Just Half A Million

[koolkc107]

It is being reported by Dan Rafael that the fight did no more than 550,000 buys.

If so, that is actually higher than I predicted.

Keep in mind, Dan had Floyd's 2nd fight with Maidana doing only about 700K buys, a number that wound up being a million (or close to it).

[caldo2025]

How are PPV buys reported exactly? These estimates never seem to come from the network or governing bodies but the fighters camps. For instance, it was reported that Rhonda Roussey's last fight did over 900k buys. I find that to be complete BS. It was a horrendous card and no one I know, and most of them are die hard UFC fans, bought the fight. So I'm just wondering how these numbers are tabulated and by whom as it doesn't seem to be an exact science.

I'd be very surprised if this fight didn't do more than 800k buys.

[johnswan1]

I'm slightly surprised they did over 500k, 800k would be a bit too high. There was a big Pacman hangover and nobody gave Berto a shot. None of the websites even bothered publishing predictions for it. Groves was still selling gate tickets through his Twitter account at face value up until the day of the fight.

[IKSRTFO]

How are PPV buys reported exactly? These estimates never seem to come from the network or governing bodies but the fighters camps. For instance, it was reported that Rhonda Roussey's last fight did over 900k buys. I find that to be complete BS. It was a horrendous card and no one I know, and most of them are die hard UFC fans, bought the fight. So I'm just wondering how these numbers are tabulated and by whom as it doesn't seem to be an exact science.

I'd be very surprised if this fight didn't do more than 800k buys.

Rousey is still a rising star and likely guarantees a clean finish, top opponent or not. She's like the Tyson of UFC to casual fans. Floyd just has star power but everyone expects him to fight the same boring fight and that's why casual fans didn't buy it.

[FloydtheDuck]

Rousey?

Can you go back to the little kids table

We're talking about boxing. And mayweather


And you bring up rousey? Too opponent?

She's in a sport in its infancy , she has no competition

It's like proclaiming the 1863 Akron arrows the greatest baseball team ever assembled

[Datsue]

Well that's bound to pay for a giant sack of IV drips & the attendant therapeutic use exemption certificates, isn't it?

[Ricky_]

Well that's bound to pay for a giant sack of IV drips & the attendant therapeutic use exemption certificates, isn't it?

We all know Floyd ans Showtime inflate the numbers in what is a very strictly controlled PR environment. So in the real world we can probably take a fair guess that did about 250k. They couldn't fill the MGM and ended up giving tickets away for free.

[caldo2025]

How are PPV buys reported exactly? These estimates never seem to come from the network or governing bodies but the fighters camps. For instance, it was reported that Rhonda Roussey's last fight did over 900k buys. I find that to be complete BS. It was a horrendous card and no one I know, and most of them are die hard UFC fans, bought the fight. So I'm just wondering how these numbers are tabulated and by whom as it doesn't seem to be an exact science.

I'd be very surprised if this fight didn't do more than 800k buys.

Rousey is still a rising star and likely guarantees a clean finish, top opponent or not. She's like the Tyson of UFC to casual fans. Floyd just has star power but everyone expects him to fight the same boring fight and that's why casual fans didn't buy it.

I understand her star power but why would more people want to buy that horrible card and Rousey fight for her normal 35 seconds instead of Floyd and a strong undercard he had under him. That's scary for boxing fans i guess.

[IKSRTFO]

How are PPV buys reported exactly? These estimates never seem to come from the network or governing bodies but the fighters camps. For instance, it was reported that Rhonda Roussey's last fight did over 900k buys. I find that to be complete BS. It was a horrendous card and no one I know, and most of them are die hard UFC fans, bought the fight. So I'm just wondering how these numbers are tabulated and by whom as it doesn't seem to be an exact science.

I'd be very surprised if this fight didn't do more than 800k buys.

Rousey is still a rising star and likely guarantees a clean finish, top opponent or not. She's like the Tyson of UFC to casual fans. Floyd just has star power but everyone expects him to fight the same boring fight and that's why casual fans didn't buy it.

I understand her star power but why would more people want to buy that horrible card and Rousey fight for her normal 35 seconds instead of Floyd and a strong undercard he had under him. That's scary for boxing fans i guess.

