questions that need to be answered

[Pureist]

questions that need to be answered, floyd on video said his urine was brown and that was the reason for the IV, USADA in its rebuttal said floyd couldnt give a sample so who is lieing, if floyd knew his urine was brown then he must have been able to give a sample,he didnt mention anything about not being able to deliver a sample, that would have been a better explaination than his p was brown, each statement doesnt back up the other, USADA stated they called a paramedic to floyds house to give the IV, why wasnt floyd sent to the hospital, USADA have no rights in breaking WADA rules that they adhere too, Usada and NSAC were obviously both present on the night of the fight due to pacquaio asking for the injection and being turned down, why wasnt the information from the previous night passed on to the NSAC and pacquaios team there and then by USADA, that would have been the professional way to handle the situation, why didnt USADA get floyd to drink water and then wait at his house, were they in some kind of rush, they were paid very handsomely to conduct testing, i wouldnt think waiting for an hour or two would be too much to ask. why did USADA add vitamins to the IV if they were only requiring a sample, vitamins will make no difference, why did USADA break WADA rules by giving floyd 14 times the legal amount for the sole purpose of collecting a sample when drinking water would lead to exactly the same result but would take a little longer, if USADA ordered the IV why did floyd have to apply for the TUE and why was it so long after the fight, it was supposed to be under their supervision, none of this adds up and without the article written, would we have ever known about it, seeing USADA have not been upfront about this situation from the very beginning how do we actually know if he tested clean or not, USADA seem to have absolutely no problem with tampering with facts like they have in the past, why would i believe them, they have no problem with breaking WADA rules, the USADA organization have acted extremely unprofessional in this and other cases

[Pureist]

By the way, USADA requires only 90ml of urine for a sample, floyd seems very dirty

[asdfjkl]

Fact he's fighting while he's stil ill already proves enough for me.

If I'm pissing brown I'm certainly not accepting a high level boxing match.
I would go to a hospital straigh away, fact he doesn't, shows me he expected this to happen, like he was planning to.

If you're planning to do things like this to your body, knowing you have a fight ahead, you aren't a professional sporter, you're a cheater and you know it.

Since this news is released he also said he stops fighting, why? He was making 100M+ each fight?! Probably because he knew he would get cought soon with his cheating. I'm shocked there are actually people supporting him and feel proud of their country because of him.

For me he's just a cheating dwarf, guys like him are an example why I'm pretty much only interested in the best boxer in the world, Klitschko at this moment and perhaps Anthony Joshua soon. Both of them would KO this cheater within a minit, no matter how much he cheats.

[DA GOOSE]

Fact he's fighting while he's stil ill already proves enough for me.

If I'm pissing brown I'm certainly not accepting a high level boxing match.
I would go to a hospital straigh away, fact he doesn't, shows me he expected this to happen, like he was planning to.

If you're planning to do things like this to your body, knowing you have a fight ahead, you aren't a professional sporter, you're a cheater and you know it.

Since this news is released he also said he stops fighting, why? He was making 100M+ each fight?! Probably because he knew he would get cought soon with his cheating. I'm shocked there are actually people supporting him and feel proud of their country because of him.

For me he's just a cheating dwarf, guys like him are an example why I'm pretty much only interested in the best boxer in the world, Klitschko at this moment and perhaps Anthony Joshua soon. Both of them would KO this cheater within a minit, no matter how much he cheats.

Of course they would KO him he's a WW they're HW's.

[Ricky_]

How extensive is the Floyd-USADA coverup.

Arum stated that in previous talks, 1 if the reasons for a contract being rejected was that Floyd included a TUE clause. The clause was that a fighter could be granted a TUE confidentially (neither NSAC or the other camp would be told). No way would we agree to this said Arum.

That's Arum though.

Mosley was the first fight i believe Floyd used USADA (funnily enough right after his failed weight cut attempts vs JMM).

Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Maidana x2 & Berto are the other opponents to fight Floyd and sign his contract.

