Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas

[diddy]

I don't think Pulev would beat Povetkin.

Povetkin seems to have improved recently.

Pulev I need to see more of him against a real opponent. A Bryant Jennings or Fury type, if not Povetkin or Wilder or Joshua.

For me Joshua is the #2 heavyweight. His potential is massive.

[Chepppaaa]

exactly, it just shows how many people on hear have no clue about boxing.

a small chubby dude, who struggled with a cruiserweight huck is now all of the sudden the second best heavyweight in the world, better than big tall athletic powerful punchers like wilder or jushua, no way. povetkin is on a stiverne level, b+

You seriously have no clue about boxing.

how is the weather in florida...god, i had a good time down their, some time ago

[forcefraser]

Wilder finished him with a nice combo though. Sure, he`s no Joe Louis, but he can punch.

Love to see him fight Fury or Joshua.

[Nightgaunt]

A lot of the debate about Wilder boils down to the lack of a true heavyweight champion hailing from the USA in a long time imo. This has been going on for a while, the last dominating American Heavyweight when it comes to length of reign was Larry Holmes, people forget that while Tyson was a very active champ with many defenses the time he actually held on to his belts was rather short. All the other belt holders parallel to the Klitschkos were either paper champs that held and lost titles quickly, dodged real contenders or eventually lost against Wladimir. Even if there were intermissions like Vitalis retirement due to injuries he eventually came back and his brother still held the titles in the meantime. It's a brutally long time the division has been hogged by those two.
I was very very cautious about jumping on the Wilder bandwagon and I still am. Yes, he is good, I give you that but he is also very protected at this point. A knockout quota alone doesn't mean anything if the opponents are crap, the butterbean was a prime example. Duhaupas was an okay fighter and very game, but there will be better fighters stepping up eventually. Look at Wladimirs resume during his first reign as WBO champ, Jefferson, Shufford, past prime Botha and Mercer. I doubt that those were the highest ranked contenders either at the time. It took him a second reign and being recognized as the best heavyweight to fight the highest ranked and highly regarded contenders.
People are getting sick of even hearing the name Klitschko, and even I who followed the Klitschkos early fights religiously on German TV don't even watch them live most of the time these days. Vitali is retired, Wladimir despite his claims that he wants to stay champion for a long time really looked like he's on his way out in his last fight. Which means that every fighter who is a top contender and will be in prime for a few years to come has a good chance of grabbing one of the major titles eventually. So I don't blame anyone for putting a lot of hope into Wilder right now to become something like the undisputed champ after Wladimir.
Excuse me dragging the Klitschkos into this all the time, but fact is, they have been the benchmark in heavyweight boxing in a long time and even as a fan of them from the start it's time this era comes to an end. I want to see good, competitive fights again and yes, people like Povetkin who come to brawl are on top of the list.
We had "clinical" boxers reign as champs with Lennox Lewis and Wladimir, even if Wilder turns out not to be an as dominant force in the scene he at least delivers some good solid knockouts.

[Mr Icaman]

Wilder finished him with a nice combo though. Sure, he`s no Joe Louis, but he can punch.

Love to see him fight Fury or Joshua.

If his power was as good as the hype train make out he should have got the ko. Wilder gave him everything and it took 10 rounds to get a tko. This guy wasn't a top 30 heavyweight.

Just imagine some one there who had a strong punch Wilder would have been out...

Wlad would have made him look silly, even Fury would have stopped him.

[Ilya Muromets]

Wilder has a very good punch but that's about it. He's very vulnerable as you can see by looking at his face after last night's fight with the guy who is ranked #34. Duhaupas is pretty good. He has an iron jaw and tremendous fighting spirit. His biggest failing is he doesn't have a knockout punch. If he did he could have KO'd Wilder. I wouldn't even put Wilder in the top ten. Wait til he fights someone in the top ten - or top 33 - first. I had to turn off the sound last night because the talking head BS artists on the tv were laying it on so thick..."a truly great american champion...he has the charisma...bla bla bla".

