Wilder vs Povetkin is next according to Sulaiman

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Re: Wilder vs Povetkin is next according to Sulaiman

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x2x wrote:He shouldn't be getting a fight with the #2 ranked heavy after fighting the guys he's been fighting, and struggling with. I'd rather see him fight the guy that Povetkin just KO'd in round one, Perez. Perez would be a HUGE step up for him and I'd put my money on Perez to beat him handily.
He's a world title belt holder not a 6 fight novice. If he wants to keep his belt he should be fighting the no. 2 ranked heavy
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tiny_acres wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:Wilder- Povetkin would be one of the fights of 2016.

In my opinion it's a 50/50 fight at the moment.

I agree. Wilder-Povetkin is a pickem fight. With Wlad aging and Parker and Joshua coming up, I think Parker and Joshua may go further than Wilder.

Everyone complains about how bad the present era is. But with Wilder, Parker, Joshua, and the Furys I think it's damn near exciting. :bag:
I think we are going to be coming into a good new era of heavyweight action.
The next few years should be fun to watch.
Let's hope so. Because the last few years haven't been particularly entertaining.
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x2x wrote:He shouldn't be getting a fight with the #2 ranked heavy after fighting the guys he's been fighting, and struggling with. I'd rather see him fight the guy that Povetkin just KO'd in round one, Perez. Perez would be a HUGE step up for him and I'd put my money on Perez to beat him handily.
Shouldn't be fighting the number 2 guy? Who else is a world champion supposed to face?
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forcefraser wrote: Shouldn't be fighting the number 2 guy? Who else is a world champion supposed to face?
World champion my ass.
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Once again, I'm not a fan of Wilder and I think his opposition for a world champion is atrocious. I also think he should fight his mandatory challenger Povetkin in his very next fight. But I can't understand all the hype around Povetkin as if he is some unbeatable monster. I completely agree with Peter Fury on Povetkin. Here are his quotes from his interview to boxingnewsonline.net:

“I don’t think Povetkin will do any good with Wilder because he’s got to get to Wilder. He doesn’t do well against bigger fighters, he won’t be able to get past Wilder’s reach,” he noted.

“Povetkin’s got too many disadvantages. You saw what happened against Wladimir Klitschko.

“Povetkin’s a very, very good man against someone his own size, but when he fights a big man there’s nothing going for him, he doesn’t know what to do.

“I don’t see why everyone is hyping Povetkin, I see Wilder doing him to be honest.”
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Wilder is got good chance knocking out Povetkin in the later rounds; if you take look at his fights against Klischko and Huck . His legs were unstable and shaky. If Wilder has a good condition; his chance is good!
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Everyone hypes Povetkin up a bit to much imo. Povetkins resume is impressive but most of the guys he has beaten are under 6'4 and not that big. Marco Huck beat him imo but got screwed over in Russia by the ref and judges. Povetkin looked ALL TIME AWFUL against Wlad, I know Wlad is dominant, but man 119-103 on all three cards? that's chris algeri- vs pacman bad. Wilder may still be a bit raw and may not have an iron chin but he has the best right hand in the divison atm and his workrate and stamina for a heavyweight is off the charts. AJ hasn't proved yet tha the can look good in the 11th round of a fight. Lets see him go past 6 before we proclaim AJ as the next Lennox
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Wilder will ko povetkin in 6 rounds . FACT :bag:

povetkin is over rated--whos his biggest win ?? a cruiserweight (huck) ?? a washed up byrd ? 78 year old Larry donald?

His record is no better than wilders
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493dart wrote:Wilder will ko povetkin in 6 rounds . FACT :bag:

povetkin is over rated--whos his biggest win ?? a cruiserweight (huck) ?? a washed up byrd ? 78 year old Larry donald?

