YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
-
Mimmy
- Heavyweight

Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
What would Tarver be like as a possible opponent? Or the unbeaten Szpilka?
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Tarver or Cunningham good choices as also skilled.
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Dillian Whyte (since its already in the works)
Teper
Pulev
Wilder
Teper
Pulev
Wilder
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
World Title fight? He just battered a joiner.
Hearn seems more interested in flogging some tickets than progression because the quality of his opposition is getting worse. LEt's see what he does when he comes up against someone who isn't Tomato can, that he can't blow out in the space of a couple of minutes.
Get big Tony Thompson over here, he loves coming to the UK, can take 1 hell of a shot and can punch back. And is a SP.
TT would be a bit of jump in class though, maybe he needs a Chisora in between.
Hearn seems more interested in flogging some tickets than progression because the quality of his opposition is getting worse. LEt's see what he does when he comes up against someone who isn't Tomato can, that he can't blow out in the space of a couple of minutes.
Get big Tony Thompson over here, he loves coming to the UK, can take 1 hell of a shot and can punch back. And is a SP.
TT would be a bit of jump in class though, maybe he needs a Chisora in between.
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Great route for AJ .pulev would be the fight for me where AJ would prove his world title credentials he's still a hungry fighter rather than say Thompson who's at the stage where it would just be a paydayFinn wrote:Dillian Whyte (since its already in the works)
Teper
Pulev
Wilder
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
I like this except I'd switch the Chisora fight for a Haye fight at the Olympic Stadium in the summer.T.M.K wrote:Hi all,
simple as that really: how slow/fast would you plan the route for AJ to take? Please bare i mind he has the Whyte fight scheduled for Dec 2015 and rumours of Teper in March 2016..... - plus he stated that he wanted to win the British and European titles so he had gone the traditional route.
Dec 2015: Whyte - wins British / defends Commonwealth
Mar 2016: Teper - wins European title
Jun 2016: Chisora? - defend Brit/Comm/Euro titles
Sep 2016: Jennings or Stiverne or Thompson?
Dec2016: World title fight
Thanks
"T.M.K"
If Haye does indeed come back.
-
asdfjkl
- Heavyweight

Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
I'd have to say it matters how the fights continue, if it become fights like yesterday (10 minits of work max, barely even out of breath fights)
17 October Luis Ortiz
December Whyte
Early Februari Alexander Ustinov
End March Lucas Browne
Early May Artur Szpilka
Early Juli Ruslan Chagaev
End August Kubrat Pulev
End October Povetkin
Early januari Klitschko
But I'd have to say with that that this is really speculating, if Klitschko loses against Fury it's a completely differend story again, if Joshua loses or get injured or some of his opponends do or refuse to fight or whatever then it would automatically become totally differend.
On the other side I do think Wilder his management made a big mistake by taking 0.0 risk.
He's pretty much forced to fight Povetkin next but he's completely not ready for it at all.
I would schedule a lot of fights though, not like just once every 4 months but really like every 1,5 months and if nobody wants then rapidly move on. Only when the fights suddenly get worse (12 rounds fights and such) I would slow down fighting new opponends.
17 October Luis Ortiz
December Whyte
Early Februari Alexander Ustinov
End March Lucas Browne
Early May Artur Szpilka
Early Juli Ruslan Chagaev
End August Kubrat Pulev
End October Povetkin
Early januari Klitschko
But I'd have to say with that that this is really speculating, if Klitschko loses against Fury it's a completely differend story again, if Joshua loses or get injured or some of his opponends do or refuse to fight or whatever then it would automatically become totally differend.
On the other side I do think Wilder his management made a big mistake by taking 0.0 risk.
He's pretty much forced to fight Povetkin next but he's completely not ready for it at all.
I would schedule a lot of fights though, not like just once every 4 months but really like every 1,5 months and if nobody wants then rapidly move on. Only when the fights suddenly get worse (12 rounds fights and such) I would slow down fighting new opponends.
