Will Floyd be missed when he's gone?

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 08 Sep 2015, 06:20

Will you miss Floyd when he’s gone?

I’ve never considered myself a fan of his style and his fights have always been disappointing given their one sided nature and lack of action. His events are arguably bad for the long term health and profile of the sport too as the overall feeling from casuals afterwards tends to be that they were ripped off.

In saying that, I haven’t missed out on watching a Floyd fight without knowing the outcome for years (I live in the UK so record the fight which is usually not PPV and takes place around 4am and then get up and watch it next morning as though live).

I’m not sure myself whether the draw for me personally is wanting to see him lose, or fear of missing out on watching history unfold if he does, or just to see pure boxing mastery in motion. Probably all of things combined, and the PPV numbers over his career strongly suggest that most of us are guilty of forgetting about the last disappointing night and look forward to the next one.

Assuming he does retire after Saturday night, how many will miss him or do the vast majority want to see the back of him?

Is boxing ready to appoint a successor as the flagship main attraction of boxing? The DLH-Mayweather fight at the time felt like the baton being passed from DLH to Floyd but to me it doesn’t seem there is a clear successor just yet.

Maybe it will be Canelo if he can look impressive against Cotto, maybe it will be one of GGG or Kovalev, although neither of those are spring chickens and fighters outside of North/South America & UK with hard to pronounce names tend not to become global stars in boxing (Pacman being the exception). Joshua has the potential for mega cross over appeal but is still a novice.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Sep 2015, 06:52

Not so much.

As a figurehead and talent yes, - but frankly I find his fights boring, and have done for years. He was great to watch earlier in his career, but his economical and cautious later years, whilst very clever, are not entertaining.

reggaereggae · Post by **reggaereggae** » 08 Sep 2015, 12:15

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Not so much.

As a figurehead and talent yes, - but frankly I find his fights boring, and have done for years. He was great to watch earlier in his career, but his economical and cautious later years, whilst very clever, are not entertaining.

I totally agree. He's totally uninspiring to watch.

jas80s · Post by **jas80s** » 08 Sep 2015, 13:39

He will be appreciated more once he becomes a historical fighter, of course.

But, he will be replaced as the primary PPV attraction in the sport and almost certainly by someone who is as or more exciting, so I can't really see that he will be greatly missed by the majority of boxing fans.

Freedom2013 · Post by **Freedom2013** » 08 Sep 2015, 14:03

The sport of boxing will be better off without Floyd Mayweather.

His dull, overly defensive, extremely cautious style has driven away many potential boxing fans.

His despicable behavior (beating up women) outside the ring has degraded the sport of boxing, considering he's the highest-profile fighter. Floyd is a very poor role model for children.

Ricky_ · Post by **Ricky_** » 08 Sep 2015, 14:33

I miss 135/140 Floyd. Man, watching an offensive Floyd was watching true greatness.

Now the guy sucks ass so badly he just tries to get through fights without taking a shot, hugging it out and throwing minimal amount of punches. He should have retired after he lost to Maidana, that was a sorry night, to see an ATG fighter fall to that level of performance. I'll be glad to see the back of him, he can ride into the sunset with money he raped from the sport in his recent episodes of "huggies", but in future discussions of boxing i'll always discuss what a standard this guy set in fights such as Corrales, Gatti, Hatton.

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 08 Sep 2015, 17:48

Freedom2013 wrote:
His despicable behavior (beating up women) outside the ring has degraded the sport of boxing, considering he's the highest-profile fighter. Floyd is a very poor role model for children.

I find Mayweather to be a piece of crap as I have stated numerous times.
But lets not make boxing and boxers out to be shining role models for children.
We have convicted rapists,robbers,drug dealers and murderers in this sport.

caldo2025 · Post by **caldo2025** » 08 Sep 2015, 18:30

I picked "NO" for an answer but i'll say that the reason is NO because he made boxing a better sport as much as I hate to say it. I actually consider Floyd to be the Tiger Woods of Boxing. Until Tiger came along, golfers were playing for chicken scratch. He brought more attention to the sport through sponsors and new fans. Now you rarely see a PGA event with a total purse under $3million. On a smaller scale, Floyd has done the same to boxing. All of these young cats clamoring to get a shot at Floyd should also appreciate what he's leaving behind for them. Again, i can't stand Floyd but do you think Cotto and Canelo would be making a combined $40 million for their fight if it weren't for Floyd paving the way? The answer is no.