[Counter-puncher]

I am no big fan of Joshua, in fact something about him makes me want him to fail just a little

But still, I am pretty sure if you stick him in a ring with wilder right now you would see a palpable fear in Wilder.

[tiny_acres]

What I find so funny.Is numerous people on this forum had previously stated
That Duhaupas would be a tough challenge for Wilder.
But Wilder defeated him with ease and some exciting moments.
Yet he still gets bashed.
No Wilder does not look like an all time great.But he is fun to watch and
quite obviously a top 5 heavyweight.
Just enjoy him for what he is.

[Ilya Muromets]

What I find so funny.Is numerous people on this forum had previously stated
That Duhaupas would be a tough challenge for Wilder.
But Wilder defeated him with ease ....

No he didn't.

[Tony1244]

The limitations of Wilder are now becoming more clear. Either his punching power has been overestimated or his opponent has a granite chin. Maybe a bit of both.

Where I'd give a Wilder an A+ is 1) Excitement 2) and Conditioning.

His defense leaves something to be desired, but both Fury and Wilder have given the HW division a needed shot in the arm with exciting fights and smack talk.

[MachoTime]

The limitations of Wilder are now becoming more clear. Either his punching power has been overestimated or his opponent has a granite chin. Maybe a bit of both.

Where I'd give a Wilder an A+ is 1) Excitement 2) and Conditioning.

His defense leaves something to be desired, but both Fury and Wilder have given the HW division a needed shot in the arm with exciting fights and smack talk.

When the comp gets stepped up there will some fighters who can take Wilder's punch and last a little while longer.

[Tony1244]

What I find so funny.Is numerous people on this forum had previously stated
That Duhaupas would be a tough challenge for Wilder.
But Wilder defeated him with ease ....

No he didn't.

As the philosopher said, "You're both right." Wilder defeated him with ease on a scorecard, but Wilder had a very tough time doing it.

[Datsue]

I am no big fan of Joshua, in fact something about him makes me want him to fail just a little

You as well?

[zojo]

Wilder has now defended the title twice in three months.

The guy is at least active for a champ.

[Freedom2013]

Wilder has now defended the title twice in three months.

The guy is at least active for a champ.

But he's choosing journeyman opponents.

It's time he fought his mandatory Povetkin, or at least a legit heavyweight contender like Takam or Jennings.

[asdfjkl]

I'd have to say, Wilder impressed me, he showed me his chin (/face) wasn't made of glass and he showed me he can fight for 12 rounds against someone who actually fights back. Ofcourse Duhaupas was only rank 34 of the world, but still, even Duhaupas impressed me with his chin, he disappointed me with his style, I expected him to score points, or at least try to, but he didn't.

Even though the match wasn't as one way traffic as the scorecards are suggesting, I really have to admit Wilder was clearly the best of the two.
I prefered to see a real KO above this, but I can't say Duhaupas had much of a chance.
Before the match I really thought Duhaupas had like a 30% chance, but this was clearly estimated wrong.
I'm happy I still predicted the other match between Marcin Rekowsko and Nagy Aguilera correct, against all odds.

I've seen the fight here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw9uj8QSocs

I still see Klitschko, as well as Povetkin as a different league, but I also expect Wilder to fight Povetkin (his Mandatory) next, so we'll see soon.

[dempseyfire]

Wilder is going to get stopped by Povetkin but still not convinced that fight is happening.
A Wlad fight would a total massacre.

Duhaupas at times was actually outjabbing Wilder. If he had any power ( or actually turned over his right hand . . his punching technique outside of the jab was pretty atrocious; he got no leverage at all) Wilder would've been knocked out.

Wilder is one of the technically most amateur titleholders I've ever seen. He's all over the place. Some of his uppercuts thrown from far out . . .man, vs a better opponent he'd pay dearly for that nonsense.

[punchoutsb]

Duhaupas impressed me with his chin, he disappointed me with his style, I expected him to score points, or at least try to, but he didn't.

