Kell Brook VS Diego Chaves

[BAD INTENTIONS]

I think Chaves is a bit underrated, but I also think he clearly lost to Bradley, like 8-4 or something.

If Brook wants to be elite and get big fights, he has to look good against a guy Thurman KO'ed,
and most people believe Bradley clearly beat.

Tough fight. Good fight.

[jujigatame]

Decent but disappointing fight considering the other options out there. Brook should win pretty easily.

[crusader]

Decent but disappointing fight considering the other options out there. Brook should win pretty easily.

Pretty much this.

Not a bad fight but I'd like to see Brook in with a better opponent soon. I think he's a very good fighter but I don't believe that people like Dan, Ion, and Chaves allow him to shine like I think he can.

[PredatorHayds]

Not a bad fight.
People forget that if he beats Chaves then it's the second biggest name on his record.
He will be in these type of fights until a Khan blockbuster next summer.

[caldo2025]

Not a bad fight.
People forget that if he beats Chaves then it's the second biggest name on his record.
He will be in these type of fights until a Khan blockbuster next summer.

The statement above is right on the money to me. I don't know why people keep signing on to fight Diego Chaves. This kid brings relentless pressure and is clearly getting better with every single fight. Anyone thinking that Tim Bradley clearly won that fight needs to go back and watch it again. Chaves clearly won most of the later rounds in that fight and i think that he got screwed personally.

Brook is in for a rough 12 rounds, win or lose. I give credit to Brook for taking such a tough fight. I would avoid this kid like the plague.

[crusader]

I had Chaves losing 9-3 to Bradley and couldn't see more than 4 rounds for him. He gave Thurman a rough time early on but I didn't give him a round after the third, and to me the only notable fight which he looked like he had a good chance of not losing was his bout with Rios, in which he performed respectably but hardly looked like a top WW to me. So he's far from a knock over job,I think evidence suggests that he will push Brook more than people like Ion and Gavin, and even though it was a terrible decision his draw with Bradley can be bandied about (which I'm sure the MR cheerleader Nick Halling will do) to build hype, but I don't see him as a dangerous opponent and I'm not excited by his selection.....it's an okay fight but nothing more.

Brook is a top talent in my opinion and I hope we get to see him in with someone like Khan or Thurman soon rather than a guy Thurman already stopped. The win over Porter was nice but it's his only big win in a division with several big names that I think he's capable of beating and I think he lost a little steam with his recent opponent selection. I've also seen talk of him possibly fighting two-time Jo Jo Dan victim Kevin Bizier later this year, which would be awful.

[PredatorHayds]

Looks like Bizier would be classed as a mandatory freeing most of his 2016 with voluntary defences.

[johnswan1]

Problem for Brook is like Thurman, he's an up and coming name who none of the big names in the division want to cash in on their career against.

Brook/Thurman is 50/50 in my book, but why fight each other now when they can build their resumes by beating known names who are likely past their best - the likes of Rios, Marquez, Khan, Bradley, hell even Pacman. Both are more of a danger to each other than any of these guys are to themselves. They also would both likely earn more against any of these names than they would fighting each other.

So for the moment, both Thurman and Brook need to keep calling guys out to make a bit of noise whilst remaining calm and realistic about where they stand. Of the two Brook is the one with the title so he's arguably in a better position. I'd love to see either of Thurman/Brook in with Danny Garcia.

[jujigatame]

Chaves is probably his best opponent since Porter but that's not saying much. Even assuming all the Haymon-managed options were no-gos I was hoping we'd at least get Bradley.

[ikorolev]

Why not Bradley ? Clearly cherry picking.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Why not Bradley ? Clearly cherry picking.

I'm sure Bradley will want a tonne of Money, you make it sound like it's an easy fight to make - it isn't. Bradley is a big name, and will want a lot of money to take the fight.

[ikorolev]

Why not Bradley ? Clearly cherry picking.

I'm sure Bradley will want a tonne of Money, you make it sound like it's an easy fight to make - it isn't. Bradley is a big name, and will want a lot of money to take the fight.

