PPV sales

Aaronide_ger
Super Welterweight
Posts: 595
Joined: 13 Sep 2014, 10:01

PPV sales

Post by Aaronide_ger »

I know this is not boxing related but I really dont know where else to post so i can get a proper answer.

I made my research for UFC PPV and I really cant believe this, if the Cotto vs Canelo fight happens this year we will have just 3 major boxing PPVs on HBO & Showtime.

While UFC has made NINE PPVs all of them with combined Buys of 4,875,000 million.. ( Source Here )

Really? THAT many PPV buys for UFC events? And how can people accept so many PPV events and still buy them in JUST A YEAR.

The only Logical explanation is the PPV value being under 30$.. but I didint find any confirmation on that.

Rousey vs uknown Correia did 900K Buys.. how the F#ck really? While Mayweather did the same number with Maidana. Someone give me a proper answer please.
TimFreza
Super Welterweight
Posts: 43
Joined: 26 May 2015, 00:35

Re: PPV sales

Post by TimFreza »

Better study would be to see where all the UFC money goes. Huge gates. Huge earnings. Minimal payments to fighters. :TU:

Also $100K advance for advertisers to UFC, just to advertise on a licenced fighter. Then they have to pay the fighter extra. :bag:
Aaronide_ger
Super Welterweight
Posts: 595
Joined: 13 Sep 2014, 10:01

Re: PPV sales

Post by Aaronide_ger »

TimFreza wrote:Better study would be to see where all the UFC money goes. Huge gates. Huge earnings. Minimal payments to fighters. :TU:

Also $100K advance for advertisers to UFC, just to advertise on a licenced fighter. Then they have to pay the fighter extra. :bag:
I am asking how do they make so huge PPV sales with Mismatches and NINE PPVs already this year, im not asking where the money goes.
JMac
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 2308
Joined: 06 Sep 2007, 14:41

Re: PPV sales

Post by JMac »

Hopefully boxing will have NO MORE PPV's. It's the worst thing to have ever happened to the sport besides the multiple ABC's. Eff them all.
Impractical Poster
Middleweight
Posts: 7636
Joined: 18 Jun 2014, 07:28

Re: PPV sales

Post by Impractical Poster »

Aaronide_ger wrote:
TimFreza wrote:Better study would be to see where all the UFC money goes. Huge gates. Huge earnings. Minimal payments to fighters. :TU:

Also $100K advance for advertisers to UFC, just to advertise on a licenced fighter. Then they have to pay the fighter extra. :bag:
I am asking how do they make so huge PPV sales with Mismatches and NINE PPVs already this year, im not asking where the money goes.
Mismatches?

You are misinformed then. They make the money because it's a great product, which, unlike boxing, pits the best against the best consistently.
Perseus
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 3200
Joined: 26 Jul 2007, 03:58

Re: PPV sales

Post by Perseus »

JMac wrote:Hopefully boxing will have NO MORE PPV's. It's the worst thing to have ever happened to the sport besides the multiple ABC's. Eff them all.
Agreed.

Let UFC have ALL the ppv's.
Would be great if all televised boxing could viewed on free tv, cable and premium channels.
CrazyHorse
Cruiserweight
Posts: 509
Joined: 19 Apr 2011, 14:46

Re: PPV sales

Post by CrazyHorse »

I dont believe when ufc says they did 900k. most people go out to the bars to watch the fights, i just cant see how on earth it would be 900 k. Considering ufc isnt quite as popular as it was say back in 2010.


but i do like the free boxing pbc has been putting up, it is exciting to watch. just want more meaningful matches
Aaronide_ger
Super Welterweight
Posts: 595
Joined: 13 Sep 2014, 10:01

Re: PPV sales

Post by Aaronide_ger »

Impractical Poster wrote:You are misinformed then. They make the money because it's a great product, which, unlike boxing, pits the best against the best consistently.
WTF dude.

Ronda vs Correia
Ronda vs Cat Zingano

Where those 2 matchups not mismatches? Are we watching the same thing? pits the best against the best? I laught at this sh#t.

@CrazyHorse U are so right, no way they did 900K, these are not the official numbers, they NEVER released official numbers.

I believe they are deceiving people.
tiny_acres
Middleweight
Posts: 9463
Joined: 17 Feb 2014, 14:43

Re: PPV sales

Post by tiny_acres »

Aaronide_ger wrote:
While UFC has made NINE PPVs all of them with combined Buys of 4,875,000 million.. ( Source Here )



The only Logical explanation is the PPV value being under 30$.. but I didint find any confirmation on that.
So all nine PPV's are about equal to the one PPV of Pac-Floyd

I would love to only pay $30 for boxing PPV's but they are so much more.
tiny_acres
Middleweight
Posts: 9463
Joined: 17 Feb 2014, 14:43

Re: PPV sales

Post by tiny_acres »

Aaronide_ger wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:You are misinformed then. They make the money because it's a great product, which, unlike boxing, pits the best against the best consistently.
WTF dude.

Ronda vs Correia
Ronda vs Cat Zingano

Where those 2 matchups not mismatches? Are we watching the same thing? pits the best against the best? I laught at this sh#t.

