Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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bnovelist
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Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

Post by bnovelist »

He has the name, he has the UK fanbase that will support him so dont say he's not marketable...

The reason why Mayweather and Manny dont want to take a chance with Amir Khan

1.) Mentally and its for real Khan has SELF BELIEF! He really does believe he can give Floyd and Manny REAL problems in the ring. Its no hype of

gimmick when Khan talks to the media you can really tell he believes in himself. His mental approach is way different than Canelo, Ortiz, Berto

those guys Khan actually believes he can give Mayweather problems and Manny as well. Thurman as well he has the strong self belief!

2.) Those blistering fast hands! Seriously for the 1st few rounds both Floyd and Manny would have a hard time figuring out Khan his hands are

the fastest in the sport!

I think Khan is the one to avoid I just think its not a matter if he could beat those 2 names they didn't want to risk it. I think Khan wanting Floyd

is more than the $$$ this is the talent he wanted to match his skills up against.
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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bnovelist wrote:He has the name, he has the UK fanbase that will support him so dont say he's not marketable...

The reason why Mayweather and Manny dont want to take a chance with Amir Khan

1.) Mentally and its for real Khan has SELF BELIEF! He really does believe he can give Floyd and Manny REAL problems in the ring. Its no hype of

gimmick when Khan talks to the media you can really tell he believes in himself. His mental approach is way different than Canelo, Ortiz, Berto

those guys Khan actually believes he can give Mayweather problems and Manny as well. Thurman as well he has the strong self belief!

2.) Those blistering fast hands! Seriously for the 1st few rounds both Floyd and Manny would have a hard time figuring out Khan his hands are

the fastest in the sport!

I think Khan is the one to avoid I just think its not a matter if he could beat those 2 names they didn't want to risk it. I think Khan wanting Floyd

is more than the $$$ this is the talent he wanted to match his skills up against.
Swift had no problem with timing Khan.
Neither did Lamont Peterson (yeah, I know he was found dirty but I believe his explanation
and apparently so do other folks, most of which still list the fight as a Peterson W).

Neither Manny nor Floyd would have any problem whatsoever putting his china chinned
a$$ to sleep.
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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koolkc107 wrote:
bnovelist wrote:He has the name, he has the UK fanbase that will support him so dont say he's not marketable...

The reason why Mayweather and Manny dont want to take a chance with Amir Khan

1.) Mentally and its for real Khan has SELF BELIEF! He really does believe he can give Floyd and Manny REAL problems in the ring. Its no hype of

gimmick when Khan talks to the media you can really tell he believes in himself. His mental approach is way different than Canelo, Ortiz, Berto

those guys Khan actually believes he can give Mayweather problems and Manny as well. Thurman as well he has the strong self belief!

2.) Those blistering fast hands! Seriously for the 1st few rounds both Floyd and Manny would have a hard time figuring out Khan his hands are

the fastest in the sport!

I think Khan is the one to avoid I just think its not a matter if he could beat those 2 names they didn't want to risk it. I think Khan wanting Floyd

is more than the $$$ this is the talent he wanted to match his skills up against.
Swift had no problem with timing Khan.
Neither did Lamont Peterson (yeah, I know he was found dirty but I believe his explanation
and apparently so do other folks, most of which still list the fight as a Peterson W).

Neither Manny nor Floyd would have any problem whatsoever putting his china chinned
a$$ to sleep.
I'd have both Mayweather & Pacquiao favourites over Khan - and his constant talking about this fight & that fight is so very dull - but he is a different fighter since he joined with Hunter. Just not busy enough.

Less talking & more fighting.

Fighting every 8 months (on average) is terrible.
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

Post by ClivePatrickLyons »

Khan aint on either fighter's level only A khan Fan could even insinuate that its a joke Mayweather is level's Ahead of Khan in the boxing game
defence/chin/brain's and Pacman would KO him without doubt you know its true Khan would have to fight a perfect 10 sort of a fight to have
any hope and that won't happen :zzz:
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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Hmm, Khan just pulled out of negotiations with Pacquiao.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/10/kha ... otiations/
:OhYes:
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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Let's be real. Khan has an over inflated opinion of himself.
When negotiations would come down to him being offered 20% against
either Pac or Floyd he would walk anyway.
He could make a great payday taking on Brook but his ego will not allow it.
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tiny_acres wrote:Let's be real. Khan has an over inflated opinion of himself.
When negotiations would come down to him being offered 20% against
either Pac or Floyd he would walk anyway.
He could make a great payday taking on Brook but his ego will not allow it.
20% :lol:
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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Self Belief, lol. I watched Khan look the camera dead in the eye and say "I am going to knock Danny Garcia out" Oh and he really believed it too! :zzz:

Not gonna say he doesn't deserve it, or that he doesn't hit hard as well as his speed, he's got it all to be honest. But after those 3 losses. And YES I watched that julio diaz fight and count that as a LOSS, he was dropped cold on the canvas, but the judges gave it to him. Maybe if he fought and won against just one more notable opponent. Maybe.
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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Khan-mania was dead when he struggled to defeat Algieri (I scored it a draw). Khan had me and most people believing that he was in the top spot under Manny and Floyd at WW but this fight destroyed any leverage he had IMO. Yes, i'm going to say it again...he's just another Brit that just can't shut his mouth. These Brits just can't say "no comment", they just have to try to get a headline.

