Lil' g Ducks Ward One Mo' 'gain

[koolkc107]

No, he looks like a hypocrite to anyone who knows the definition of hypocrite:

The definition of a hypocrite is a person who pretends to have certain beliefs, attitudes or feelings when they really do not.

In this case, the belief, attitude and feeling is 2 years of telling folks you will fight anyone in 3 or 4 weight classes, only to find an excuse not to fight when challenged by someone who is a very real threat to either beat you or expose your flaws.

He wants Canelo and Cotto but wont fight Lara.
He wants Chavez Jr. or even Froch, but wont fight Ward, Groves or Dirrell.

Doesn't matter about the money (which I completely understand and don't blame him for). It is still saying one thing and doing another.

Of course money matters. Golovkin's team has been saying that he will go up or down FOR A BIG MONEY FIGHT. Unpopular Ward doesn't qualify.

Also, only an idiot can't understand that situation changes. What a person would do 5 or even 2 years ago, he wouldn't do now. Golovkin wanted Ward fight two years ago, but Ward didn't want it. Now it is vice versa. It will likely change in 18 months: Golovkin will be available, but Ward will find reasons to duck.

The situation has changed? Really? When?
Errr ummm, that aint what GGG himself was saying just a few months ago.
Only an idiot would keep ascribing attributes to someone that are directly opposite of the reality of that person.
And FYI, Ward DID want it but every time he has called GGG's bluff, they have ran away just like they did last month...again.
Here is video of Golovkin on ESPN this past July. About the 5 minute mark they ask him about Ward.
He says 50/50 money (which Ward agreed to), and 50/50 weight(which Ward did not agree to but was not the reason given by GGG for the latest duck).
He concludes by saying he wanted the fight...presumably as soon as it could be made if it was 50/50 money (since we know weight had nothing to do with the last refusal).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hVgijkIR1k

PS- clip includes pretty hilarious footage of GGG knocking the crap outta Marcellus Wiley

[ikorolev]

Don't be ridiculous. Quoting Golovkin speaking English ??? Don't you know that he often doesn't even understand questions ? The only valid source you can quote in his team is Loefler.

[koolkc107]

Don't be ridiculous. Quoting Golovkin speaking English ??? Don't you know that he often doesn't even understand questions ? The only valid source you can quote in his team is Loefler.

So now we can't accept a fighters own words on what he wants?

LMAO!!!!!!

And no, it looked like he understood the questions just fine.

[ikorolev]

Don't be ridiculous. Quoting Golovkin speaking English ??? Don't you know that he often doesn't even understand questions ? The only valid source you can quote in his team is Loefler.

So now we can't accept a fighters own words on what he wants?

LMAO!!!!!!

And no, it looked like he understood the questions just fine.

Own words in a language he doesn't understand well ? Of course, they can't be fully accepted. I've heard a lot of his interviews, and he clearly doesn't understand A LOT and can't express what he wants to say A LOT.

[koolkc107]

Don't be ridiculous. Quoting Golovkin speaking English ??? Don't you know that he often doesn't even understand questions ? The only valid source you can quote in his team is Loefler.

So now we can't accept a fighters own words on what he wants?

LMAO!!!!!!

And no, it looked like he understood the questions just fine.

Own words in a language he doesn't understand well ? Of course, they can't be fully accepted. I've heard a lot of his interviews, and he clearly doesn't understand A LOT and can't express what he wants to say A LOT.

Lil' g said 50/50 in clear enough english.
But, when he got it he and his peeps said 2017.
Ward pointed out in an interview with the same folks about a week or so after that this is what GGG does.
In 2013, they said he'd be ready the next year, last year they said they could see a fight in 2015, just last month they say 2017.

See a pattern?

[ikorolev]

Own words in a language he doesn't understand well ? Of course, they can't be fully accepted. I've heard a lot of his interviews, and he clearly doesn't understand A LOT and can't express what he wants to say A LOT.

Lil' g said 50/50 in clear enough english.
But, when he got it he and his peeps said 2017.
Ward pointed out in an interview with the same folks about a week or so after that this is what GGG does.
In 2013, they said he'd be ready the next year, last year they said they could see a fight in 2015, just last month they say 2017.

See a pattern?

Didn't he say that they want 50-50 in weight too.

Regrading the pattern, the one I see is GGG steadily becomes more popular and Ward steadily slides into obscurity. If Ward wants better conditions and sooner dates, he needs to revive himself.

[koolkc107]

Own words in a language he doesn't understand well ? Of course, they can't be fully accepted. I've heard a lot of his interviews, and he clearly doesn't understand A LOT and can't express what he wants to say A LOT.

Lil' g said 50/50 in clear enough english.
But, when he got it he and his peeps said 2017.
Ward pointed out in an interview with the same folks about a week or so after that this is what GGG does.
In 2013, they said he'd be ready the next year, last year they said they could see a fight in 2015, just last month they say 2017.

See a pattern?

Didn't he say that they want 50-50 in weight too.

Regrading the pattern, the one I see is GGG steadily becomes more popular and Ward steadily slides into obscurity. If Ward wants better conditions and sooner dates, he needs to revive himself.

Yeah, he did say 50/50 on the weight. I said as much upthread.

But, we know weight is not the reason for this last duck since Lil' g and his peeps say the fight in 2017 will be at 168 AND they have talked about fights at 168 with others like Chavez Jr and Froch.

You are also right about the popularity and Ward's promotional problems making him less visible.

Not disputing that at all.

But, the one thing that wont shake loose is Lil' g asking for the fight over and over again, (even as recently as July), then turning it down for whatever reason, also over and over again.

That's called ducking.

[MachoTime]

See a pattern?

Didn't he say that they want 50-50 in weight too.

Regrading the pattern, the one I see is GGG steadily becomes more popular and Ward steadily slides into obscurity. If Ward wants better conditions and sooner dates, he needs to revive himself.

Yeah, he did say 50/50 on the weight. I said as much upthread.

But, we know weight is not the reason for this last duck since Lil' g and his peeps say the fight in 2017 will be at 168 AND they have talked about fights at 168 with others like Chavez Jr and Froch.

You are also right about the popularity and Ward's promotional problems making him less visible.

Not disputing that at all.

But, the one thing that wont shake loose is Lil' g asking for the fight over and over again, (even as recently as July), then turning it down for whatever reason, also over and over again.

That's called ducking.

[Tanzio]

SOGgy thinks he commands the audience and capital 3G does?