's not all that just yet. Nurture him?

Haven't you got a thread defending Wilder you need to befoul?

Sorry if I hurt your feelings be telling the truth. Who wants to see Manny vs guys like Rios and Algieri? Let him fight Khan then, or would that be too mean to poor Manny?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Has this fight actually been made? Or is this just another load of hot air.

Probably hot air mate; Arum making rumblings trying to force Mayweather's hand into signing on for another multi-megabucks walk in the park, imo.

I can't see any mentioned of it anywhere.

[IKSRTFO]

And after Crawford "destroys" Manny right after Floyd fought a boring fight against him, how will that make Floyd look? Especially considering a younger boxer in the same realm did what Floyd was afraid to do.


Then after, Terence will call Floyd out and you same people will turn on him

[Datsue]

And after Crawford "destroys" Manny right after Floyd fought a boring fight against him, how will that make Floyd look? Especially considering a younger boxer in the same realm did what Floyd was afraid to do.

Um, no. I will nod enthusiastically; Crawford's the best fighter under thirty in the game who's not named González & my favourite active fighter to watch north of featherweight.

[Tanzio]

Pac doesn't have to do anything. Would it be so bad though if Pac gave a young lion with legit superstar potential a stage to prove his worth, like Odlh gave to FMJ?

We know the ultimate boxing prima doña of our lifetimes won't return the favor that he received from a past prime superstar. My respect for Manny would soar if he took this or a similar fight.

Anyone who thinks a Crawford victory would be a foregone conclusion is kidding themselves, unless you have inside information that it is to be another choreographed dance exhibition.

[expe]

Arum's a promoter, what else is he supposed to do? Protecting Pacquaio's legacy is down to Manny and his management team, not Bob Arum, no one's forcing him to take these fights. Arum is also Crawford's promoter, if he thinks Pacquaio is the right fight for him, there's no reason for him to not try and make it happen.

Pacquaio isn't his greatest fighter ever either.

[Badhusker]

Putting Crawford in with Manny is actually a smart move by Arum. Crawford is still green, and no way would he beat Manny in embarassing fashion. Manny would be favored to win. Arum can still use it to promote his next cash cow. He gets nothing out of Manny vs Khan. Probably not even as much $ in the end since Khan isn't top rank.

[SenorPipino]

Shocking.

A promoter actually using an aging fighter to make money. I thought all promoters simply protect and baby their stable, and would never dream of placing that fighter at risk. Why should they care about money? We all know that promoters are in the sport simply because they're humanitarians.

Caldo, if Arum is depicable human garbage, then that pretty much sums up every promoter who has ever crawled the face of the earth.

Both Arum and Pacquiao are wealthy partially because of the others' help.

No one is a bad guy here. It's what they do. Get real.

[IKSRTFO]

All I have to say is Pacquiao Crawford > Mayweather Berto

[IKSRTFO]

Shocking.

A promoter actually using an aging fighter to make money. I thought all promoters simply protect and baby their stable, and would never dream of placing that fighter at risk. Why should they care about money? We all know that promoters are in the sport simply because they're humanitarians.

Caldo, if Arum is depicable human garbage, then that pretty much sums up every promoter who has ever crawled the face of the earth.

Both Arum and Pacquiao are wealthy partially because of the others' help.

No one is a bad guy here. It's what they do. Get real.

It's shocking that a promoter actually wants to put his top fighter in with wait.....a guy who could possibly beat him.

[Badhusker]

If Freddie Roach gets his way, Pac will fight Danny Garcia. Honestly I don't realistically see any Top Rank fighter sharing profits with an Al Haymon fighter, aside from Floyd vs Manny, which won't happen again. I suppose it (Garcia or even Khan) could happen if Arum drops his lawsuit against Haymon, but even that isn't likely.

[Datsue]

All I have to say is Pacquiao Crawford > Mayweather Berto

[jamesmcdonnell]

Can someone actually show me a link anywhere to anything that suggests this is Arum's next move? I've not seen a thing.

