Rotator Cuff Injury

[jamesmcdonnell]

A lot has been written in the past on here about rotator cuff injuries...

Well I now have one, a partial tear in my Supraspinatus tendon - which I think happened about 6 weeks ago, though I can't be sure.

what I can say is this.

Even having a wank is painful (but I'm fighting through the pain) - I cannot imagine for a moment being able to throw punches with my right arm.

I did a drumming session last week which aggravated it - and it hurts like buggery now - definitely did some serious damage.

In short, any fighter who pulls out of a fight before or during - with a rotator cuff injury, I can fully understand. It's a serious injury, and I've been told it could take anything up to 18 months for it to heal properly, and that's if I don't require surgery.

Unless Manny had a cortisone injection (which is banned I thought) before the fight, there is absolutely no way he could have thrown punches like he did during the Mayweather fight - complete and utter horseshite.

[rhino222]

get it operated on mate. your local hospital with have a shoulder specialist who will operate 'through the keyhole' the procedure takes about an hour. ive seen hundreds. the results afterwards are very very good. you would be right as rain and ready for training in about 3 months.

[mike john]

ive had subacromial decompression surgery on both shoulders due to rotator cuff injuries from boxing.
my left was so severe i couldnt move my arm at all for 2 years, then it took me 18 months to recover from the surgery.
conversely, my right, although painful, didnt stop me working, although it did compromise my training significantly, i could have put in a full blooded session if i chose to, and paid the price afterwards. i recovered from the surgery a lot faster also.

its not beyond the realms of possibility that manny fought as he did with a rotator cuff injury of some sort.

if you're an nhs patient, id advise you to seek private care if you can afford to do so, at the very least for a diagnosis. in my experience, the medical "professionals" ive been dealt with on the nhs are beyond clueless

[bripez]

ive had subacromial decompression surgery on both shoulders due to rotator cuff injuries

Same here - my left shoulder was bad and my right shoulder was sound (painful to change gear in my car etc. also being left handed this could have affected my "love life" if I let it - like you I worked through the pain barrier!).

As soon as I had the left one operated on the right shoulder started playing up !

[jamesmcdonnell]

get it operated on mate. your local hospital with have a shoulder specialist who will operate 'through the keyhole' the procedure takes about an hour. ive seen hundreds. the results afterwards are very very good. you would be right as rain and ready for training in about 3 months.

I'm really hoping I can avoid an operation. I'm due to travel to Brazil in January to play at Rio carnival, an op will put pay to that.

[jamesmcdonnell]

ive had subacromial decompression surgery on both shoulders due to rotator cuff injuries from boxing.
my left was so severe i couldnt move my arm at all for 2 years, then it took me 18 months to recover from the surgery.
conversely, my right, although painful, didnt stop me working, although it did compromise my training significantly, i could have put in a full blooded session if i chose to, and paid the price afterwards. i recovered from the surgery a lot faster also.

its not beyond the realms of possibility that manny fought as he did with a rotator cuff injury of some sort.

if you're an nhs patient, id advise you to seek private care if you can afford to do so, at the very least for a diagnosis. in my experience, the medical "professionals" ive been dealt with on the nhs are beyond clueless

I see that, they didn't even offer me an MRI through the NHS. I'm going for physio through Nuffield as I have private healthcare through work. Please god no op.

[bripez]

ive had subacromial decompression surgery on both shoulders due to rotator cuff injuries from boxing.
my left was so severe i couldnt move my arm at all for 2 years, then it took me 18 months to recover from the surgery.
conversely, my right, although painful, didnt stop me working, although it did compromise my training significantly, i could have put in a full blooded session if i chose to, and paid the price afterwards. i recovered from the surgery a lot faster also.

its not beyond the realms of possibility that manny fought as he did with a rotator cuff injury of some sort.

if you're an nhs patient, id advise you to seek private care if you can afford to do so, at the very least for a diagnosis. in my experience, the medical "professionals" ive been dealt with on the nhs are beyond clueless

I see that, they didn't even offer me an MRI through the NHS. I'm going for physio through Nuffield as I have private healthcare through work. Please god no op.