I really believe that Floyd was going to fight Khan but Khan just couldn't shut his trap to the media. Floyd doesn't negotiate in the public and Khan from the first day those negotiations began, kept updating the news hungry Brits every day. Floyd even said that Khan talked himself out of that payday.

I like Khan the boxer. If he had a world class level chin then he'd be an undefeated fighter and top P4P list guy but he doesn't. But he's done a heck of a lot with what God gave him. He's got a lot of heart in there to succeed with such an important flaw.
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

Post by Badhusker »

I admit being a Khan hater, but even if you are not, after seeing his last performance....struggling against a light welter with only 20 fights in his life should lead you to believe no one is running from him.
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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spideruski wrote:Self Belief, lol. I watched Khan look the camera dead in the eye and say "I am going to knock Danny Garcia out" Oh and he really believed it too! :zzz:

Not gonna say he doesn't deserve it, or that he doesn't hit hard as well as his speed, he's got it all to be honest. But after those 3 losses. And YES I watched that julio diaz fight and count that as a LOSS, he was dropped cold on the canvas, but the judges gave it to him. Maybe if he fought and won against just one more notable opponent. Maybe.
Khan doesn't have it all - not even close.

Little or no ring intelligence, he has no plan b when things go wrong.
Very poor punch resistance.
Decent power, but certainly not a hard hitter.
Poor defence.

His main asset it his speed, but than alone is not enough to make him a top class operator, his other deficiencies mean that fighters who are tougher, smarter or harder hitting can negate his advantage in speed.

Khan is a contender, nothing more.
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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When did Khan have a UK fanbase? He fights in the US
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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Whats up with all the Khan bashing because of the Algerie fight? Algerie has improved ALOT since hooking up with John David Jackson! You could

notice it right away the way he puts his punches together and the positioning of his body, he's definitely improved on the fundamentals of boxing.

Don't be too hard on Khan blame John David Jackson :lol: this isn't the same Algerie who fought Manny. I still believe that Khan's blistering

hand speed and his motivation for wanting a Mayweather fight so badly makes him a huge risk. I think he would've came motivated and prepared

for Floyd I just believe that. Khan wanted that fight so B-A-D its not even funny and its not just because of the money either. Like you see Amir

could look subpar against lesser fighters but against Floyd he will fight to his true potential. Like James Douglas looked like sh*t against other

fighters but he comes prepared for Tyson! Holyfield looked like crap against Bobby Chez but came prepared for Tyson! Rigo looks boring in all

of his fights but comes prepared for Donaire! I respect Floyd but Khan would have been ready for Mayweather. Khan is one of those guys that

gets up for high profile mega fights! Khan would have gotten all in Floyd's ass and Floyd isn't stupid! Floyd doesn't buy into media hype he knows

EXACTLY which fights to avoid :lol: You cannot fool Floyd Mayweather :lol: :lol: Khan would've been leading on ALL scorecards the first several

rounds he would have been way too fast and motivated. Don't buy into media hype. Khan against everyone else looks like crap but would have

rised to the occasion for a Floyd Mayweather!
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

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you see Amir could look subpar against lesser fighters but against Floyd he will fight to his true potential.
This is the most ridiculous logic I've seen, regarding any fighter, in any forum.
For instance, If I were to follow your logic, I stopped fighting after years in the Ams because according to my record I was average at best- but had I turned pro and fought Floyd, I would have been a beast and he would have been in serious trouble.
:lol:

Oh look. The logic belongs to a familiar poster known for ingenious boxing perspective.
I missed that, or I would have skipped this post.
:TU:

And for the record, I have said that I thought style-wise, Amir could pose a slight problem for Floyd-
But that's different than saying "since Amir sucks against fighters who suck, Floyd should be worried".
:lol:
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Re: Why Floyd & Manny Avoided Khan

Post by Bobbyptsd »

They both would have beaten him, I think Pac would have stopped him.

It wouldn't have been a bad fight in either case, but it's not like they were repeatedly fighting Jesus Soto Karass in the meantime anyway. They were both taking on (to varying degrees) top fighters.

Not to mention, that if Floyd had fought Khan instead of Canelo, Maidana or Pacquiao, there would have been an uproar, about how Floyd is taking the weaker fighter and it isn't even a real contest. Now that it's over and it didn't happen, Khan suddenly becomes his most feared contender. It's annoying, if predictable.

Hell, if Floyd had fought Khan instead of Berto, there would probably be threads now talking about how Floyd was avoiding Berto because he brought something different to the table. I can see it now: "We all know Berto would have tried his best, he had nothing to lose, that's why Floyd didn't want it!"
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