His record is no better than wilders
This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever read here. Povetkin's resume sh^&s all over Wilder's . . . .
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Wilder has looked pretty terrible everytime hes been v a higher class journyman, wide open a lot of the time, I can see povetkin landing early within the first 6 and KO'ing him, i just can't see how an unexperianced wide open fighter will beat an experienced smart boxer . Either way i'm looking forward to the fight any fight like this is great for the heavyweight division. Wilder is untested and I don't count stiverne(terrible in my opinion). I'm not sure why povetkin is getting such a bad wrap in this thread, his only defeat being Wlad who has destroyed anyone and that fight was a big joke 100's of clenches zero points off due to typical KLITSchko ref and to anyone saying he hasent fought anyone, check anyone else in the top 10 and see who they've been against.
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493dart wrote:Wilder will ko povetkin in 6 rounds . FACT :bag:

povetkin is over rated--whos his biggest win ?? a cruiserweight (huck) ?? a washed up byrd ? 78 year old Larry donald?

His record is no better than wilders
Ever heard of Chagaev?

I think even Chagaev would have like 80% winning chance against Wilder.
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dempseyfire wrote:
493dart wrote:Wilder will ko povetkin in 6 rounds . FACT :bag:

povetkin is over rated--whos his biggest win ?? a cruiserweight (huck) ?? a washed up byrd ? 78 year old Larry donald?

His record is no better than wilders
This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever read here. Povetkin's resume sh^&s all over Wilder's . . . .
That's really saying something!
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asdfjkl wrote:
493dart wrote:Wilder will ko povetkin in 6 rounds . FACT :bag:

povetkin is over rated--whos his biggest win ?? a cruiserweight (huck) ?? a washed up byrd ? 78 year old Larry donald?

His record is no better than wilders
Ever heard of Chagaev?

I think even Chagaev would have like 80% winning chance against Wilder.
Well you would be wrong .....again. :wave:
But with the crap you have been posting you should be use to it :TU:
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Boxing Writer wrote: But I can't understand all the hype around Povetkin as if he is some unbeatable monster.”
It's less hype around Povetkin, and more the thought that Wilder has been protected.
Which is hiding a flawed fighter ready to be found out.
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tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
493dart wrote:Wilder will ko povetkin in 6 rounds . FACT :bag:

povetkin is over rated--whos his biggest win ?? a cruiserweight (huck) ?? a washed up byrd ? 78 year old Larry donald?

His record is no better than wilders
Ever heard of Chagaev?

I think even Chagaev would have like 80% winning chance against Wilder.
Well you would be wrong .....again. :wave:
But with the crap you have been posting you should be use to it :TU:
Hahaha, show me one post where I have been wrong? If something can actually be proved, it will be me being right.


Edit: Pianeta won against Duhaupas without problems, Chagaev KOed Pianeta in the first round.

I don't expect any answer back actually, I assume even you realise how dumb your post actually was don't you?
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Huge reach , with huge power and speed.

Wilder by ko6
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asdfjkl wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Wilder will ko povetkin in 6 rounds . FACT :bag:

povetkin is over rated--whos his biggest win ?? a cruiserweight (huck) ?? a washed up byrd ? 78 year old Larry donald?

His record is no better than wilders
Ever heard of Chagaev?

I think even Chagaev would have like 80% winning chance against Wilder.
Well you would be wrong .....again. :wave:
But with the crap you have been posting you should be use to it :TU:
Hahaha, show me one post where I have been wrong? If something can actually be proved, it will be me being right.


Edit: Pianeta won against Duhaupas without problems, Chagaev KOed Pianeta in the first round.

I don't expect any answer back actually, I assume even you realise how dumb your post actually was don't you?
I honestly believe you are either 12 years old which would at least explain your asinine rants.
Or you have the mental capacity of a retarded mosquito.

Either way you are a waste of space on this forum.
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tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
tiny_acres wrote: Well you would be wrong .....again. :wave:
But with the crap you have been posting you should be use to it :TU:
Hahaha, show me one post where I have been wrong? If something can actually be proved, it will be me being right.


Edit: Pianeta won against Duhaupas without problems, Chagaev KOed Pianeta in the first round.

I don't expect any answer back actually, I assume even you realise how dumb your post actually was don't you?
I honestly believe you are either 12 years old which would at least explain your asinine rants.
Or you have the mental capacity of a retarded mosquito.