How many of them, having won the Floyd payday everyone is after.... are going to jeapordise the fight by rejecting the terms of how TUEs are administered?? Probably none.

My hunch is Floyd's had a "secret TUE" clause in all these fights and only Pac/Arum had the star power to negotiate it out.

So that's why we even know about this stink.

It's been rumoured for years that Floyd has failed A samples relating to steriod injections for his brittle hands but the Bs never tested because he was issued a TUE. Those rumours could be accurate, especially if the TUE is confidential and kept only between Floyd and USADA.

Both Floyd & USADA are manupulating contracts in a way that allows Floyd to break thr WADA Banned Substance & Methods without the other guy knowing about it before he enters the ring. It's an absolute scandal and someone needs to go to jail for this.

[handsofstone]

Fact he's fighting while he's stil ill already proves enough for me.

If I'm pissing brown I'm certainly not accepting a high level boxing match.
I would go to a hospital straigh away, fact he doesn't, shows me he expected this to happen, like he was planning to.

If you're planning to do things like this to your body, knowing you have a fight ahead, you aren't a professional sporter, you're a cheater and you know it.

Since this news is released he also said he stops fighting, why? He was making 100M+ each fight?! Probably because he knew he would get cought soon with his cheating. I'm shocked there are actually people supporting him and feel proud of their country because of him.

For me he's just a cheating dwarf, guys like him are an example why I'm pretty much only interested in the best boxer in the world, Klitschko at this moment and perhaps Anthony Joshua soon. Both of them would KO this cheater within a minit, no matter how much he cheats.

Of course they would KO him he's a WW they're HW's.

[asdfjkl]

Of course they would KO him he's a WW they're HW's.

Two girls, two elderly, two cripples or two children fighting should indeed be just as important, somehow this cheater makes more money as all of them combined with his cheating shit.

I honoustly don't understand why people are interested in this midget, especially if you know there are millions of people that could easely handle him, simply because of the fact he isn't a HW. You simply can't say that with Klitschko or Joshua.

[Pureist]

1.1.3. Retroactive TUEs
There are situations for which TUEs may be granted retroactively. Nevertheless, even if a potential retroactive TUE case is examined, under no circumstances does this provide any guarantee that the TUE will be granted. The evaluation procedure is the same as that for the standard TUE application. The application will be studied by the relevant TUEC, which will issue its decision.
In accordance with Article 4.3 of the International Standard for TUEs, the following two situations may result in a retroactive TUE:
© WADA World Anti-Doping Programme TUE Guidelines
Version 6.0 January 2012
- 13 -1. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition.
2. If, due to exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for an applicant to submit, or a TUEC to consider, an application prior to doping control.
By way of explanation in relation to the aforementioned points:
 An emergency situation occurs when the life of an Athlete could be at risk if he/she is unable to Use the Prohibited Substance or Method; in other words, if the medical condition justifies the treatment and warrants immediate administration.
 Circumstances are considered to be exceptional when, for example, a TUE cannot be granted in time through no fault of the Athlete. Thus, an Athlete with a chronic illness must request a TUE 30 days prior to an event. Nevertheless, the case of a normally healthy Athlete suddenly affected by a significant medical condition some days prior to an event, and unable to request a TUE within the allotted time to enable the TUEC to grant the TUE, may be considered as an “exceptional circumstance”.
 Medical emergencies or acute medical situations requiring administration of an otherwise Prohibited Substance before an application for a TUE can be made are uncommon. Similarly, circumstances requiring expedited consideration of an application for a TUE due to imminent competition are infrequent. Anti-Doping Organisations granting TUEs should have internal procedures that permit such situations to be addressed.
1.2. Documentation/information
1.2.1. What is sufficient?
A TUE application is deemed sufficient if it enables the ADO to issue a decision based on the fulfilment of the criteria set forth in the International Standard for TUEs.
As mentioned in the TUE application form, and in accordance with the International Standard for TUEs, the following documents must be attached to the completed application form in support of the application for a TUE:Copies of the original reports or letters.
The application must include a comprehensive medical history and the results of all examinations, laboratory investigations and imaging studies relevant to the application. The arguments related to the diagnosis and treatment, as well as duration of validity, should follow the WADA “Medical Information to Support the Decisions of TUECs.” NB: Any additional relevant investigations, examinations or imaging studies requested by the TUEC of the Anti- Doping Organisation before approval will be undertaken at the expense of the applicant or his/her national sport governing body (Article 6.2 of the International Standard for TUEs).
 The application must include a statement by an appropriately qualified physician attesting to the necessity of the otherwise Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method in the treatment of the Athlete and describing why an alternative, permitted medication cannot, or could not, be used in the treatment of this condition (Article 4.1 c. of the International Standard for TUEs).
NB: the evidence must be as objective as possible, given the clinical circumstances.
 For conditions that cannot be demonstrated, independent medical justification must be attached to the application.
The information provided must be up to date and exact, in terms of both content and form.
1.2.2. Who decides what is sufficient?
The ADO responsible for the decision (see Section 2.2) and, more specifically, its TUEC, decides what is sufficient. The TUEC has the right to request further information at any time if it deems such information necessary in order to issue its decision.
WADA can request further information from the body granting the TUE in the context of its review activity, if the evidence in support of the diagnosis is insufficient. The initial decision continues to apply during the examination of such cases by WADA (see Section 3.3.1).

