Is boxing busienss the most curropt business in sports?

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Chepppaaa
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Is boxing busienss the most curropt business in sports?

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crap robbery descisions (last pascal fight)

olympic style drug testing, but still floyd gets away with doing what he did.......like never anything happened, shouldnt pacquiao-mayweather be a NC if he took something against the rule, i dont get it.....$$$ seems to rule everything in this corrupt sport

bought ref (bayless in the maidana fight, where maidana was not allowed a single time to ffight his fight, which is inside boxing, but floyd was allowed to do whatever he wanted without anything happening, i am just saying 80 + times holding in 12 rounds :doh:

totaly bought ref, basicly everything cheated, how could something like povetkin-klitschko happen, a greco roman wrestling match in a boxing ring, serious :doh:

its realy comes down to be the same mafia sport it was 60 years ago
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Yup it's a scandal. We all know ref's and jufges often favour "the" guy buy having the drug testers in your pocket is an outrage.

I hope the FBI get involved and blow this whole scandal open.

It seems very clear to me reading the rules an exemption can only be granted to an athlete undergoing a serious medical procedure such as surgery.

2 major questions.

What grounds was a TUE requested, what was the serious medical emergency that required 14x the legal limit of IV?

Why are USADA even giving out TUEs? They are simply testers, they know this stuff must be reported and the Governing Bodies (in this case nsac) grant them if they see the need.
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Yup it is. Always has been, always will be. Just read the quote in the location field I have to the left of this post.
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Baby Face Finster wrote:Yup it is. Always has been, always will be. Just read the quote in the location field I have to the left of this post.
true :TU:
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Ricky_ wrote:Yup it's a scandal. We all know ref's and jufges often favour "the" guy buy having the drug testers in your pocket is an outrage.

I hope the FBI get involved and blow this whole scandal open.

It seems very clear to me reading the rules an exemption can only be granted to an athlete undergoing a serious medical procedure such as surgery.

2 major questions.

What grounds was a TUE requested, what was the serious medical emergency that required 14x the legal limit of IV?

Why are USADA even giving out TUEs? They are simply testers, they know this stuff must be reported and the Governing Bodies (in this case nsac) grant them if they see the need.

you are totaly right

the biggest problem i have with floyd buying the drug tester (thats how it certainly seems) is that i have a feeling he also controls other people and on top drug testers. i mean, ref, testers, everybody lets floyd do what he wants to do. wrestle, crab and hold all day in a maidana fight, no problem, bayless says and does nothing. take some illegal stuff in your blood, no problem, testers do nothing about it.

but as soon as pacquiao does something, which is even legal, pain injection for his shoulder, no, this cant be done.

just does not make sense.
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Floyd should just be banned, record erased etc. A bit like lance in cycling...
One thing is cheating. This is just outrages.
But i aint actually that surpriced. Dude was, is and always will be a disgrace; in boxing, but also in general.
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Yes without a doubt it's a crooks paradise.
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Football is very dodgy and always has been , any professional sportnhas corruption, cheating and swindling.
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palooka wrote:Football is very dodgy and always has been , any professional sportnhas corruption, cheating and swindling.
Where there's money there's corruption at every level?
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:TU:
Butterbean wrote:Floyd should just be banned, record erased etc. A bit like lance in cycling...
One thing is cheating. This is just outrages.
But i aint actually that surpriced. Dude was, is and always will be a disgrace; in boxing, but also in general.
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Butterbean wrote:Floyd should just be banned, record erased etc. A bit like lance in cycling...
One thing is cheating. This is just outrages.
But i aint actually that surpriced. Dude was, is and always will be a disgrace; in boxing, but also in general.

I see your a big fan of Mayweather :lol:
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Rexob wrote:
Butterbean wrote:Floyd should just be banned, record erased etc. A bit like lance in cycling...
One thing is cheating. This is just outrages.
But i aint actually that surpriced. Dude was, is and always will be a disgrace; in boxing, but also in general.

I see your a big fan of Mayweather :lol:
Seriously, roids or what ever, floyds an amazing athlete, and supreme at his game. But his style, way of winning fights, acting, his cockyness, arrogance, ignorence... Dont get me started.
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Butterbean wrote:
Rexob wrote:
Butterbean wrote:Floyd should just be banned, record erased etc. A bit like lance in cycling...
One thing is cheating. This is just outrages.
But i aint actually that surpriced. Dude was, is and always will be a disgrace; in boxing, but also in general.