Floyd is leaving the game a heck of lot better than he found it. All of these young cats bitching about him never giving them a shot should kiss his bean bag because they are going to make a heck of a lot more money because of him. I'm glad Floyd never gave some of these young punks a chance to beat him. They should just be happy to be in the sport fighting for better money.

KBB · Post by **KBB** » 08 Sep 2015, 19:52

johnswan1 wrote:Will you miss Floyd when he’s gone?

I’ve never considered myself a fan of his style and his fights have always been disappointing given their one sided nature and lack of action. His events are arguably bad for the long term health and profile of the sport too as the overall feeling from casuals afterwards tends to be that they were ripped off.

In saying that, I haven’t missed out on watching a Floyd fight without knowing the outcome for years (I live in the UK so record the fight which is usually not PPV and takes place around 4am and then get up and watch it next morning as though live).

I’m not sure myself whether the draw for me personally is wanting to see him lose, or fear of missing out on watching history unfold if he does, or just to see pure boxing mastery in motion. Probably all of things combined, and the PPV numbers over his career strongly suggest that most of us are guilty of forgetting about the last disappointing night and look forward to the next one.

Assuming he does retire after Saturday night, how many will miss him or do the vast majority want to see the back of him?

Is boxing ready to appoint a successor as the flagship main attraction of boxing? The DLH-Mayweather fight at the time felt like the baton being passed from DLH to Floyd but to me it doesn’t seem there is a clear successor just yet.

Maybe it will be Canelo if he can look impressive against Cotto, maybe it will be one of GGG or Kovalev, although neither of those are spring chickens and fighters outside of North/South America & UK with hard to pronounce names tend not to become global stars in boxing (Pacman being the exception). Joshua has the potential for mega cross over appeal but is still a novice.

I love his dominance and I often find his opponents very boring because he shuts them down so terribly that they look like they are doing nothing though they are trying their poor little hearts out.

It's a shame that a modern day Rembrandt of Boxing is such a Savant that he is totally underappreciated and unappreciated that it won't be until long after he is gone that people will look back and respect how easily he made it look.

It's just too bad that he reaps all the criticism of those who blame him for not just going punch for punch or allowing himself to just sit there and take punishment just to entertain a bunch of nobodies who has never laced them up before and have little understanding on how just one punch could possibly end one's life.

Oh well, I've come to expect garbage posts like these from modern day fans, it seems we're in a generation where the appreciation for fighters who moved often in the ring like SRL, Ali, Camacho and likes are no longer appreciated and referred to as runners rather than the master boxers and craftsmen they were and how they used each and every part of the ring/squared circle to get the job done.

From reading crap like this above one who never got a chance to see Floyd fight would ASSume all of his fights were boring-one sided shutouts and all he did was run but if you were to look at the following fights you'd see that just isn't true:

Corrales
Gatti
JLC 1 (where i believe he lost by 4 rounds)
Hatton
Cotto
N'dou
Corley
Jesus Chavez
Augustus

But oh how quickly we forget and only look at his most recent bouts where a man of his age would've long been retired in the era where Ali and SRL fought in.

I guess we're all entitled to our opinions though no matter how off-centered, and filled with hate they are.

Lackeos · Post by **Lackeos** » 08 Sep 2015, 20:47

I won't miss him when he's gone. Not at all. I'm never going to wish there was one more Mayweather fight to watch, or have an itch to go back and re-watch a fight from his past. I have to admit that he is currently the top attraction in boxing, and when some other guy becomes that main attraction, he will likely be much better for the sport than Mayweather is. Mayweather combines a terrible personality, extremely boring style, and matchmaking that was frustratingly cautious many times (though he delivered a few times). Hopefully the next top ticket in boxing is someone with more consistently ambitious matchmaking, a more entertaining style, and a better personality.

KBB · Post by **KBB** » 08 Sep 2015, 21:06

Lackeos wrote:I won't miss him when he's gone. Not at all. I'm never going to wish there was one more Mayweather fight to watch, or have an itch to go back and re-watch a fight from his past. I have to admit that he is currently the top attraction in boxing, and when some other guy becomes that main attraction, he will likely be much better for the sport than Mayweather is. Mayweather combines a terrible personality, extremely boring style, and matchmaking that was frustratingly cautious many times (though he delivered a few times). Hopefully the next top ticket in boxing is someone with more consistently ambitious matchmaking, a more entertaining style, and a better personality.