-
Boxerbeetle
- Light Heavyweight
- Posts: 32788
- Joined: 19 Sep 2011, 10:59
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
If Wilder fights Povetkin, I will eat my hat. He's going to drop the belt.asdfjkl wrote: On the other side I do think Wilder his management made a big mistake by taking 0.0 risk.
He's pretty much forced to fight Povetkin next but he's completely not ready for it at all.
-
asdfjkl
- Heavyweight

Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Oh come on, for 10M+ I'll take the fight with Povetkin, I might fake an injury after 2 minits but I'll show up in that ring!Boxerbeetle wrote:If Wilder fights Povetkin, I will eat my hat. He's going to drop the belt.asdfjkl wrote: On the other side I do think Wilder his management made a big mistake by taking 0.0 risk.
He's pretty much forced to fight Povetkin next but he's completely not ready for it at all.
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Pretty much Frank Bruno stuff so far, we need to find out when Joshua has his Jumbo Cummings moment how he reacts. I can't see Whyte offering much on last nights evidence
-
Terminator666
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 1662
- Joined: 06 Nov 2007, 10:18
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Wonder how many more fights before they all become PPV?
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Whyte
Wach
Stiverne
Wilder
Wlad
Wach
Stiverne
Wilder
Wlad
-
keithmoonhangover
- Cruiserweight
- Posts: 16893
- Joined: 16 Sep 2010, 10:42
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
I'd pick Ortiz to beat Joshua.asdfjkl wrote:I'd have to say it matters how the fights continue, if it become fights like yesterday (10 minits of work max, barely even out of breath fights)
17 October Luis Ortiz
December Whyte
Early Februari Alexander Ustinov
End March Lucas Browne
Early May Artur Szpilka
Early Juli Ruslan Chagaev
End August Kubrat Pulev
End October Povetkin
Early januari Klitschko
But I'd have to say with that that this is really speculating, if Klitschko loses against Fury it's a completely differend story again, if Joshua loses or get injured or some of his opponends do or refuse to fight or whatever then it would automatically become totally differend.
On the other side I do think Wilder his management made a big mistake by taking 0.0 risk.
He's pretty much forced to fight Povetkin next but he's completely not ready for it at all.
I would schedule a lot of fights though, not like just once every 4 months but really like every 1,5 months and if nobody wants then rapidly move on. Only when the fights suddenly get worse (12 rounds fights and such) I would slow down fighting new opponends.
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Whyte late in 2015, Teper early in 2016, a notably durable fighter like Wach after that, then close the year with contender like Pulev.
Of course that's assuming he wins each preceding contest fairly handily.
Of course that's assuming he wins each preceding contest fairly handily.
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
December - Whyte
Feb/March - Thompson
June - Chisora/Teper winner (if it happens)
September - Bryant Jennings
December - Wilder
Feb/March - Thompson
June - Chisora/Teper winner (if it happens)
September - Bryant Jennings
December - Wilder
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
I think Hearn has done a very good job of building up fights which don't necessarily live up to the bill. Or should I say putting bums on seats for these events.
But since Bakhtov, have we really seen an increase in quality opposition? Sprott, Gavern, Lumbano-Love are all top 100 journeymen, and Johnston was an ageing fighter who'd lost to anyone who's anyone.
Why aren't we starting to see fighters with winning records such as Lucas Browne, And Ruiz, Robert Helenius or even fighters who have experience but aren't pushing 40 like Chris Arreola, and Arnold Gjergjaj.
Granted it's difficult to find the right opposition, and not exactly complaining about the opposition that AJ has come against in the early stages of his pro career. But maybe it's time to scrutinise what an actual step up in opposition looks like. Still not that convinced that Whyte is a step up any more that it's another sidestep in middle ground fighters.
But since Bakhtov, have we really seen an increase in quality opposition? Sprott, Gavern, Lumbano-Love are all top 100 journeymen, and Johnston was an ageing fighter who'd lost to anyone who's anyone.
