Canelo says Golovkin must fight him at 155lb catch-weight

[Tarkus]

Why should GGG agree to less than 160? Let alone 155?

GGG is the 160 pound champ and should be allowed to defend at that weight

Its not what he should or should not. Its what he might. He might be interested in Canelo at 158 as it is that big fight he was looking for. If it comes to that I am sure he would rather fight Canelo/Cotto at 158 then some one else at 160. He could make 158. Less then that though is just pushing it.

[jezzamundo]

If it happens next year, I'm betting it's at 157lb, or perhaps even 156lb, seeing as that's the number Golovkin's promoter mentioned earlier.

[Tarkus]

If it happens next year, I'm betting it's at 157lb, or perhaps even 156lb, seeing as that's the number Golovkin's promoter mentioned earlier.

Possibly. Anyway it is about the time for Canelo to move to 156 division.

[koolkc107]

If it happens next year, I'm betting it's at 157lb, or perhaps even 156lb, seeing as that's the number Golovkin's promoter mentioned earlier.

It'll be at whatever weight Canelo or Cotto say or there will be no fight and no big payday for Golovkin.

[ikorolev]

Why should GGG agree to less than 160? Let alone 155?

GGG is the 160 pound champ and should be allowed to defend at that weight

Its not what he should or should not. Its what he might. He might be interested in Canelo at 158 as it is that big fight he was looking for. If it comes to that I am sure he would rather fight Canelo/Cotto at 158 then some one else at 160. He could make 158. Less then that though is just pushing it.

He might be interested in a non-title fight with Canelo (and Cotto for that matter) at 155. However, his main purpose is unification, so Canelo/Cotto will have to fight him at 160 or drop the belt.

[ikorolev]

If it happens next year, I'm betting it's at 157lb, or perhaps even 156lb, seeing as that's the number Golovkin's promoter mentioned earlier.

It'll be at whatever weight Canelo or Cotto say or there will be no fight and no big payday for Golovkin.

F4ck the payday. Golovkin is happy with what he is earning. He wants the belts.

[koolkc107]

If it happens next year, I'm betting it's at 157lb, or perhaps even 156lb, seeing as that's the number Golovkin's promoter mentioned earlier.

It'll be at whatever weight Canelo or Cotto say or there will be no fight and no big payday for Golovkin.

F4ck the payday. Golovkin is happy with what he is earning. He wants the belts.

No, YOU are happy with what he is earning.

Trust me, Golovkin wants that filthy lucre just like every other prizefighter. And he is already on record as willing to come down in weight for a big payday.

[ikorolev]

He wants that but that is not his first priority. This is why he, Kovalev and a few others are on top now -- because they are real sportsmen wanting to prove that they are the best and not just calculating how to earn the most with the least risk.

[koolkc107]

He wants that but that is not his first priority. This is why he, Kovalev and a few others are on top now -- because they are real sportsmen wanting to prove that they are the best and not just calculating how to earn the most with the least risk.

No, it his first priority. Krusher's too.

And I call not fighting Andre Ward or Erislandy Lara proof that Golovkin is just as concerned with risk/reward as any other fighter.

I call pulling out of a purse bid with Adonis being just as concerned with risk/reward as any other fighter.

And BTW, I wouldn't call either guy "on top".
Someday, maybe, but not today.

[ikorolev]

He wants that but that is not his first priority. This is why he, Kovalev and a few others are on top now -- because they are real sportsmen wanting to prove that they are the best and not just calculating how to earn the most with the least risk.

No, it his first priority. Krusher's too.

And I call not fighting Andre Ward or Erislandy Lara proof that Golovkin is just as concerned with risk/reward as any other fighter.

I call pulling out of a purse bid with Adonis being just as concerned with risk/reward as any other fighter.

And BTW, I wouldn't call either guy "on top".
Someday, maybe, but not today.

Fighting Ward or Lara was not in line with unification of MW belts which is why it hasn't happened. Besides, Lara is a Haymon fighter.

You know that Kovalev pulled out of the purse bid, because Duva signed him with HBO and not because of stupid "risk" of fighting Stevenson. Kovalev wants to kick Stevenson's and Beterbiev's a$$es, but Haymon is protecting his guys.

And yes, Golovkin and Kovalev are on top, and that is what drives fans like you crazy -- they took place which always belonged to a certain category of boxers. That era is over. Live with that.

[koolkc107]

How is Haymon protecting Stevenson from Kovalev by trying to have a purse bid for the fight?

They were signed to HBO when they made the sanctioning body mandate a purse bid. Then Duva pulled out of the purse bid she herself had forced.

We're done here til you calm down and start making sense.

[koolkc107]

"I respect Tom and he's a nice man, but as it relates to this issue - he's way off-base," Yormark told BS.com. "The chatter that you've been hearing from Triple G's camp is inappropriate, inaccurate and we need to clear this up immediately."

"Andre Ward has always fought the best opponents that were available, and that holds true today as well. We want to fight the best and we obviously consider Triple G a formidable opponent. We made an offer to fight Triple G. It was the number one priority on Andre's list."

"We made him an offer, prior quite frankly, to knowing about the fight with Lemieux. But regardless of that fight, the offer was very, very clear - that he and Andre would both have one fight before they fought each other, and they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016. So obviously the fight with Lemieux would continue to move forward and the next fight would be Andre in 2016.

"They received the offer and in 36 minutes we got a response which basically stated 'we cannot accept the offer and we're going in a different direction.' In 36 minutes [they turned it down], so that tells me there was not even any consideration given to the offer, because at the end of the day Triple G always knew that he would never fight Andre Ward. He's stated publically, and in writing, that he would go up to 168 to fight anybody but Andre. We put an official offer on the table and we got a 'no' in 36 minutes.