[Ricky_]

Here's the video of Floyd on the matter:


http://youtu.be/SEWLygMvxxo


It's alarming how laid back Floyd and Ellerbe are. As if "hey my urine was dark so I needed an exemption from the drug testing rules".

It's no big deal to them. While the other guy is sticking to the WADA code, Floyd just breaks them at will and the testing body in his payroll throw some exemptions his way.

[Pureist]

Not over yet, WADA has the authority to review any TUE granted, the drug body USASA is a joke

[Badhusker]

Of course they would KO him he's a WW they're HW's.

Two girls, two elderly, two cripples or two children fighting should indeed be just as important, somehow this cheater makes more money as all of them combined with his cheating poo.

I honoustly don't understand why people are interested in this midget, especially if you know there are millions of people that could easely handle him, simply because of the fact he isn't a HW. You simply can't say that with Klitschko or Joshua.

Wow, that is some funny stuff right there...

[Pureist]

im noticing none of the floyd fanclub has given any answers to the questions raised, is that because all of you realize that USADA have been compremised by trying to cover floyds arse, one lie leads to two and before you know it theyre tripping over their own words

[palooka]

Of course they would KO him he's a WW they're HW's.

Two girls, two elderly, two cripples or two children fighting should indeed be just as important, somehow this cheater makes more money as all of them combined with his cheating poo.

I honoustly don't understand why people are interested in this midget, especially if you know there are millions of people that could easely handle him, simply because of the fact he isn't a HW. You simply can't say that with Klitschko or Joshua.

Wow, that is some funny stuff right there...

you know I thought the same. Has asdfjkl posted many sane posts before?

[caldo2025]

It's really up to the Boxing media to give this story more legs and not let it die. It just takes one investigative reporter to take this on and make it their life's work to find the answers. I HAVE to think that there's a bunch of them digging into this issue right now trying to make a name for themselves. Floyd's a great boxer but lets's face it, the guy can't read and write. Ellerby is a glorified fanboy who I sincerely doubt sat through a day in a college classroom. Could they have possibly NOT left a trail of guilt? With all of the Mayweather posse and batches of girls that circulated in and out of the group, there must be someone that has seen something. Now that their ATM is now out of order, do you think they won't do an exclusive for some Taco Bell? Please.

Bob Arum, that goof, is not helping matters much by trying to sweep it under the rug. Bob Arum should be backing his fighter in this matter. His fighter was treated unjustly and all he wants to do is make nice with Haymon and Floyd because of what it would cost in future earnings. Manny should drop his ass like a bad habit and finally get out from under that pathetic heathen.

[Bobbyptsd]

Why cat no eat fruit?