Bradley would bring more viewers and probably money from HBO.

[PredatorHayds]

Bradley is one of the biggest earners in the division.
Hearn would struggle to afford him.
He got 2million for the Chaves fight.
He'd probably want closer to 5 for Brook.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Bradley is one of the biggest earners in the division.
Hearn would struggle to afford him.
He got 2million for the Chaves fight.
He'd probably want closer to 5 for Brook.

Precisely, Kell isn't a huge draw, and Bradley is used to being at or near the top of the bill, he's not going to be coming over for peanuts to face Brook, only way the fight happens is if Brook took the thin end of the wedge, and I don't see that happening.

That's a fight for 2-3 fights down the line when Brook is a bit of a bigger draw himself.

[PredatorHayds]

Bradley is one of the biggest earners in the division.
Hearn would struggle to afford him.
He got 2million for the Chaves fight.
He'd probably want closer to 5 for Brook.

Precisely, Kell isn't a huge draw, and Bradley is used to being at or near the top of the bill, he's not going to be coming over for peanuts to face Brook, only way the fight happens is if Brook took the thin end of the wedge, and I don't see that happening.

That's a fight for 2-3 fights down the line when Brook is a bit of a bigger draw himself.

These fights get made easily after Khan if he wins.
That Khan fight would really open doors for Brook.
Be interesting to see if he avoid Haymon in the meantime

[jamesmcdonnell]

Bradley is one of the biggest earners in the division.
Hearn would struggle to afford him.
He got 2million for the Chaves fight.
He'd probably want closer to 5 for Brook.

Precisely, Kell isn't a huge draw, and Bradley is used to being at or near the top of the bill, he's not going to be coming over for peanuts to face Brook, only way the fight happens is if Brook took the thin end of the wedge, and I don't see that happening.

That's a fight for 2-3 fights down the line when Brook is a bit of a bigger draw himself.

These fights get made easily after Khan if he wins.
That Khan fight would really open doors for Brook.
Be interesting to see if he avoid Haymon in the meantime

Well, that's a big assumption that the Khan fight happens. I agree, that yes, he would be a big name if he beats Khan in a showdown. However, I have my doubts whether that one will ever happen.

[PredatorHayds]

The big fights are a lot harder to get in the WW division with him not being with Al Haymon.

[EJA]

Easy fight for Brook. Chaves simply doesnt have the skills nor the power to beat him.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Hearn quite clearly hasn't got the money to bring over a big name like Bradley, and not a chance he sends his man over to America to fight on another promoters show yet.

[Batley18]

I think it is a good test for Brook, he should win, but Chaves carries dangers and is known in the US. If Brook can impress then it will do a lot for his reputation.

[Badhusker]

I think it is a good test for Brook, he should win, but Chaves carries dangers and is known in the US. If Brook can impress then it will do a lot for his reputation.

I agree. Chavez is his 2nd toughest opponent to date, and will have a common opponent comparison to some other top guys.

[Tanzio]

Chaves is the keg or nymph of the welter weight party. He is a utilitarian component.

Wear your protection Kell.

[diddy]

The Chaves-Bradley cards were an f'n travesty.

[davie]

Brook/Thurman is 50/50 in my book, but why fight each other now when they can build their resumes by beating known names who are likely past their best - the likes of Rios, Marquez, Khan, Bradley, hell even Pacman. Both are more of a danger to each other than any of these guys are to themselves. They also would both likely earn more against any of these names than they would fighting each other.

I think you're selling Khan, Bradley and Pacman short here, perhaps even Marquez if he still has enough left in the tank.
These are still some really challenging fights and I wouldn't be shocked if one or two of them could pick up wins against Brook or Thurman.
Not sure if your over rating Brook/Thurman or under rating those others but none of these guys should be considered has beens for the next generation to feast on quite yet.

[johnswan1]

Hearn quite clearly hasn't got the money to bring over a big name like Bradley, and not a chance he sends his man over to America to fight on another promoters show yet.

What, you mean like how he already brought him over to America to fight on another promoters show when he beat Porter?