[Tanzio]

If Freddie Roach gets his way, Pac will fight Danny Garcia. Honestly I don't realistically see any Top Rank fighter sharing profits with an Al Haymon fighter, aside from Floyd vs Manny, which won't happen again. I suppose it (Garcia or even Khan) could happen if Arum drops his lawsuit against Haymon, but even that isn't likely.

If Pac fights any of those three it will be an exponentially better / more competitive fight than the three stooges (FMJ, SOGgy and The KO Walking) have planned.

Pathetic wastes of space.

[jamesmcdonnell]

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/8/18/91 ... arch-april

Here's all I see, which is CRAWFORD'S OWN TRAINER - suggesting the matchup.

There's zero actual story here to comment on, nowhere has Arum suggested it's the next fight. It makes little sense to me anyway, to risk Pacquaio when there's ANY chance of a rematch with Mayweather.

[SenorPipino]

Shocking.

A promoter actually using an aging fighter to make money. I thought all promoters simply protect and baby their stable, and would never dream of placing that fighter at risk. Why should they care about money? We all know that promoters are in the sport simply because they're humanitarians.

Caldo, if Arum is depicable human garbage, then that pretty much sums up every promoter who has ever crawled the face of the earth.

Both Arum and Pacquiao are wealthy partially because of the others' help.

No one is a bad guy here. It's what they do. Get real.

It's shocking that a promoter actually wants to put his top fighter in with wait.....a guy who could possibly beat him.

Not so much.

At this point, Arum knows that Pac's days as one of boxing's elite attractions is coming to a close, and he's turning his attention to the NEXT BIG THING.

What would put Crawford into the mainstream spotlight better than a victory over a legend like Pacquiao? Crawford could win his next 10 bouts by quick KO, but it wouldn't serve him as well hype-wise as one single victory over the iconic Pacquiao.

Manny might have been a name with hardcore fans, but he didn't become a true superstar until he pounded De La Hoya.
A win for Crawford over Pacquiao might have the same effect for him.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Shocking.

A promoter actually using an aging fighter to make money. I thought all promoters simply protect and baby their stable, and would never dream of placing that fighter at risk. Why should they care about money? We all know that promoters are in the sport simply because they're humanitarians.

Caldo, if Arum is depicable human garbage, then that pretty much sums up every promoter who has ever crawled the face of the earth.

Both Arum and Pacquiao are wealthy partially because of the others' help.

No one is a bad guy here. It's what they do. Get real.

It's shocking that a promoter actually wants to put his top fighter in with wait.....a guy who could possibly beat him.

Not so much.

At this point, Arum knows that Pac's days as one of boxing's elite attractions is coming to a close, and he's turning his attention to the NEXT BIG THING.

What would put Crawford into the mainstream spotlight better than a victory over a legend like Pacquiao? Crawford could win his next 10 bouts by quick KO, but it wouldn't serve him as well hype-wise as one single victory over the iconic Pacquiao.

Manny might have been a name with hardcore fans, but he didn't become a true superstar until he pounded De La Hoya.
A win for Crawford over Pacquiao might have the same effect for him.

Except that Arum hasn't said jack.

The only person jawing about it so far, are Crawford's trainer, and people on here.

Arum still stands to make WAYYYYY more money from Pacquaio than Crawford, so he's not going to bail just yet.

Manny was making plenty of money before he busted DLH up, he whacked Barrera and had 2 fights with Morales, one where stopped him, which made him a household name in SE Asia. It's erroneous to claim he wasn't a star before DLH.

[IKSRTFO]

If Freddie Roach gets his way, Pac will fight Danny Garcia. Honestly I don't realistically see any Top Rank fighter sharing profits with an Al Haymon fighter, aside from Floyd vs Manny, which won't happen again. I suppose it (Garcia or even Khan) could happen if Arum drops his lawsuit against Haymon, but even that isn't likely.

Garcia still better than Mayweather vs Berto

[koolkc107]

The OP may have a point.

But, I am not sure Bud can beat Pac.

I love Crawford and think his time is coming. But, even a diminished Manny is going to get to him quite often.

It wou be a horrible move on Arum's pary, IMO.

He'll wind up with his best chance at a future marquee guy taking perhaps a career ruining beating.