I see your a big fan of Mayweather :lol:
Seriously, roids or what ever, floyds an amazing athlete, and supreme at his game. But his style, way of winning fights, acting, his cockyness, arrogance, ignorence... Dont get me started.

What else?
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Shouldnt be dancing to hard on your foes grave...
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Post by asdfjkl »

He's an disgrace for his nation, but on the other side, Floyd Landis, Lance Armstrong, I guess it's a part of American tradition, appearantly they can only be succesfull by using illegal tactics, otherwise they just aren't any good.


I'm happy the heavyweight league is still quite clean, but as you might expect, the Americans don't have serious fighters in that league.
The lower weightdivisions are filled by drugsusers, that's why I never understood why people can be interested by those small people fights.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised that if you go to Africa, you can find a hell of a lot of 20 year olds that weight less and can easely beat this guy.
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asdfjkl wrote:He's an disgrace for his nation, but on the other side, Floyd Landis, Lance Armstrong, I guess it's a part of American tradition, appearantly they can only be succesfull by using illegal tactics, otherwise they just aren't any good.


I'm happy the heavyweight league is still quite clean, but as you might expect, the Americans don't have serious fighters in that league.
The lower weightdivisions are filled by drugsusers, that's why I never understood why people can be interested by those small people fights.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised that if you go to Africa, you can find a hell of a lot of 20 year olds that weight less and can easely beat this guy.
More than you think would kick his ass. But not in a ring, using gloves and rules of boxing. Imo youre either trolling, or does not know fighting in general.
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asdfjkl wrote:He's an disgrace for his nation, but on the other side, Floyd Landis, Lance Armstrong, I guess it's a part of American tradition, appearantly they can only be succesfull by using illegal tactics, otherwise they just aren't any good.


I'm happy the heavyweight league is still quite clean, but as you might expect, the Americans don't have serious fighters in that league.
The lower weightdivisions are filled by drugsusers, that's why I never understood why people can be interested by those small people fights.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised that if you go to Africa, you can find a hell of a lot of 20 year olds that weight less and can easely beat this guy.
:lol:

Oh my...I don't even know where to start.
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palooka wrote:Football is very dodgy and always has been , any professional sportnhas corruption, cheating and swindling.
fifa and uefa and throughout latin america, not just the flopping and cheating during the games,
but the ref's and the organizers all the way to the top have been subject to all kinds of criminal
investigations and some top figures recently had to step down under indictments. it doesn't
have to be pro sports, necessarily. college basketball players have been convicted and sent
to prison for point shaving and refs with gambling habits have been caught taking payoffs.
in judo, the japanese players get to spend all day on the ground if they are ground specialists
and an american who has demonstrated better ground game (nawaza) than a japanese player
will immediately get stood up as soon as they hit the ground and there is a stall for even a
second. the IOC is one big whorehouse. i loved baseball growing up, but i always knew it was
almost as fake as pro wrastling with all the roids and umpires changing the strike zones from
one batter to the next and using different zones for different pitchers in the same game.
if i had to think of the most corrupt, it might be one of the gambling sports most people never
think about, like jai alai or harness racing. pro boxing is corrupt, but there still is a semblance of
a real sport in there and it is subject to more government oversight than most sports.
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I'd say cycling is probably up there. But even they at least have some sort of unified field.

Boxing is literally the inmates running he asylum. Can you imagine if Lance Armstrong (or any cyclist) got to choose the venue of the race, promote the event and pay the organization that crowns the winner?
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Bobbyptsd wrote:I'd say cycling is probably up there. But even they at least have some sort of unified field.

Boxing is literally the inmates running he asylum. Can you imagine if Lance Armstrong (or any cyclist) got to choose the venue of the race, promote the event and pay the organization that crowns the winner?

exactly

basicyl lance choosing everything. from the ref, how the ref has to handle himself and how the ref has to handle the opponent :lol:

how the size of the ring, the gloves, EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EVEN CONTROLLING USADA hahahahhaha.......

tester:" you took something illegal"

floyd:"who cares, just shut the f..... up before and after the pacquiao fight, but when my next fight is than you are alowed to say something to promo my next fight."

tester:" okay floyd"


pacquiao:" can i take some pain injection for my shoulder wich hurts."

tester:"no"

:doh: :doh: :doh:
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Floyd will never be considered TBE now and for that, i'm beyond happy about. I feel that even more things will come to light over the next year destroying his legacy even more so even though it didn't happen in the ring like I had hoped, it happened. Floyd's legacy for being dirty, boring and not fighting the best will win out and he will end up just being one of the best fighters in a particular era not an all time great. That is what i'm MOST exciting about and it feels great.
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