I had physio every Friday for 6 months - I don't know your situation but if you have private health cover then get an MRI scan as soon as possible.

Worst case you could have a consultation next week, a scan the week after and an op the week after that. The op I had was keyhole and not a big deal - you will be right as rain for Christmas.

In the meantime ( stating the obvious) don't try to work through the pain, if you are doing something that causes pain the don't do it - unless of course it is a particularly favourite hobby!

[jamesmcdonnell]

Not sure my health cover runs to ops or not. I need to find out, I have to go through the process. I have a phone assessment (WTF?) with Nuffield and then have to go from there.

Wish I could just get an MRI, seems ridiculous to try and diagnose something as troublesome as a shoulder injury with such old fashioned methods. The doctor said I may have a partial tear, but how on earth can she tell? It might just be impingment, which hopefully can be managed with physio, but surely best if they do an MRI straight away, I know why they don't, it's cost, but if I end up having to have an op as a result of late diagnosis then that will cost a lot more.

[jamesmcdonnell]

ive had subacromial decompression surgery on both shoulders due to rotator cuff injuries from boxing.
my left was so severe i couldnt move my arm at all for 2 years, then it took me 18 months to recover from the surgery.
conversely, my right, although painful, didnt stop me working, although it did compromise my training significantly, i could have put in a full blooded session if i chose to, and paid the price afterwards. i recovered from the surgery a lot faster also.

its not beyond the realms of possibility that manny fought as he did with a rotator cuff injury of some sort.

if you're an nhs patient, id advise you to seek private care if you can afford to do so, at the very least for a diagnosis. in my experience, the medical "professionals" ive been dealt with on the nhs are beyond clueless

I see that, they didn't even offer me an MRI through the NHS. I'm going for physio through Nuffield as I have private healthcare through work. Please god no op.

I had physio every Friday for 6 months - I don't know your situation but if you have private health cover then get an MRI scan as soon as possible.

Worst case you could have a consultation next week, a scan the week after and an op the week after that. The op I had was keyhole and not a big deal - you will be right as rain for Christmas.

In the meantime ( stating the obvious) don't try to work through the pain, if you are doing something that causes pain the don't do it - unless of course it is a particularly favourite hobby!

Trouble is, it hurts even typing, and I have to type for work (and here of course) I can't afford to not work.

[mike john]

ive had subacromial decompression surgery on both shoulders due to rotator cuff injuries from boxing.
my left was so severe i couldnt move my arm at all for 2 years, then it took me 18 months to recover from the surgery.
conversely, my right, although painful, didnt stop me working, although it did compromise my training significantly, i could have put in a full blooded session if i chose to, and paid the price afterwards. i recovered from the surgery a lot faster also.

its not beyond the realms of possibility that manny fought as he did with a rotator cuff injury of some sort.

if you're an nhs patient, id advise you to seek private care if you can afford to do so, at the very least for a diagnosis. in my experience, the medical "professionals" ive been dealt with on the nhs are beyond clueless

I see that, they didn't even offer me an MRI through the NHS. I'm going for physio through Nuffield as I have private healthcare through work. Please god no op.

if id have gone to the private physio i eventually saw in the first place, i could have avoided surgery on my right shoulder altogether.
on the nhs, they misdiagnosed the problem as a mild tear, then prescribed rotator cuff strengthening exercises which made the problem a whole lot worse. the surgery didnt fix the underlying problem either, which turned out to be an overly contracted rotator cuff muscle, referring pain into my shoulder. the muscle was so tight, it caused pain at the source, but also couldnt do its job of stabilising the joint properly. the private physio could literally see the problem by eye, the muscle was so bulked up. ive no idea how the physio on the nhs missed this.
2 months of acupuncture loosened everything up, and that was that, sorted. unless a scan reveals a definite tear, id urge you to seek the advice of someone who specialises in trigger point therapy/active release therapy and western ( not eastern ) acupuncture/dry needling.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Thanks for the advice. I was a little perplexed how the doctor could prescribe physio without having a scan done. It's like suggesting situps to someone with a hernia.