Either way you are a waste of space on this forum.
Lol, how sad do you feel now? Now you proved to fail again? And please stop talking around it again, since you're not one of my ex girlfriends and neither will ever become.
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I just find it funny that Wilders hype has gotten to a new level, hell just a few days ago I had a guy compare him to Larry Holmes, crazy that in his last two fights against subpar opp he has done the stinky leg all over the ring in being hurt bad against Molina and let a guy like Johan almost close his eye shut, quit falling for the hype, Wilder has more holes than swiss, Povetkin has a much better resume.
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Wilder was rocked by a top -50 D level heavyweight in Eric Molina, so what do you thinks going to happen when Povetkin (who's on a KO streak) connects on his chin?

4 Words: Wilder. Face. First. Canvas.

To be honest I think Mike Perez, who Povetkin KO'd in round 1 would beat Wilder.

Povetkin has had more than 300 amateur fights compared with Wilder who started boxing late and only had like 40 amateur fights. The amateur background will show up in this fight.

Wilder does have a height and reach advantage but that's it. In every other way Povetkin is better even in terms of power.
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Like a Boss wrote:According to WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman, Deontay Wilder will not be able to make another voluntary, and his next fight will have to be against his mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin.
I would safely bet that Wilder vs Povetkin will NOT happen. The WBC will find a way to work around this - maybe Povetkin will be promoted to WBC Super Champion - or Wilder will give up his "regular" title, and become the WBC "Interim" Champion.

I have not faith in Heavyweight boxing anymore, after all the amount of bullsh1t that Wilder came off with about wanting to prove himself as the best and unify the division and he's completely let himself down BIG TIME!

Look at the ranking of Wilder's last two opponents - Eric Molina (currently ranked 45th) and Johann Duhaupas (currently ranked 39th)... It's pretty piss poor stuff.
:( :shame:

Are we really to believe that Wilder is going to make the massive step up to face Povetkin? I hardly think so.
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Crease wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:According to WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman, Deontay Wilder will not be able to make another voluntary, and his next fight will have to be against his mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin.
I would safely bet that Wilder vs Povetkin will NOT happen. The WBC will find a way to work around this - maybe Povetkin will be promoted to WBC Super Champion - or Wilder will give up his "regular" title, and become the WBC "Interim" Champion.

I have not faith in Heavyweight boxing anymore, after all the amount of bullsh1t that Wilder came off with about wanting to prove himself as the best and unify the division and he's completely let himself down BIG TIME!

Look at the ranking of Wilder's last two opponents - Eric Molina (currently ranked 45th) and Johann Duhaupas (currently ranked 39th)... It's pretty piss poor stuff.
:( :shame:

Are we really to believe that Wilder is going to make the massive step up to face Povetkin? I hardly think so.
I agree . . notice Wilder never mentioned Povetkin's name in any of the post-fight press.
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No, I don't think that Povetkin - Wilder will happen either. I think they've been nurturing and protecting their precious "world heavyweight champion" so that they can cash out on one big money fight vs. either Wladimir or Fury, the latter whom I am quite sure will lose to Wladimir, but it will probably be an exciting fight, and he's a showboat and a big box office draw. And yeah, I've also been saying that I believe the guy who Povetkin KO'd in round one in his last fight, Perez, would beat Wilder. Perez is solid and a league above Wilder's last two opponents, both of whom gave him plenty of trouble...and I don't suppose they are showing photos of Wilder's face after his last fight. So they'll want to bill Wilder's big cash out fight as "the fight of the century - the clash between world heavyweight champions - PPV tickets $200").
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At least Molina and Dupaupas weren't recently knocked out. Dupaupas has never been stopped until he fought Wilder. A Perez fight would just add to the ridicule which might be your goal considering you don't fancy Wilder.

Wilder needs to fight Povetkin or the Wlad-Fury winner ASAP.
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"Wilder needs to fight Povetken or the Wlad-Fury winner ASAP."

How about he tries fighting someone in the top 35 first? Nope, they wouldn't want to risk their cash cow in a real fight.
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