drugs, so, as it seems boxing is relatively clean.

[man]

no real big scandals, occasionally something
happening here and there but no one makes
a big thing out of it.

scandal (long) overdue? or is it that it is a
martial sport anyways and who cares?

i for one believe 8outof10 top ten fighters
in each division juice in one or the other way.
in such a loosely regulated sport with so much
at stake in each performance it can't be any
different.

[nfc90210]

To quote the retired MMA fighter Brian Stann...

..."Currently, what athletic commissions are doing testing the day of the fight is not enough. That's almost an IQ test."..

That quote applies just as much to boxing as it did to MMA (the quote is from 2014, and since then the UFC has hooked up with USADA to implement enhanced testing).

If boxers are just subject to commission testing then those tests are very beatable, and I would suspect that lots of guys are beating them and have been for years. Not everyone. Definitely some though.

Whether a scandal is brewing I don't know. It's not like in boxing there is one dominant league like in MMA, and the public as a whole seem to take a Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy when it comes to PEDs.

[caldo2025]

Without any proof and if i'm asked to give me honest opinion (if anyone cared i should say), I would agree. I think that performance enhancing drugs of some kind or all kinds is a must to be an elite boxer nowadays. The testing is a joke. Boxing's biggest proponent was caught masking via illegal IV's vs. Manny and that should tell you all that you need to know.

With that said, i don't care. If there was a drug that made me do my job twice as well and get paid life changing money, you bet i'd be the first one in line. If the baseball steroid era showed us anything, it proved that most of those players that chose to juice said that they had to in order to be competitive because everyone was doing it. Keeping up with the Jones's. I mean look at these boxers and their physiques. Most of them are ripped up and muscles our their ears. And it's been going on for years. One look at Holyfield's physique will tell you all you need to know.

[man]

With that said, i don't care.

i am a little nuanced on that. i am watching
a sport, the proponents of which are risking
their health already by playing by the rules.
putting additional risk on them by forcing the
use of PEDs since everyone is doing it, seems
unfair to me. plus it is more difficult for the
ones entering without access to the real good
stuff and know how.

that being said i have no issue on the moral side.
to me they are not cheating but doing their job
and the environment forces them to do something
outside the officially denied, but unofficially quite
accepted rules.

i think it is a pity and should change. but no one
really cares, that is the problem. so it could well
be that things stay as they are for decades.

[punchoutsb]

i am a little nuanced on that. i am watching
a sport, the proponents of which are risking
their health already by playing by the rules.
putting additional risk on them by forcing the
use of PEDs since everyone is doing it, seems
unfair to me.

PED use does not necessarily mean more damage. In fact, and any doctor worth his salt will tell you this, PED use is more readily linked to faster healing and recovery time.

plus it is more difficult for the
ones entering without access to the real good
stuff and know how.

Then why not test for performance enhancing activities too? A lauded Olympian turning pro has access to better facilities, coaches, trainers, nutrition, etc than your average fighter. There is no level playing ground in anything...ever.

PED's should be made legal and regulated. They're not the scary monster folks like to believe they are. And if you believe that, go watch fat chubby John McDermott beat the crap out of juiced to the gills muscle head Larry O.

[diddy]

Man, tell me you're joking. Tell me this is just you practicing trolling performance art.

PED use is RAMPANT in combat sports. Absolutely RAMPANT. Blood tests are administered next to never. Far too expensive and far too effective. Standard piss tests only catch the guys who havent been schooled on how to cheat.

[man]

Man, tell me you're joking. Tell me this is just you practicing trolling performance art.

well, i guess i've finally turned into a troll then.

[sucracristo]

the public as a whole seem to take a Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy when it comes to PEDs.

i couldn't give a rat's ass about most of the things wada and vada test for and all
the over the counter stuff that costs olympians medals. there needs to be some
priorities set for stuff that really matters and just test for that stuff, especially for
world ranked fighters in big venues on tv. cost is not an issue at the elite level and
we are all talking about the need for PED's at the elite level to keep up with the jones'.
i would say bad matchmaking is a bigger issue in boxing, then probably draining (have
several weigh-ins leading up to and including day of fight), not getting fighters on the
mandatorily present ambulance (that's what it is there for) after tough fights,
bad refs and cornermen, etc, etc.