@CrazyHorse U are so right, no way they did 900K, these are not the official numbers, they NEVER released official numbers.

I believe they are deceiving people.
UFC is like the Barnum and Bailey circus.They can hype any fight to make it look like
it is matching the best at any given time.
Smoke and mirrors.That is what I think of their match making.
Aaronide_ger
Super Welterweight
Posts: 595
Joined: 13 Sep 2014, 10:01

Re: PPV sales

Post by Aaronide_ger »

tiny_acres wrote:
Aaronide_ger wrote:
While UFC has made NINE PPVs all of them with combined Buys of 4,875,000 million.. ( Source Here )



The only Logical explanation is the PPV value being under 30$.. but I didint find any confirmation on that.
So all nine PPV's are about equal to the one PPV of Pac-Floyd

I would love to only pay $30 for boxing PPV's but they are so much more.
Take Floyd vs Pac out of the picture and watch boxing PPVs at 2014. None did more than 1 Million and UFC manages to do so many buys yet they pay their fighters 50k??? Something is fishy here.

People are not dumb.. they can hype fights all they want but people wont continue to buy into all that bs. Some will for sure but imagine something like this happening to boxing? 9 PPVs? It would be the end of our sport. These PPV Buys are 10000% fake
Impractical Poster
Middleweight
Posts: 7636
Joined: 18 Jun 2014, 07:28

Re: PPV sales

Post by Impractical Poster »

Aaronide_ger wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:You are misinformed then. They make the money because it's a great product, which, unlike boxing, pits the best against the best consistently.
WTF dude.

Ronda vs Correia
Ronda vs Cat Zingano

Where those 2 matchups not mismatches? Are we watching the same thing? pits the best against the best? I laught at this sh#t.

@CrazyHorse U are so right, no way they did 900K, these are not the official numbers, they NEVER released official numbers.

I believe they are deceiving people.
Who should Rousey fight?

Both of those women were undefeated when Ronda faced them. She is just a dominate champion. Is this the only attempt of an example that you have? The UFC is consistently having the best fight the best. If you don't see this, you don't follow the sport.
sucracristo
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 1828
Joined: 24 Dec 2011, 23:47

Re: PPV sales

Post by sucracristo »

Aaronide_ger wrote: ( Source Here )
"Compiled from reports in Dave Meltzer’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter:" :lol:
so anyone who clicks your source needs to click another source then from there
go to at least one other source to actually get to the source. where does this data
originate? i know the UFC has their own PPV company that doesn't report any of
this info the way showtime and hbo do in boxing. i don't mind watching mma, as
i started off in kickboxing then moved to boxing and finally judo. bodog or the zillion
goofy fight leagues zuffa bought trying to monopolize that sport all put up the occasionally
interesting scrap over a trophy and a ham sandwich, but the followers of mma themselves
are the most annoying cult ever invented, particularly when it comes to pollution of boxing
forums and conversations. it's like they have some manic form of tourettes where they just
can't handle people discussing boxing.
punchoutsb
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5842
Joined: 16 Sep 2009, 01:05

Re: PPV sales

Post by punchoutsb »

sucracristo wrote:but the followers of mma themselves
are the most annoying cult ever invented
You've obviously never spoken to crossfitters, vegans, or atheists :lol:
tiny_acres
Middleweight
Posts: 9463
Joined: 17 Feb 2014, 14:43

Re: PPV sales

Post by tiny_acres »

punchoutsb wrote:
sucracristo wrote:but the followers of mma themselves
are the most annoying cult ever invented
You've obviously never spoken to crossfitters, vegans, or atheists :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
We need a spitting out your coffee smiley face.

That was funny :bow:
Aaronide_ger
Super Welterweight
Posts: 595
Joined: 13 Sep 2014, 10:01

Re: PPV sales

Post by Aaronide_ger »

sucracristo wrote:
Aaronide_ger wrote: ( Source Here )
"Compiled from reports in Dave Meltzer’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter:" :lol:
so anyone who clicks your source needs to click another source then from there
go to at least one other source to actually get to the source. where does this data
originate? i know the UFC has their own PPV company that doesn't report any of
this info the way showtime and hbo do in boxing. i don't mind watching mma, as
i started off in kickboxing then moved to boxing and finally judo. bodog or the zillion
goofy fight leagues zuffa bought trying to monopolize that sport all put up the occasionally
interesting scrap over a trophy and a ham sandwich, but the followers of mma themselves
are the most annoying cult ever invented, particularly when it comes to pollution of boxing
forums and conversations. it's like they have some manic form of tourettes where they just
can't handle people discussing boxing.
Image

Here wikipedia source SAME NUMBERS.

@Impractical Poster She should fight Cyborg if her division SUCKS, yea go up in weight and "Fight the best" It seems u are saying better excuses than floyd mayweather.

Still 900K buys and UFC pays her 1,5 M per fight. I dont buy that BS F#cking Fake as F#ck
Aaronide_ger
Super Welterweight
Posts: 595
Joined: 13 Sep 2014, 10:01

Re: PPV sales

Post by Aaronide_ger »

@verballistic

How can the US people KEEP paying these PPVs thats what I dont understand, we have 3 major PPVs this year and in all boxing sites they are uploading humorous pics of people crying over "Losing all their money" from those PPVs..