Because who exactly outside of hardcore boxing fans know that the undercard will produce a good fight? No one knows who these guys are. Casual fans know that Rouse will produce a finish and that because how UFC is set up,(Knockout of the Night/Fight of the Night) the undercard will produce knockouts. I think if boxing had more knockouts of the night and marketed that while promoting fights, we might have more casuals tuning in.

Case in point: Buffalo Wild Wings usually showcase every UFC fight and most PPVs (Mayweather Pacquiao, Mayweather Alverez, Pacquiao Rios) at their restaurants. I was even able to see Pacquiao Algeri there. None of them in the area were showing Mayweather Berto. But I bet Rousey's next fight will be playing there.

[caldo2025]

Because who exactly outside of hardcore boxing fans know that the undercard will produce a good fight? No one knows who these guys are. Casual fans know that Rouse will produce a finish and that because how UFC is set up,(Knockout of the Night/Fight of the Night) the undercard will produce knockouts. I think if boxing had more knockouts of the night and marketed that while promoting fights, we might have more casuals tuning in.

Case in point: Buffalo Wild Wings usually showcase every UFC fight and most PPVs (Mayweather Pacquiao, Mayweather Alverez, Pacquiao Rios) at their restaurants. I was even able to see Pacquiao Algeri there. None of them in the area were showing Mayweather Berto. But I bet Rousey's next fight will be playing there.

It's funny that you allude to the knockout bringing in the fans because I was thinking about that the other day watching yet another pathetic PBC event. It was clear to me that the PBC is doing exactly that with the lopsided fights they've been showing lately. Adonis and Spence demolishing those two punks was just cruel to watch to me. Then I saw the Quillin fight and some poor fool getting strapped to a stretcher. I mean, what is the PBC trying to do? Have someone die on primetime TV. Is that the goal?

The matchmaking is an embarrassment on the PBC and if they think that knockouts in this type of fashion is good for the sport or for building up these potential stars into money makers then I think they better get back to the white board and spit ball some new ideas. Aside from a few really nice matchups this year, the collective sum of this product is garbage in my opinion and someone's going to get seriously injured soon if they don't align these matchups more competitively. I mean, who wants to watch Adonis jumping around the ring after knocking out a kid that trained in his garage with his dad and his brothers? Is it just me or is that just not entertaining?

[Ricky_]

Because who exactly outside of hardcore boxing fans know that the undercard will produce a good fight? No one knows who these guys are. Casual fans know that Rouse will produce a finish and that because how UFC is set up,(Knockout of the Night/Fight of the Night) the undercard will produce knockouts. I think if boxing had more knockouts of the night and marketed that while promoting fights, we might have more casuals tuning in.

Case in point: Buffalo Wild Wings usually showcase every UFC fight and most PPVs (Mayweather Pacquiao, Mayweather Alverez, Pacquiao Rios) at their restaurants. I was even able to see Pacquiao Algeri there. None of them in the area were showing Mayweather Berto. But I bet Rousey's next fight will be playing there.

It's funny that you allude to the knockout bringing in the fans because I was thinking about that the other day watching yet another pathetic PBC event. It was clear to me that the PBC is doing exactly that with the lopsided fights they've been showing lately. Adonis and Spence demolishing those two punks was just cruel to watch to me. Then I saw the Quillin fight and some poor fool getting strapped to a stretcher. I mean, what is the PBC trying to do? Have someone die on primetime TV. Is that the goal?

The matchmaking is an embarrassment on the PBC and if they think that knockouts in this type of fashion is good for the sport or for building up these potential stars into money makers then I think they better get back to the white board and spit ball some new ideas. Aside from a few really nice matchups this year, the collective sum of this product is garbage in my opinion and someone's going to get seriously injured soon if they don't align these matchups more competitively. I mean, who wants to watch Adonis jumping around the ring after knocking out a kid that trained in his garage with his dad and his brothers? Is it just me or is that just not entertaining?