Why aren't we starting to see fighters with winning records such as Lucas Browne, And Ruiz, Robert Helenius or even fighters who have experience but aren't pushing 40 like Chris Arreola, and Arnold Gjergjaj.
Granted it's difficult to find the right opposition, and not exactly complaining about the opposition that AJ has come against in the early stages of his pro career. But maybe it's time to scrutinise what an actual step up in opposition looks like. Still not that convinced that Whyte is a step up any more that it's another sidestep in middle ground fighters.
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Mike Perez. His recent KO loss was him being caught clean and cold as he seemed extremely durable up until that fight. The other advantage of fighting Perez is that he is considerably worse in the second half of the fight which would give AJ a chance to do things at his own pace if it went on that long. Perez hasn't seemed the same since the Mago fight though and severely lacks ambition.
-
the_doctor
- Welterweight
- Posts: 398
- Joined: 01 Feb 2015, 09:08
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Dec - Whyte
Feb/Mar - Thompson
June/July - Jennings
Sept/Oct - Fury (assuming he loses to Wlad)
Dec - World Championship (presumably Povetkin)
Only issue is that Joshua has had regular injuries so we may not see four top-level opponents, any of the above could be removed and replaced with a "warm up" fight
Feb/Mar - Thompson
June/July - Jennings
Sept/Oct - Fury (assuming he loses to Wlad)
Dec - World Championship (presumably Povetkin)
Only issue is that Joshua has had regular injuries so we may not see four top-level opponents, any of the above could be removed and replaced with a "warm up" fight
-
reggaereggae
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 4723
- Joined: 21 Dec 2009, 17:01
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Except Edwin Valero! 8)keithmoonhangover wrote:Because every world champion ever has gone the distance at some point in their career. It's better to find out how he handles the distance before he steps in the ring with one of the two best heavyweights in the world.mimmy123 wrote:Why does AJ need distance fights? Cant he just keep knocking folk out in a round or 2?
With regards to opponents Teper is a great call. Oddly I think David Price would still be interesting
-
Boxingcutsman
- Light Heavyweight
- Posts: 783
- Joined: 30 May 2012, 21:35
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
I can't believe that no one has mentioned "LETS GO CHAMP". Shannon Briggs, now that would be more than a good test In next 6 months IMO, Briggs is very tough, durable, can punch a bit, with plenty of experience
-
danconnollyeire
- Light Heavyweight
- Posts: 3576
- Joined: 24 May 2012, 10:31
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
He needs to fight a few 6ft5+ HW's or he won't be fully prepared for Wlad. Maybe Wach plus he'd get rounds
-
MarkMcBurney
- Super Middleweight
- Posts: 1670
- Joined: 18 Nov 2012, 07:47
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Whyte, Teper, Haye, Stiverne, Wilder
-
black panther
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 4091
- Joined: 11 Dec 2003, 07:06
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
Joshua won't be put anywhere near Wlad for a while. He just beat GARY CORNISH and people are talking Wladimir Klitschko within six fights.
Give over. The lad only started boxing about five years ago, give him proper time to develop.
My take for his 2015-16:
Dec: Dillian "!You Son of a ****" Whyte
March: Lucas Browne
June: Erhan Teper
Sept: Derek Chisora
Dec: Mariuz Wach
Edit: Just noticed the Nordic Nightmare Robert Helenius is two fights into a comeback following a two year hiatus. I'd like to see that fight. He has a good chin and can wack.
My take for his 2015-16:
Dec: Dillian "!You Son of a ****" Whyte
March: Lucas Browne
June: Erhan Teper
Sept: Derek Chisora
Dec: Mariuz Wach
Edit: Just noticed the Nordic Nightmare Robert Helenius is two fights into a comeback following a two year hiatus. I'd like to see that fight. He has a good chin and can wack.
Re: YOU plan Joshua's 2015-2016 campaign
I'd like to see him in with anyone that Wlad has faced, Povetkin aside.