WHILE IN UFC THEY KEEP MAKING event after event PPVS!!!!! they had 14 PPVs last year.. this is Ridiculus and beyond belief.
caldo2025
Super Welterweight
Posts: 4417
Joined: 16 Dec 2014, 07:37

Re: PPV sales

Post by caldo2025 »

There's NO WAY the Rousey PPV did 900K buys. No possible way. I'm a boxing fan first and foremost but do love watching the UFC and follow it pretty closely and that Rousey card was piss poor. Every single bout was garbage.

Now I do believe that the McGregor/Mendes card did 825k because that card was jacked with great bouts. Not sure if anyone here bought that PPV event but if you did, you were treated to great fight after great fight. Well worth the money. But no way, Rousey's card did that much. No possible way.
Boxing Prospect
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 6592
Joined: 25 Jun 2012, 14:35

Re: PPV sales

Post by Boxing Prospect »

If it did so such great numbers, the question is how many will return?
sucracristo
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 1828
Joined: 24 Dec 2011, 23:47

Re: PPV sales

Post by sucracristo »

caldo2025 wrote:There's NO WAY the Rousey PPV did 900K buys. No possible way. I'm a boxing fan first and foremost but do love watching the UFC and follow it pretty closely and that Rousey card was piss poor. Every single bout was garbage.

Now I do believe that the McGregor/Mendes card did 825k because that card was jacked with great bouts. Not sure if anyone here bought that PPV event but if you did, you were treated to great fight after great fight. Well worth the money. But no way, Rousey's card did that much. No possible way.
what time did the rousey fight actually start on the east coast?
wasn't it like 3am?
caldo2025
Super Welterweight
Posts: 4417
Joined: 16 Dec 2014, 07:37

Re: PPV sales

Post by caldo2025 »

sucracristo wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:There's NO WAY the Rousey PPV did 900K buys. No possible way. I'm a boxing fan first and foremost but do love watching the UFC and follow it pretty closely and that Rousey card was piss poor. Every single bout was garbage.

Now I do believe that the McGregor/Mendes card did 825k because that card was jacked with great bouts. Not sure if anyone here bought that PPV event but if you did, you were treated to great fight after great fight. Well worth the money. But no way, Rousey's card did that much. No possible way.
what time did the rousey fight actually start on the east coast?
wasn't it like 3am?
I don't know exactly. I passed on buying it because the undercard was really horrible at first and second glance. None of my die hard UFC buddies even bought it and that says a lot because they don't miss a card. I just find it really hard to believe that it got 900k buys. NO way.
punchoutsb
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5842
Joined: 16 Sep 2009, 01:05

Re: PPV sales

Post by punchoutsb »

caldo2025 wrote:
sucracristo wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:There's NO WAY the Rousey PPV did 900K buys. No possible way. I'm a boxing fan first and foremost but do love watching the UFC and follow it pretty closely and that Rousey card was piss poor. Every single bout was garbage.

Now I do believe that the McGregor/Mendes card did 825k because that card was jacked with great bouts. Not sure if anyone here bought that PPV event but if you did, you were treated to great fight after great fight. Well worth the money. But no way, Rousey's card did that much. No possible way.
what time did the rousey fight actually start on the east coast?
wasn't it like 3am?
I don't know exactly. I passed on buying it because the undercard was really horrible at first and second glance. None of my die hard UFC buddies even bought it and that says a lot because they don't miss a card. I just find it really hard to believe that it got 900k buys. NO way.
They are trying to turn Ronda in to a massive star (and doing a very good job of it). It wouldn't surprise me at all if the UFC brass bought PPV's to inflate the numbers. Heck, Dana already admitted to buying press time.
Aaronide_ger
Super Welterweight
Posts: 595
Joined: 13 Sep 2014, 10:01

Re: PPV sales

Post by Aaronide_ger »

Rousey will face another uknown named Holms on December.

ON PAY PER VIEW. HAHAHAHHAA, slap in the face to all the fans, I cant believe all these UFC events are on PPV And no People complain.. really.
punchoutsb
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5842
Joined: 16 Sep 2009, 01:05

Re: PPV sales

Post by punchoutsb »

Aaronide_ger wrote:Rousey will face another uknown named Holms on December.

ON PAY PER VIEW. HAHAHAHHAA, slap in the face to all the fans, I cant believe all these UFC events are on PPV And no People complain.. really.
Unknown named "Holms"??

http://boxrec.com/boxer/117628

You may want to check that out, brother.
JCS
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 6245
Joined: 17 Dec 2004, 13:27

Re: PPV sales

Post by JCS »

punchoutsb wrote:
Aaronide_ger wrote:Rousey will face another uknown named Holms on December.

ON PAY PER VIEW. HAHAHAHHAA, slap in the face to all the fans, I cant believe all these UFC events are on PPV And no People complain.. really.
Unknown named "Holms"??

http://boxrec.com/boxer/117628

You may want to check that out, brother.
Waiting for his reply on this one... Holms. :TU:
Post Reply