You mean like all the world champions and world beaters GGG has been facing?? LOL

Lackeos · Post by **Lackeos** » 08 Sep 2015, 22:31

KBB wrote:
Lackeos wrote:I won't miss him when he's gone. Not at all. I'm never going to wish there was one more Mayweather fight to watch, or have an itch to go back and re-watch a fight from his past. I have to admit that he is currently the top attraction in boxing, and when some other guy becomes that main attraction, he will likely be much better for the sport than Mayweather is. Mayweather combines a terrible personality, extremely boring style, and matchmaking that was frustratingly cautious many times (though he delivered a few times). Hopefully the next top ticket in boxing is someone with more consistently ambitious matchmaking, a more entertaining style, and a better personality.
You mean like all the world champions and world beaters GGG has been facing?? LOL

It is not my expectation that Golovkin will take over as the main attraction. And you're right, I would not find Golovkin's matchmaking satisfactory if he were the head honcho. My expectation is that in the next 5-6 years, someone like Saul Alvarez, Terence Crawford, Danny Garcia, Leo Santa Cruz, Roman Gonzalez, Juan Francisco Estrada, Javier Fortuna, Naoya Inoue, Jermell Charlo, etc. will improve, pick-up some some key wins over top 10 p4p opponents, and become the new guy. Of course, nationality and weight division play a factor in how big of a draw they can become, so someone like Roman Gonzalez would have quite an uphill battle if he were to ever hope to do a million ppv buys.

I think the next major attraction will be Saul Alvarez. By age 25, he will have soon already fought Cotto, Mayweather, Lara, Kirkland, Angulo, Trout, Mosley, and Cintron. He's already a moderate draw, he's the right nationality, the right weight, and he still has time to improve his skills. If Alvarez gets a clear victory over Cotto, his boxrec rating could be in excess of 1100 or 1200 by age 25 and 4 months. At the same age, Mayweather's boxrec rating was 1129 (which Alvarez had already exceeded 2 years ago).

macaca · Post by **macaca** » 08 Sep 2015, 23:36

Missed only by the die hard retards that paid to watch him

Emil · Post by **Emil** » 09 Sep 2015, 01:49

Lackeos wrote:I won't miss him when he's gone. Not at all. I'm never going to wish there was one more Mayweather fight to watch, or have an itch to go back and re-watch a fight from his past. I have to admit that he is currently the top attraction in boxing, and when some other guy becomes that main attraction, he will likely be much better for the sport than Mayweather is. Mayweather combines a terrible personality, extremely boring style, and matchmaking that was frustratingly cautious many times (though he delivered a few times). Hopefully the next top ticket in boxing is someone with more consistently ambitious matchmaking, a more entertaining style, and a better personality.

x2. You sum up my feelings pretty well.

T.M.K · Post by **T.M.K** » 09 Sep 2015, 08:26

Boxing as a sport, will be a lot worse off when Mayweather is no longer around.......

"T.M.K"

caldo2025 · Post by **caldo2025** » 09 Sep 2015, 09:12

Ricky_ wrote:I miss 135/140 Floyd. Man, watching an offensive Floyd was watching true greatness.

Now the guy sucks ass so badly he just tries to get through fights without taking a shot, hugging it out and throwing minimal amount of punches. He should have retired after he lost to Maidana, that was a sorry night, to see an ATG fighter fall to that level of performance. I'll be glad to see the back of him, he can ride into the sunset with money he raped from the sport in his recent episodes of "huggies", but in future discussions of boxing i'll always discuss what a standard this guy set in fights such as Corrales, Gatti, Hatton.

I can't tell you how many times people have accused me of being "Ricky" so I'm just setting the record straight here. I'm not Ricky. Ok, that feels better. Similar view of Floyd but you seem to hate him quite a bit more than me.

palooka · Post by **palooka** » 09 Sep 2015, 09:53

There won't be the same purses in boxing so there will be an effect. I don't really look forward to his bouts anymore, when you've seen one you've seen them all. He has been a tremendous champion and has earned so much, he's really pushed the envelope money wise and hopefully someone with a more exciting style and a more cavalier attitude towards opponents will have watched and learned and will earn big too.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 09 Sep 2015, 10:08

T.M.K wrote:Boxing as a sport, will be a lot worse off when Mayweather is no longer around.......

"T.M.K"

I disagree entirely.

