Have I fought NO not in the ring............. been around some fighter's who fought for world title's and lived with one who had to cut weight all the time he wouldn't fight any-one that was 5 weight classes above him he's trainer would have throttled him for even suggesting such a thing and this bloke had more fight's than any-one on this site i'v known him for 40 year's since I was 5 i'v trained some amateur boxer's with this ex fighters help so I do know abit about weight loss and boxing but probably not as much as you CHAMP........2 Quick question's for you so who's your pick in the rematch Green or Mundine the bigger one or the smaller one :?? and please don't say their the same size........2nd one Who in your honest opinionscottearley123456 wrote:Well actually ive fought a bit myself and i know what weights mean just as well if not better than most on here. Like yourself im a boxing fan but im also a fan of both fighters. Green fights at his walk around weight of 86ish kilos. He can come down to 82 mundine walks around probably 75kgs he can come up so what? Have you ever moved up and down weight classes to fight someone? I have. Walk around weight matters. Fighters that size are used to dropping 7kgs off their normal weight to fight. Mundine wont have to drop. All he has to do is train and go back to a similar weight he has been before.ClivePatrickLyons wrote:You must be a Green fan.........Me I'm a boxing fan you know the game that separate's the big boy's from the little boy's so some-one hasn'tscottearley123456 wrote:The past
The fight should have already happened. Green got schooled that night and like he said he had no excuses.
Mundine was the better business man at the time (has been stated by mundine) and dictated the terms with weight being one of them. Green had already moved to light heavy before the fight knowing that he was struggling to make super middle. Mundine knew green was struggling to make the weight and capitalized on it. Smart move. Would it have been a different out come ar a higher catchweight? Probably not but maybe.
Their careers
Since 2006 green has done a lot with his career mundine has not. Green has improved a lot and mundine has slid a little. Thats what makes the rematch interesting. Once on parr green is now VASTLY more popular. He holds the cards as far as dictating the fight but he wants it more than mundine therefore he gives up his hand and will loose on the negotiations. If green fights under light heavy then he is a fool and deserves to loose.
The weight/wait
Green cannot and should not make any weight under light heavy. Mundine is FAR from naturally suited to his current fighting weight. Does anyone know his walk around weight? Mundine has many times struggled to make his fight weight though less documented recently. This also suggests that he should move up in weight. My guess is that he drops around 7 kilos to weigh in. If this true the he doesn't have to gain that much more weight to fight green. Gaining weight at both fighters advanced age is far more natural and healthy than loosing muscle mass. Green needs to come down a few kilos mundine needs to come up a few. The natural weight difference really isn't that far apart and it should be easier and healthier for mundine to come up than green to go down. Advantage mundine.
The outcome
At greens more natural weight he has the opportunity to use his power both punching and wrestling. He may be able bully the hard to hit mundine and wear him down. Green has improved a lot skill wise since 2006. He uses the ring better and has improved his footwork greatly. His shots are much more accurate especially his jab. He now has a lot more patience and generally a higher ring IQ than before.
Mundine has not really shown anything new other than his weight loss. If anything his reflexes have slowed and that was one of the crucial factors in their first meeting. Green could not use his attributes because mundines reflexes made him to eva
In summary
The 2012 version of green would have KOed mundine by mid rounds if not earlier. He would have been to sharp and to powerful and mundine would have been a bunny in the headlights after green managed to catch up with him. However if green cant return to that form then there is little point in fighting mundine again because the version of green that showed up to fight Bolonti wouldn't win a round.
got a BIG advantage in SIZE then that way god dam cruiserweights don't fight fu..ing men who fight at 11 stone its called FIGHTING WEIGHT YOU EVER HEAR OF THAT what the hell has Mundine walking around weight got to do with the price of eggs f.ck all that's what.... so you try and justify in that way is plain stupid whatever Mundine and just about evey fighter on planet earth walk around weighing is not their fighting weight
ps...............I was a fan before Mundine and Green came along I will be a fan when their gone its BOXING NOT OPEN SLATHER GO FIGHT KIMBO SLICE IN SOME-ONE BACK YARD THEN FIGHT THE BEST FLYWEIGHT THAT YOU CAN FIND THAT'LL SELL ONLY IN AUSTRALIA
Your making a much bigger thing of this weight issue that it actually is. If they both have prep time then i cant see why its an issue. Its not like they are fighting in 4 months time
will have the advantage when these two different sized men fight in a boxing match :??