"I think you can assume that a fight between Triple G and Andre Ward is a fight that people would love to see. It would be great for HBO. I think, for the most part, everyone was on board - with the exception of Triple G and his camp. How do you respond in 36 minutes with a 'no' - unless you had no intention of fighting Andre Ward.

"The only way you respond in 36 minutes is if you had no intention of ever fighting this guy. That's what 36 minutes tells you. Because if they did had a desire to fight Andre, and get in there with one of the best fighters in the world, they would have responded with 'thank you for your offer, we're going to discuss this with our fighter and get back to you.' That's typically how it's done. You don't respond in 36 minutes."

"The split would have been a secondary issue behind making the fight and having a desire in making the fight. If they had responded to the email and said 'listen, let's sit down, let's negotiate and let's see if we can come to terms' - then that's a different story. We didn't have the opportunity to talk a split, we didn't have the opportunity to talk about who was the B or the A-side. We didn't have the opportunity talk about any details. To come out and say who would be the A-side and talk about splits, the reality was - they said 'no' in 36 minutes."

"Right now, Andre Ward is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and they don't want nothing to do with him. I don't care what weight it is, I don't care what city it is, I don't care what country they fight in - they don't want nothing to do with the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. That's not on their agenda. They can continue to fight journeymen and protect his record and try to continue to build this invincibility aura that he currently has. The fight with Andre Ward would have bee the fight to prove to people if he's as good as people think."

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Canelo can eff off. Just leave the 160 belt behind for 160 fighters. 155 pounds, what a joke.

Totally agree............. I was going to back Canelo to win his clash with GGG because he will dethrone Cotto but after hearing that sh.t I won't be.

[Tarkus]

He wants that but that is not his first priority. This is why he, Kovalev and a few others are on top now -- because they are real sportsmen wanting to prove that they are the best and not just calculating how to earn the most with the least risk.

Maybe but you fail to take into account the fact that with taking Canelo at 158 he will be able to kill two rabbits with one shot. And that my friend is the offer he cant refuse. Not for mere 2 pounds.

Answer me this. If he was facing a choice to fight for WBC title against Canelo at 158 or someone else much less known at 160 what would he choose? No brainer in my opinion.

[Joe Boxer]

Golovkin should say, "F@ck you, Canelo!" and and not give into his p@ssy catch-weight demand. Then after negotiations are over and the fight is made for 160, show up at the weigh-in at a trim 155lbs

[man]

Believe it or not, the 25-year-old Canelo feels that he’s not a true 160lb fighter yet, even though he rehydrates to as high as 175lbs for his fights at 155lbs. That’s 15 pounds over the 160lb middleweight limit. It’s very peculiar that Canelo doesn’t want to fight Golovkin at 160, because Canelo actually weighs more than Golovkin after he rehydrates.

It doesn’t make sense for Canelo not to face Golovkin at 160, because it has to hurt his performance having to drain down in weight 20 pounds to get to the 155lb catch-weights that he’s fighting at.

canelo is quite a bit younger and takes
the weight yoyo easier.

[ikorolev]

Canelo has never fought at MW. He's not a MW.

How is he not a MW ? His weight in the ring is the same or even above of Golovkin's or some other MWs.

What Canelo is saying that he only wants to fight smaller guys and is not willing to face somebody of his own size.

[Cyclops]

Canelo has never fought at MW. He's not a MW.

How is he not a MW ? His weight in the ring is the same or even above of Golovkin's or some other MWs.

What Canelo is saying that he only wants to fight smaller guys and is not willing to face somebody of his own size.

[Like a Boss]

Believe it or not, the 25-year-old Canelo feels that he’s not a true 160lb fighter yet, even though he rehydrates to as high as 175lbs for his fights at 155lbs. That’s 15 pounds over the 160lb middleweight limit. It’s very peculiar that Canelo doesn’t want to fight Golovkin at 160, because Canelo actually weighs more than Golovkin after he rehydrates.

It doesn’t make sense for Canelo not to face Golovkin at 160, because it has to hurt his performance having to drain down in weight 20 pounds to get to the 155lb catch-weights that he’s fighting at.

canelo is quite a bit younger and takes
the weight yoyo easier.

That is a positive. It doesn't support his excuse.

[jezzamundo]

To say that a guy who struggles to make the 154lb limit, weighs in at up to 174lb on fight night and barely makes 30 day weigh-in limits isn't a natural middleweight is frankly, stupid. I agree Canelo is a small middleweight - he's short and stocky, but if we're talking purely about weight, he's a natural middleweight who drains to make the 154lb division, which probably negatively affects his performance (let's face it, the guy doesn't throw a lot of punches and rarely fights 3 minutes of a round, which is troubling for someone his age).

[sucracristo]

Answer me this. If he was facing a choice to fight for WBC title against Canelo at 158 or someone else much less known at 160 what would he choose? No brainer in my opinion.

158 sounds very likely for GGG to accept in order to make the fight.
conversely, GGG is the WBC mandatory and canelo has to vacate
the title (cotto has repeatedly and emphatically said he will vacate
rather than fight GGG) if canelo doesn't fight GGG. i don't think canlelo
will want to walk away from the biggest ppv fight of 2016 and vacate his
title and look like a punk if GGG doesn't agree on anything lower than 158.
that doesn't sound like canelo. the canelo-cotto fight wouldn't be happening
in the first place if GGG and the WBC didn't agree to let it happen, and they
agreed because GGG was given lemieux in the meantime and cotto and
canelo both signed contracts for the winner to defend against canelo by may
at the latest or vacate. i don't think canelo wants to vacate.

[man]

i think canelo cannot vacate without putting a
huge question mark on his career. but i think
he might try every move in the book to delay
in order to make GGG lose his prime. since the
alphabets are not the most ethical of places he
might succeed for a year or two.