Mismatches are never entertaining. I can't remember ever enjoying a mismatch, except for when perhaps the underdog makes a fight of it, but even that seems to be less and less, with so many fighters being so carefully managed. Take Tyson Fury for instance, he's chinny, and his team know he is, so his pathway to the title short has been expertly guided. He would have been favourite to win against fighters like Audley Harrison or David Price, but the risk factor was always there with the punching power those guys could produce, so he ended up vacating and fighting Rogan in Ireland, and the light-fisted, much shorter Chisora twice. When Ustinov was a stand-in and weigh-in looking in good shape and of equal size, Fury pulled out on the day of the fight. It's no mistake that Khan is being matched up with Devon Alexander and Chris Algieri recently. The cherry picking that goes on now is a disgrace.

I don't want to watch 1 fighter brutally spark out another who everyone knows is leagues below him, and I can't imagine why anyone would. Everyone loves a touchdown but what interest would there be in watching the Superbowl winners score with every possession if they matched up against some high school team?

A touchdown, or a knockout, is glorious to watch when 2 teams or fighters are evenly matched, when they have to find a way to get the job done by outsmarting or outhinking, or finding a physical advantage over their opponents.

We need more top level matchup's, like Cotto vs Canelo. Both guys are p4p ranked, and both have an 'end product', something Mayweather has seriously lacked in his carer at Welterweight. We know it's going to be the biggest fight of the year behind the MayPAc stinkout, if we get a KO in that fight boxing everyone will be saying boxing is thriving once more.

[caldo2025]

Mismatches are never entertaining. I can't remember ever enjoying a mismatch, except for when perhaps the underdog makes a fight of it, but even that seems to be less and less, with so many fighters being so carefully managed. Take Tyson Fury for instance, he's chinny, and his team know he is, so his pathway to the title short has been expertly guided. He would have been favourite to win against fighters like Audley Harrison or David Price, but the risk factor was always there with the punching power those guys could produce, so he ended up vacating and fighting Rogan in Ireland, and the light-fisted, much shorter Chisora twice. When Ustinov was a stand-in and weigh-in looking in good shape and of equal size, Fury pulled out on the day of the fight. It's no mistake that Khan is being matched up with Devon Alexander and Chris Algieri recently. The cherry picking that goes on now is a disgrace.

I don't want to watch 1 fighter brutally spark out another who everyone knows is leagues below him, and I can't imagine why anyone would. Everyone loves a touchdown but what interest would there be in watching the Superbowl winners score with every possession if they matched up against some high school team?

A touchdown, or a knockout, is glorious to watch when 2 teams or fighters are evenly matched, when they have to find a way to get the job done by outsmarting or outhinking, or finding a physical advantage over their opponents.

We need more top level matchup's, like Cotto vs Canelo. Both guys are p4p ranked, and both have an 'end product', something Mayweather has seriously lacked in his carer at Welterweight. We know it's going to be the biggest fight of the year behind the MayPAc stinkout, if we get a KO in that fight boxing everyone will be saying boxing is thriving once more.

Can't put any better than that but i wonder if we are in the minority. I have to think that there's a divine plan Haymon is working and these mismatches are serving some kind of purpose to justify the ends. We're coming off a weekend in which another boxer dies in the ring, I think that they really need to watch what they are doing right now. I was sick to my stomach watching Spence, Adonis and especially Qullin feast on these feeble opponents and clean their clocks. Aside from the competitive edge that must be apparent to make a fight appeasing, it's just plain dangerous at this point. It's a copy cat league this Boxing game. The fad right now is fighting inferior opponents because everyone is doing it. Just look at what Floyd did in his last fight and the excuse he used as to why he was taking an "easy" fight. "Everyone else is doing it...so why not". It seems like every boxer nowadays is saving themselves for ONE big fight in their career. Market the heck out of the guy and get him that one payday where we can all see how good he really is. Back in the day, the great fighters had a series of huge fights and sometimes rematches in those huge fights. Those days are over. It's not getting any better with Haymon pulling these putrid shows out of his ass.

I hope that Canelo/Cotto and Lemieux/GGG can inspire these young boxers to challenge themselves. As much as i can't stand Broner, there's a guy that is not afraid of taking a loss. He'll fight anyone and that's the only thing i like about him. No one took on the best like Oscar though. There's a guy that fought the best of the best.