What happens if Mayweather loses to Berto?

[caldo2025]

These Floyd lovers can't even answer the hypothetical question that the OP asks.

I think a ton of people miss the fight live just like they did when Douglas whacked Tyson that night. I would have think that Floyd would definitely fight again as he wouldn't want to go out on a loss like that but no one would care. Rhonda Roussey would then write a book about how she's TBE now. Boxing history books will be changed forever even though they shouldn't.

[NateJR]

If Berto were to beat Mayweather it would be one of the biggest upsets in boxing History. It would be on the scale of the Tyson/Douglas upset. The biggest difference is that Berto is around his prime age, where as Floyd is well past his prime age.. Douglas and Tyson were both in their prime.. So I'd say Tyson losing to Douglas would still end up being more significant based on Tyson being perceived as indestructible. Where as Floyd has already accomplished so much (Much more than Tyson) and beaten guys way better than Berto, so at the age of 39/40, it shouldn't hold the same water as a fighter losing in their prime to someone they are so heavily favored against.

With that being said.. The only way Berto beats Floyd is by landing a big punch, Floyd getting injured or Floyd becoming old over night.. I don't see any of that happening and Floyd should outbox Berto relatively easily to a UD or possibly a late stoppage.

[Badhusker]

I agree Nate. It could happen. I think Floyd knows he is in for a fight with Berto, and hopefully is not looking past him. Even Hunter, his trainer, said he could not honestly pick who would have a better shot beating Floyd between him and Khan. Smart money is of course on Floyd, but I think it will be very interesting for the first half of the fight, and possibly longer.

[chucktaylor]

Serious question

If this happened would it be a bigger upset than Buster Douglas and Tyson ?

You mean by knockout. If Berto knocks out Mayweather It would be a huge monumental upset.

If Berto beats Mayweather by decision it. It would be a big upset

I feel like Berto outpointing Mayweather would be even more surprising. Everyone knows that power is his one advantage in this fight, but he isn't a master chess player like FMJ nor is he a really high volume puncher.
It would be a very interesting twist if Berto beat the best of the last couple generations of boxing. He would become a legend and a hall of famer straight away with one win.

[uptconnect]

I personally think this is a dangerous fight for Floyd.
Berto has long underachieved, largely in my opinion, to lack of dedication/conditioning-
And this is sort of a 'trap fight' for Floyd. He gets no credit for beating Berto.
Berto is viewed as not much of a threat, and rightfully so, although most would agree that Berto has the tools be much better than he's shown so far in his career. For a fighter who has never lived up to his potential, but is still young enough to get with the right team and put it together (Virgil Hunter was a wise choice to help tighten up Andre's fundamentals, which were always very glaringly deficient whenever he got fatigued), this fight represents the chance of a lifetime for Andre.
He could erase all the disappointment his career has been up to this point, if he can pull it off.
Even if he makes it close and competitive, his career gets a massive boost, and I think he'll step it up in recognition of this chance of a lifetime.
Plus, I've seen much bigger upsets out fighters with far less hope, is all I'm saying.

I don't purchase PPVs but I'm thinking this one will be one of the few that the people who do won't be mad at paying for, once it's over.
My 2 cents, for what it's worth. (about 2 cents literally)
Not calling a Berto win, but think it's going to be close and competitive and I think Andre will cut off the ring and bully Floyd a bit, which is something we don't get to see often.

Berto beating Floyd would be nowhere near the upset that Douglas Tyson was.

[crusader]

Clear losses to Ortiz and Guerreo, stopped by Karass three fights ago, down on the cards when he stopped Lopez......whatever tools Berto may have I don't think there's much evidence to suggest that he'll put them to use in a way that causes the world's top boxer serious issues.

[davie]

This place would ho into meltdown.

[ScottDetonator]

Mayweather will win comfortably on points. Lopez was well beating Berto until the stoppage. He won't land anything like that on Floyd.

I struggle to see Berto winning two rounds if I'm honest.

[Tony1244]

I'd give it the same shot as Sarah Palin being elected president in 2016 and Jesus coming back in 2016.

[Andrew]

I'd give it the same shot as Sarah Palin being elected president in 2016 and Jesus coming back in 2016.

Kanye west being president in 2020 as well.

[johnswan1]

I'd give it the same shot as Sarah Palin being elected president in 2016 and Jesus coming back in 2016.

Kanye west being president in 2020 as well.

And Palin's youngest kid being president in 2024.

[Tony1244]

I'd give it the same shot as Sarah Palin being elected president in 2016 and Jesus coming back in 2016.

Kanye west being president in 2020 as well.

And Palin's youngest kid being president in 2024.

He's the relative smart one.

[hoagylt]

It will mean the World is ending.

[Syntax Error]

What happens if Mayweather loses to Berto? - how would this change the boxing landscape?

It would give us all something to talk about for about a month; meanwhile, Mayweather Jr will ensure that there is a rematch.

