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Greatest Puerto Rican Fighter: COTTO

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Don't talk to me about no Wilfredo Benetez or Tito Trinidad. Cotto has had the longest career AT THE TOP. Cotto was making waves back in

2006' as one of the best fighters in world now it's soon to be 2016 and he's still there at the ELITE level. The #3 attraction in the sport behind

Floyd and Manny. He's the richest fighter from Puerto Rico as well owning his own promotional company promoting young talent from the island,

owns various real estate, owns a dozen gas stations, etc.. He is the most successful fighter and the smartest with investing his money. I don't

care about who would win a war between Tito or Miguel I am speaking of terms of achievement BOTH in and out of the ring. When Tito lost to

Hopkins he was never the same and retired. Cotto? Look at what he's been through and look now he's about to headline a huge PPV blockbuster

event on a mainstream scale. I am sorry Cotto has outdid Tito Trinidad!
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Cotto beat just one Hall of Famer, an aged Mosley in a close fight which saw the prime Cotto backpeddling his way through the final round. Trinidad would have punched holes through Cotto at Welterweight and Light Middle, as would De La Hoya. This pair at their best were IMHO better Welters than the two guys who beat Cotto at Welter and better Light Middles than the two guys who beat Cotto at Light Middle.
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Are you asking who is the richest PR fighter or the greatest? If it's the former then you already know the answer to that one but if it's the latter, then you are dead wrong.

Cotto, the most overrated boxer in my eras of watching boxing, lost every big fight he's been in aside from the one with a 40 year old man with bad knees. Cotto's other titles were vacated belts that he picked up by beating junk.

Trinidad is by far the greatest PR fighter in history. Here's a guy that handed Oscar his first loss. He defeated one of the top P4P fighters of all time, Pernell Whittaker. He handed top boxer at the time, Fernando Vargas, his first loss. He beat Winky Wright as well. In his career, he defeated 3 boxers that won gold medals in the Olympics.

The body of work between the two is not even remotely close. Felix Trinidad is the greatest PR boxer in history. Now if Cotto beats Alvarez and then has the nuggets to take on GGG and defeats him? Then we might have a different conversation because the end of a boxer's career is just as important as beginning and the middle. It's not too late for Cotto to make this a little closer but right now, it's all Trinidad.
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I like Cotto but he's lost most of his big fights, TiTo only lost to Hopkins and that was at middleweight and he was never a middleweight.
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caldo2025 wrote:Are you asking who is the richest PR fighter or the greatest? If it's the former then you already know the answer to that one but if it's the latter, then you are dead wrong.

Cotto, the most overrated boxer in my eras of watching boxing, lost every big fight he's been in aside from the one with a 40 year old man with bad knees. Cotto's other titles were vacated belts that he picked up by beating junk.

Trinidad is by far the greatest PR fighter in history. Here's a guy that handed Oscar his first loss. He defeated one of the top P4P fighters of all time, Pernell Whittaker. He handed top boxer at the time, Fernando Vargas, his first loss. He beat Winky Wright as well. In his career, he defeated 3 boxers that won gold medals in the Olympics.

The body of work between the two is not even remotely close. Felix Trinidad is the greatest PR boxer in history. Now if Cotto beats Alvarez and then has the nuggets to take on GGG and defeats him? Then we might have a different conversation because the end of a boxer's career is just as important as beginning and the middle. It's not too late for Cotto to make this a little closer but right now, it's all Trinidad.
He was dominated by Winky what the hell are you talking about? He was embarrassed by De La Hoya everyone alive knows that.. Your hate for Cotto is relentlessly sad... I like both guys, but Trinidad was a killer I'd favor him head to head and legacy wise, either way the shit that people write on here is a joke sometimes.
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I'm a Cotto fan but he hasn't beaten a top (& I mean TOP opponent) since Mosley. Martinez (another fighter I love) had a lot of physical wear & tear & had (in my humble opinion) lost to an average, but tough, fighter in Murray.

If he beats Canelo then he is in with a shot of Best Puerto Rican fighter. I have him down to lose based on recent form but this is boxing and who knows.

I'd have Carlos Ortiz, Wilfredo Gomez & Felix Trinidad above him right now.

Benitez at his best was better than Cotto at his best. But he was done by 25.

As for who has the most money, I really don't care.

