Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

Lee vs. Saunders Winner and How?

Poll ended at 10 Aug 2015, 19:24

Andy Lee Stoppage
54
38%
Andy Lee Decision
23
16%
Draw
4
3%
Billy Joe Saunders Decision
58
41%
Billy Joe Saunders Stoppage
2
1%
 
Total votes: 141

ThereByTheGrace
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

Post by ThereByTheGrace »

I think Andy Lee will win. If Eubank had started a bit quicker against Saunders he would have beat him. Lee has operated at a higher level. Great fight though hope it happens.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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I believe this happens when I see it. They didn't exactly get a great reception last night and it should be in London or Dublin Arena which is free that weekend.

It doesn't sell in Manchester.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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deadpan wrote:
Wrists wrote:Lee is a class above
Undoubtedly. Saunders would've been life and death with Kid Milo.
And Lou Gent.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

Post by dutchie »

Lee easily.....
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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Wouldn't mind seeing Richard Towers vs. Tom Little on the undercard of this show...
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

Post by dutchie »

who else is on the undercard.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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dutchie wrote:who else is on the undercard.
Liam Smith, Tommy Langford, Jack Catterall and Paul Butler...
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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dutchie wrote:who else is on the undercard.
Liam Smith, Derry Mathews, Jack Catterall, Tommy Langford, Paul Butler, Mitchell Smith, Adrian Gonzalez, Liam Williams and Vijender Singh.

Mitchell Smith is fighting George Jupp, which is the only opponent officially announced so far. Derry's expected to fight Ismael Barroso, seen Silvio Olteanu suggested for Butler and Williams is either defending the Commonwealth title or fighting Kris Carslaw for the vacant British title.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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Any other Irish on the card.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

Post by MarkMcBurney »

Still trying to work out who Quinlin is.....
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

Post by CMDY »

Am very very buzzed about this fight. Fan of both boxers. I can see BJS ahead going late from landing more combinations, before getting put down for a count in the 11th or 12th and then the judges having a long wait to announce a SD result - but which way?!

Just watching replay of the allegedly head to head interview. Interesting that BJS presents his slightly lacklustre 2nd half against Eubank as taking foot off the gas because he knew he had won so well in the 1st half of the fight. A lot of people's opinion is that it was more a case of BJS gassing. I think (obviously) the answer to that question maybe paramount to the actual outcome.

BJS has stated that he wasn't 100% focused on Eubank, in his mind he dismissed him a little (maybe subconsciously), and I do believe the Eubank "show" must be hard to get up for as he couldn't say with certainty whether the fight would happen or not.

In terms of game plan, I think it's obvious both fighters are highly intelligent. BJS is known to be foot on the gas from the veryget-go, I wonder if for this one BJS does something completely different and starts cage-ly.

Either way, this is a massively exciting fight, big-big fight
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

Post by adamsmed »

Am stuck between billy out boxing him or lee ko
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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I think BJS' boxing skills are underrated. Watch him fight Spike O'Sullivan... The lad is a very good operator, who is pretty difficult to hit. Really good jab and lets his punches go in bunches. His judgment of distance is very sound.

Im a big fan of Robert McCracken, but he wouldnt have beaten BJS. McCracken best achivements were at light middle when he was massive for the weight. McCracken really didnt beat anyone of note at Middleweight and arguably his best career win was over Ensley Bingham at light middle.

I could foresee BJS outboxing Lee.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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Liam Williams-Kris Carslaw confirmed for the Commonwealth and vacant British light middleweight titles.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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Liam Smith versus Dusty Harrison also apparently signed.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Liam Smith versus Dusty Harrison also apparently signed.
28-0...
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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28 Tony Jetters
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Liam Smith versus Dusty Harrison also apparently signed.
Good record but he's a welter. it's obvious they want a gimme but it's half a stone of natural size difference and what is the point of having weight divisions if you can just do this ?
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

Post by ThereByTheGrace »

So much for smith v Mosley - more bluster and pr
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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JimJim2009 wrote:
Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Liam Smith versus Dusty Harrison also apparently signed.
Good record but he's a welter. it's obvious they want a gimme but it's half a stone of natural size difference and what is the point of having weight divisions if you can just do this ?
Surely a past-it LWW name would have been more beneficial for Smiths resume than this no-name WW. Hopefully hes a bit of a personality who can at least hype the fight...
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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Paul Butler v Silvio Olteanu, WBO European Super Flyweight title. Card starting to take shape.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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Black Sam Bellamy wrote:28 Tony Jetters
:OhYes: well done, Sam
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Liam Smith versus Dusty Harrison also apparently signed.
I would be surprised if Roc-Nation put Harrison in a world title fight above his own division away from home at this stage. Its a big jump in levels and he is still only 21yrs old. Lots of time for him to develop at welterweight.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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samwbr wrote:
Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Liam Smith versus Dusty Harrison also apparently signed.
I would be surprised if Roc-Nation put Harrison in a world title fight above his own division away from home at this stage. Its a big jump in levels and he is still only 21yrs old. Lots of time for him to develop at welterweight.
Yeah but this promoter simply does not announce such things unless it's all sorted out first.
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Re: Andy Lee (c) vs. Billy Joe Saunders - December 19th 2015

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JimJim2009 wrote:
samwbr wrote:
Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Liam Smith versus Dusty Harrison also apparently signed.
I would be surprised if Roc-Nation put Harrison in a world title fight above his own division away from home at this stage. Its a big jump in levels and he is still only 21yrs old. Lots of time for him to develop at welterweight.
Yeah but this promoter simply does not announce such things unless it's all sorted out first.
Harrisons dad Buddy has tweeted both Smith and Warren this week to ask them to consider Dusty as an opponent.
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