Biggest career turn-around

IRLangmaid25
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

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Tomasino wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote:
handsofstone wrote:Orlando Salido was the first one that came into my mind,he'd been KO'd about half a dozen times before he got his first world title shot,he turned pro in 1996 and had been KO'd 5 times up until 2000 and hasnt been KO'd since,won his first title 14 years after turning pro
Yep he has in my head as weLl, and from a British perspective Chris Edwards deserves an honourable mention http://boxrec.com/boxer/15404.





Good call on Edwards, superb turnaround. Loved to watch him go to war.
He's got some good names on his slate with the immediate standouts being Lee Haskins and Andrea Saritzu. I first became aware of Chris Edwards when he fought Shinny Bayaar.
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

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Chris Saunders did really well, turned things around.

Ricky Burns also turned himself around.
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Ovill McKenzie's worth a mention,i'd love to see him get a shot a world title before he hangs them up
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

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handsofstone wrote:Ovill McKenzie's worth a mention,i'd love to see him get a shot a world title before he hangs them up
:TU: good call - Enzo Mac too, he's done really well.
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

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Joe Bugner got knocked out in the 3rd round of his debut by a fighter who was 1-3 and ended up 2-11.

Joe was only 17 though
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

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Ricky_ wrote:True, but we're talking about an elite, pedigree fighter. He always had it and never should have retired the first time, he's an ATG. He could have dominated the HW division for years.
he was never going to do that after
ali had destroyed his self esteem.
he was very lucky to win against lyle.
when the bully gets exposed it takes
away a lot.

the mysterious thing to me is how
how he could walk through both
frazier and norton as if they were
journeyman.
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

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man wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:True, but we're talking about an elite, pedigree fighter. He always had it and never should have retired the first time, he's an ATG. He could have dominated the HW division for years.
he was never going to do that after
ali had destroyed his self esteem.
he was very lucky to win against lyle.
when the bully gets exposed it takes
away a lot.

the mysterious thing to me is how
how we could walk through both
frazier and norton as if they were
journeyman.
His power was sublime. Afrer the Ali loss he list it mentally but maybe a year out could have been the answer. Ali got old not long after, i think a short break and return Foreman could have dominated., would love to have seen a youngish George vs young Larry.
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

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reggaereggae wrote:Joe Bugner got knocked out in the 3rd round of his debut by a fighter who was 1-3 and ended up 2-11.

Joe was only 17 though
It is interesting to look back on the records of fighters who went on to become successful. Some contain a shock loss to someone who went on to do precisely nothing in the sport.

Huge bragging rights for the guy who beat Bugner though. "I beat the only guy in history who went the distance with both Ali and Frazier".
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

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Ricky_ wrote:His power was sublime. Afrer the Ali loss he list it mentally but maybe a year out could have been the answer. Ali got old not long after, i think a short break and return Foreman could have dominated., would love to have seen a youngish George vs young Larry.
in my opinion foreman had power, but not a
solid boxing basis. for example his footwork,
starting with his very close stance and of course
his total lack of defense. i have not seen anybody
ever being angry enough to power himself out for
several rounds on a stationary target as he did in
zaire.

when you listen to his commentating it sometimes
is necessary to remind yourself of this being one
of the greatest boxers ever, because from what he
says you couldn't tell. i think foreman had the power
and basic talent of a boxer, but in a certain way not
the mind. he was outclassed in zaire, than struggled
reviving his career and finally his mind found a way
out by the "calling".

i do not see him having much of a chance against a
young larry who was superior in all departments apart
of power.

my explanation for his easy game with frazier is that
by coincidence george had the perfect timing for
everything joe did, always finding the exact split second
of an opening.

i do rate foreman high, but still think many other people
overrate him and one must concede that the comeback
was against no ATG opposition. what made it spectacular
was his age and his name, nothing else. axel schultz had
no business being a contender and still won the fight.

btw i think foreman was treated unfairly in zaire. he was
up at ten and the round was over. this was a premature
stoppage. wouldn't have changed anything though if they
had gone another two. george was doomed after seeing
ali could take all he had to offer.
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

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I would like to see Delray Raines make this thread in the future the guy had so much heart I would really like to see him turn it all around
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Re: Biggest career turn-around

Post by jas80s »

Billy Conn started 8-6 and then went 51-3 before out fighting Joe Louis for 12 rounds in their first go round. Not much can match Kirino Garcia, but not a bad run.
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jas80s wrote:Billy Conn started 8-6 and then went 51-3 before out fighting Joe Louis for 12 rounds in their first go round. Not much can match Kirino Garcia, but not a bad run.
Kirino Garcia what a story to lose your first 20 odd fights then become a world ranked contender that is some achievement
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