Duhaupas is a light hitting counter puncher, which is why he was selected. He fought the same fight he always does. I followed him for years now, and he's always been just outside of European level.

So at least now we know Wilder could have a shot at winning the European title. Not much else we've learned in 35 fights.

[ldlamb]

What I find so funny.Is numerous people on this forum had previously stated
That Duhaupas would be a tough challenge for Wilder.
But Wilder defeated him with ease ....

No he didn't.

He won pretty much every round.

[Freedom2013]

Wilder will be found out if he ever fights a bona fide good HW like Joshua, Klitschko or Povetkin.

In the meantime, the scam will continue, just like in the movie The Harder They Fall.

[Cap]

I think Duhaupas landed 98 of 125 punches over 11 rounds. In other words he was pretty much a heavy bag for most of the time he was in there. Give him credit for guts. He made Wilder look mediocre at times. No one expected him to last past the 3rd or 4th round because of Wilder's "impressive power". Not overly impressed with Wilder's power. He needs work. He's finally fighting guys that don't quit when he pops them once. If he survives Povetkin he may challenge for the world title in another year or two.

[crusader]

What I find so funny.Is numerous people on this forum had previously stated
That Duhaupas would be a tough challenge for Wilder.
But Wilder defeated him with ease and some exciting moments.
Yet he still gets bashed.
No Wilder does not look like an all time great.But he is fun to watch and
quite obviously a top 5 heavyweight.
Just enjoy him for what he is.

Are the people who claimed that Duhaupas would be a tough challenge 'bashing' Wilder?

I can't see why people familiar with Duhaupas would've considered him a threat anyway. He'd fought three non-scrubs prior to meeting Wilder, never hurt any of them, and in general showed very little that suggested he'd have the offensive tools to beat him. He's a solid test for prospects and can mix it okay at EBU-level (though he's lost twice in three tries), but I don't think he's any better than he was when he unanimously lost to Francisco Pianeta, who was labeled as a can when taken apart by Wlad. People can dress Duhaupas up all they want, but in reality he's a durable fringe-contender with little power who has lost to three of the four notable opponents he's faced, with the one he beat (by MD) getting KTFO'd by a cruiser immediately after.

Deontay obviously has some ability and is my view a top five heavy who seems like a threat to everyone in the division, which is why I'm frustrated that he's been so consistently matched against weak opponents (just one in the top ten and two others in the top thirty IMO). I'm hoping that he fights Povetkin next as the latter would be his best opponent to date and unlike Stiverne is someone I see as being one of the elite few of the division; if Wilder gets the better of him I think a lot of doubt will be removed and perhaps his handlers will stop searching out such weak opposition.

[davie]

I am no big fan of Joshua, in fact something about him makes me want him to fail just a little

You as well?

I'm a big Joshua fan and want him to succeed and indeed dominate the division (although I have questioned whether he will do that until I see him fight quality opposition)

I may be wrong, but I guess your desire to see him fail, is less to do with the man and more to do with the dribbling halfwits on here, who have been all aboard the Hearn hype train since his first pro win.

Similar to what riles me about some guys talking about Wilder when he was coming up through the ranks.

These guys KO a few lower level opponents and all of a sudden they're the next Lennox Lewis

[Horse]

If his power was as good as the hype train make out he should have got the ko. Wilder gave him everything and it took 10 rounds to get a tko. This guy wasn't a top 30 heavyweight.

Duhaupas is a top 30 heavyweight.

[Cutman Scabbers]

Wilder is going to get stopped by Povetkin but still not convinced that fight is happening.
A Wlad fight would a total massacre.

Duhaupas at times was actually outjabbing Wilder. If he had any power ( or actually turned over his right hand . . his punching technique outside of the jab was pretty atrocious; he got no leverage at all) Wilder would've been knocked out.

That's right! Did you notice they basically had the same reach?
If Duhaupas had kept jabbing and double jabbing his way in, he could have won the fight.