But Long Live The Puerto Rican boxer & the fantastic people from that island. Love the place. Was there many many times when I worked around the Caribbean.
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My favorite Puerto Rican Boxer to watch was Edwin "El Chapo" Rosario. Win lose or draw was a exciting fighter. Probably the hardest punching Puerto Rican fighter of all time.
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MachoTime wrote:My favorite Puerto Rican Boxer to watch was Edwin "El Chapo" Rosario. Win lose or draw was a exciting fighter. Probably the hardest punching Puerto Rican fighter of all time.
I'd say Gomez was a bigger puncher but it's all about opinion.
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Taansend wrote:
MachoTime wrote:My favorite Puerto Rican Boxer to watch was Edwin "El Chapo" Rosario. Win lose or draw was a exciting fighter. Probably the hardest punching Puerto Rican fighter of all time.
I'd say Gomez was a bigger puncher but it's all about opinion.
Gomez gets my vote as well. Perhaps Ortiz second.
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SFW wrote:
........................................ He was embarrassed by De La Hoya everyone alive knows that.. Your hate for Cotto is relentlessly sad... I like both guys, but Trinidad was a killer I'd favor him head to head and legacy wise, either way the poo that people write on here is a joke sometimes.
Rubbish ........................ Watch the Tito v Oscar fight with the volume on mute, and you'll see that Tito clearly wins the fight ..................... It's only the American commentary that gives the impression that it's even close.
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nickcat0 wrote:
SFW wrote:
........................................ He was embarrassed by De La Hoya everyone alive knows that.. Your hate for Cotto is relentlessly sad... I like both guys, but Trinidad was a killer I'd favor him head to head and legacy wise, either way the poo that people write on here is a joke sometimes.
Rubbish ........................ Watch the Tito v Oscar fight with the volume on mute, and you'll see that Tito clearly wins the fight ..................... It's only the American commentary that gives the impression that it's even close.
That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read. That is not even remotely close to what actually happened, and I bet the overwhelming majority would state the exact opposite of your "view".
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SFW wrote: That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read. That is not even remotely close to what actually happened, and I bet the overwhelming majority would state the exact opposite of your "view".
The opinion of the overwhelming majority doesn't concern me, it is rarely correct. Usually it just proves that all the idiots are in agreement.
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The underrated but great, Carlos Ortiz, would have boxed circles around Cotto.

As has been stated, Cotto has lost most of his major bouts, except for the close nod over an aging Mosely. He'll stick to his track record and lose his next major contest.

Ortiz beat a slew of outstanding champions, including Sugar Ramos, Ismael Laguna, Joe Brown, Flash Elorde and a draw (in Argentina) with Nicolino Locche. Cotto would have been connecting with nothing but air in a showdown with Ortiz.

Cotto could only hope to duplicate the accomplishments of probably the best Puerto Rican fighter ever, Carlos Ortiz.

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When fighter's like Mayweather brings up how much they''v made how they make the most money how they are the cash cow :lol: so when did how much money you have made define how good a fighter you are because if either Sugar Ray was in his prime today they would make more money then any one out there same for Ali/Frazier/Foreman/Marciano Floyd AND Pac payday would be chicken feed so how many gas station's fu..
Robinson would own the Gas Company Cotto can have the station's :lol: Trinidad would have knocked Cotto into tomorrow :lol:
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MachoTime wrote:My favorite Puerto Rican Boxer to watch was Edwin "El Chapo" Rosario. Win lose or draw was a exciting fighter. Probably the hardest punching Puerto Rican fighter of all time.
Yup Rosario could crack.

A beautiful fighter to watch and one of my personal favorites.
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That's all fine and well on paper, but I have family in Puerto Rico, and I can tell you Cotto is not the most beloved by the people. Trinidad will and always be. So, depends what you mean by 'great'.
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Prime for Prime i'd fancy Benitez to beat both Cotto and Trinidad .

Over the body of a whole career Tito takes it.
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nickcat0 wrote:
SFW wrote: That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read. That is not even remotely close to what actually happened, and I bet the overwhelming majority would state the exact opposite of your "view".
The opinion of the overwhelming majority doesn't concern me, it is rarely correct. Usually it just proves that all the idiots are in agreement.
Lol actually, if most people watch a fight and think one guy won there is probably a reason for that. No idea what self righteous point your trying to make but idiots are usually the people who think they know everything when all the evidence indicates otherwise. Cheers
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SFW wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Are you asking who is the richest PR fighter or the greatest? If it's the former then you already know the answer to that one but if it's the latter, then you are dead wrong.

Cotto, the most overrated boxer in my eras of watching boxing, lost every big fight he's been in aside from the one with a 40 year old man with bad knees. Cotto's other titles were vacated belts that he picked up by beating junk.

Trinidad is by far the greatest PR fighter in history. Here's a guy that handed Oscar his first loss. He defeated one of the top P4P fighters of all time, Pernell Whittaker. He handed top boxer at the time, Fernando Vargas, his first loss. He beat Winky Wright as well. In his career, he defeated 3 boxers that won gold medals in the Olympics.

The body of work between the two is not even remotely close. Felix Trinidad is the greatest PR boxer in history. Now if Cotto beats Alvarez and then has the nuggets to take on GGG and defeats him? Then we might have a different conversation because the end of a boxer's career is just as important as beginning and the middle. It's not too late for Cotto to make this a little closer but right now, it's all Trinidad.
He was dominated by Winky what the hell are you talking about? the poo that people write on here is a joke sometimes.
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