Floyd has made his division boring, by dominating so easily, and has become a funnel for money, leaving less for other fighters. The division will be more competitive and exciting when he is gone.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 09 Sep 2015, 10:14

Mayweather's impact is about marketing. Once he's gone someone else will get the same marketing treatment and get the money. Might take a few years to build up the bullshit but it will happen.

Let's hope we get someone not so cautious with matchmaking and more willing to fight.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 09 Sep 2015, 10:18

Ezzard wrote:Mayweather's impact is about marketing. Once he's gone someone else will get the same marketing treatment and get the money. Might take a few years to build up the bullshit but it will happen.

Let's hope we get someone not so cautious with matchmaking and more willing to fight.

Hopefully Canelo will go on to reignite things and become a big star.

It's poor to have someone who is the biggest name in the sport provide such awful spectacles, it turns casuals off the sport. Floyd has made a huge chunk of money, but the last few years have been piss-poor entertainment wise. His last exciting performance was Hatton.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 09 Sep 2015, 11:30

His performances turn off the casuals and his matchmaking turns off the die-hards. He's great if you're hard-of-thinking or if you're so insecure you have a deep rooted need to always be on the winning team.

My fear is that it will be Ward. A terrific fighter but similarly sterile.

Noxy · Post by **Noxy** » 09 Sep 2015, 13:14

Yes, a proper character and brilliant fighter. He's been in loads of superfights. His fights weren't as spectacular as some more ferocious dudes, that doesn't meant he won't be missed though. The media will miss him and all, he provided them with loads of copy.

KBB · Post by **KBB** » 09 Sep 2015, 20:15

Lackeos wrote:It is not my expectation that Golovkin will take over as the main attraction. And you're right, I would not find Golovkin's matchmaking satisfactory if he were the head honcho. My expectation is that in the next 5-6 years, someone like Saul Alvarez, Terence Crawford, Danny Garcia, Leo Santa Cruz, Roman Gonzalez, Juan Francisco Estrada, Javier Fortuna, Naoya Inoue, Jermell Charlo, etc. will improve, pick-up some some key wins over top 10 p4p opponents, and become the new guy. Of course, nationality and weight division play a factor in how big of a draw they can become, so someone like Roman Gonzalez would have quite an uphill battle if he were to ever hope to do a million ppv buys.

I think the next major attraction will be Saul Alvarez. By age 25, he will have soon already fought Cotto, Mayweather, Lara, Kirkland, Angulo, Trout, Mosley, and Cintron. He's already a moderate draw, he's the right nationality, the right weight, and he still has time to improve his skills. If Alvarez gets a clear victory over Cotto, his boxrec rating could be in excess of 1100 or 1200 by age 25 and 4 months. At the same age, Mayweather's boxrec rating was 1129 (which Alvarez had already exceeded 2 years ago).

The major difference being is that when Floyd was asking Bob Arum way back when he was with Top Rank for the best fights vs the young DLH, when Mosley was ducking him after the Vargas fight, when Kostya and all the rest of them that he was unable to get into the ring because of Bob not willing to pay the man the money he knew he was worth and Canelo actually being the one major Cashcow for a fighter turned Promoter who is willing to throw him in against anyone and it become even clearer why what you spotlighted happened.

If Arum wasn't Floyd's Promoter back then we probably would've seen all the fights we wanted to see Floyd in way back when but that's history, besides Canelo will never be on Mayweather's level just as Pacquiao will never be either.

Tony1244 · Post by **Tony1244** » 10 Sep 2015, 09:45

I voted "No" not because he isn't great but because of some of his "fights." May-Berti is as much of a JOKE as Briggs-Marrone.

Obviously, Mayweather doesn't have the confidence to fight GGG. 13 whole pounds for someone as great as Mayweather supposedly is, give me a break. SR Robinson fought people bigger.

Batley18 · Post by **Batley18** » 10 Sep 2015, 09:56

I am surprised with the voting so far, I think he will be massively missed. Sport quite often thrives on a dominant character or team, and the desire is there to dethrown the dominant figure. It is a bit different in boxing because there are a range of weight classes, but Floyd has been P4P for over a decade. There is no one that springs to mind when I think of a natural successor for that particular crown.

Say what you like about Floyd's fights, boring or not, people tune in...and not just the big boxing fans. Yes he is full of himself, yes he flaunts his cash and bad mouths the boxing Gods, but he is this generations elite boxer.