[Lackeos]

I agree Nate. It could happen. I think Floyd knows he is in for a fight with Berto, and hopefully is not looking past him. Even Hunter, his trainer, said he could not honestly pick who would have a better shot beating Floyd between him and Khan. Smart money is of course on Floyd, but I think it will be very interesting for the first half of the fight, and possibly longer.

Are you kidding? If Mayweather can't easily beat a fighter that Jesus Soto Karass beat, then Mayweather is significantly worse than people have been making him out to be. Berto is the worst opponent that Mayweather has fought since 2005. And "even Berto's trainer says that Berto is a non-shitty opponent for Mayweather"? Berto's trainer should be the first person pretending that Berto is a non-shitty opponent for Mayweather. It's not like Hunter is gonna say "Oh yeah, Berto is garbage. Mayweather should have fought Khan instead."

If Mayweather were fighting a lousy opponent, I wouldn't be surprised if you were trying to spin it as though Mayweather was fighting a very difficult opponent, so that his matchmaking didn't seem so cautious. And that is exactly what happened. If he were fighting Paulie Malignaggi, you'd probably be like "Yeah, Malignaggi is one of the worst styles match-ups for Mayweather. This is very courageous, ambitious matchmaking."

[jamesmcdonnell]

Berto is hot garbage. He lost to Robert Guerrero, Victor Ortiz, and Jesus Soto Karass. The only way that Berto could win this fight is...
a) Mayweather bet tens of millions of dollars against himself through a proxy like family / friends. He could get 250:1 odds by betting on a 12th round KO for Berto. If there was no betting limit, he could turn $200 million into $50 billion. It's pretty unlikely that he would get away with it without some major consequences, like having his accomplices hunted down and murdered by the casinos, and getting convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud.
b) Mayweather suffered a pretty major fluke injury. We have seen Sergio Martinez win despite shoulder / knee injuries, we've seen Arthur Abraham win despite a broken jaw. For Mayweather to lose to one of Soto Karass's victims, it would have to be a downright crippling injury.

No firm would take a bet that size with those kind of odds, they would risk instant bankruptcy. They have no obligation to accept bets of that size.

You wouldn't get odds of 250-1 on individual round betting anyway. The most you ever get is 100-1, and that's on the early rounds.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I'd give it the same shot as Sarah Palin being elected president in 2016 and Jesus coming back in 2016.

Kanye west being president in 2020 as well.

I'm surprised he isn't running for the Messiah.

[johnswan1]

You wouldn't get odds of 250-1 on individual round betting anyway. The most you ever get is 100-1, and that's on the early rounds.

Boyles are offering 250/1. But I doubt they would lay anybody more than a tenner.

http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/floyd ... nd-betting

[jamesmcdonnell]

You wouldn't get odds of 250-1 on individual round betting anyway. The most you ever get is 100-1, and that's on the early rounds.

Boyles are offering 250/1. But I doubt they would lay anybody more than a tenner.

http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/floyd ... nd-betting

They must be bloody mental to offer those kind of odds, I've never seen anything remotely that long before on round betting.

As you say, nobody is taking a multi million dollar bet on those kind of odds.

[Andrew]

You wouldn't get odds of 250-1 on individual round betting anyway. The most you ever get is 100-1, and that's on the early rounds.

Boyles are offering 250/1. But I doubt they would lay anybody more than a tenner.

http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/floyd ... nd-betting

They must be bloody mental to offer those kind of odds, I've never seen anything remotely that long before on round betting.

As you say, nobody is taking a multi million dollar bet on those kind of odds.

Found bigger odds. Bet 365 300/1 for Gary Cornish to knock Anthony Joshua out in round 12.

[Lackeos]

I don't necessarily support my proposed theory that Mayweather would bet hundreds of millions on himself losing by KO 12. Not saying he could get the bet booked, especially at peak odds. If it truly was his intention to bet against himself and extract maximum value, he would probably have to bet the max on casinos with max odds like 250:1, but then he would have to place more bets at other casinos at diminished odds like 200:1, 150:1 etc,. and doing so would probably shorten the odds of that method of victory betting so much that he would probably also have to place bets on Berto by any round KO, Berto as outright winner, etc.. His final overall odds would probably be around 65:1. Then he would have to worry about fraud investigations and such, so it would be a lot of work trying to conceal his associations with his collaborators while still trusting them to proxy-bet 6 or 7 figures on his behalf.

I was just throwing the concept out there as one of the more likely explanations of how he could possibly lose to Berto, considering that Berto is one of the worst fighters that Mayweather has fought in the last decade. Mayweather beat f*cking Saul Alvarez, JMM, and Pacquiao. The only evidence that would suggest that Mayweather could possibly lose to Berto is Mayweather's awful performance in Maidana 1; but Berto on his average day is not the same as Maidana on his very best day. Maidana has beat 2 of the fighters who beat Berto, as well as having beaten Mayweather's mini-me. Berto's best win in his entire career is like... Josesito Lopez, and Berto is not even in boxrec's top 20.