Fury vs Klitschko II? Poll

[CMDY]

Massive Congrats to Tyson Fury.

Looking ahead to the future, it was contracted (I believe) with a rematch. Unless WK hangs up his gloves, how would everyone call a rematch, or will WK decide he has achieved enough and a rematch won't happen?

[SNG]

He hasn't exactly got a great history of rematching his losses.

[Boxerbeetle]

Wlad retires after this. Just couldn't pull the trigger.

[CMDY]

I think Paul Smith on Sky just said there wasn't a rematch clause! Am sure more will be revealed. What an amazing victory tonight. I am very pleased also that he stuck with Mick Hennessy throughout the journey - great stuff!

[rd350lc]

I hope this doesn't happen again , fair play to Fury on the win but it was a shocking fight tbh

[Sklar]

Don't see it happening. From a selfish PoV the way the fight turned out is sad. Wlad is the last of my era so to speak, that it looks like he's come to the end of the road tells me I'm an old man too now. That's the way of the world of course. Wlad should probably accept that and leave it to the young uns.

Change of tack...

Will Peter ever be able to get into the States?

[Stuarty]

He hasn't exactly got a great history of rematching his losses.

Beat Brewster. Big Vitali took care of Sanders easy enough.

[Stuarty]

I hope this doesn't happen again , fair play to Fury on the win but it was a shocking fight tbh

Wasn't the best fight but to be fair I was scared to look away! Captivating!

[bigjack]

Wlad retires after this. Just couldn't pull the trigger.

I'd agree with this,couldn't deal with Fury's movement at all.

[gilgamesh]

Unless Wladimir intends to fight in the rematch. It's pointless. He might as well have not even showed up today. He gave Fury the fight on a silver platter. Fury is about as weak a Heavyweight Champion as there is, and half of the Top 10 could dethrone him in his 1st title defense.

I'm not sure Wlad is one of them though. Wlad was just a complete bitch in there today. Didn't even try to fight, even when Fury was giving him free shots with his hands behind his back.

[Boxerbeetle]

Apparently Wlad has just said in the press conference he intends to take the rematch?

[tiny_acres]

Apparently Wlad has just said in the press conference he intends to take the rematch?

Give him time to talk to his beautiful wife and little baby.
I think he will change his mind a announce his retirement.He is wealthy,healthy and has a hot young wife.
He has nothing to prove and will figure it out.

[Flump]

If Fury turns into a bargain bucket Riddick Bowe and is 30 pounds heavier and untrained, then it could go horribly wrong. But Klitschko is terrified of engaging if he thinks there's a punch coming back so you would have to favour an in shape Fury again, probably inside the distance.

[Bodyshot3]

Pretty much that Flump.....Tyson should of course enjoy his victory because there's a lot to celebrate.

BUT Peter Fury must keep a tight rein on his nephew and there needs to be a very direct conversation about not wasting the opportunity and that if Wlad does invoke his rematch option you can take it as read that the guy will move heaven and earth to try and improve on every level.

However, looking back over the fight I am struggling to see what Wlad could do at his advanced age to win a rematch. Would more aggression work and just letting the big punches go earlier? Seriously risky against Fury who is more than happy to have guys come at him.

What Wlad needs to happen is for Tyson not to make the huge commitment in the gym and get distracted by the hoopla and then get over-excited/arrogant and throw the gameplan away on fight night.

Peter's smart guy though and I am confident he will have worked any post-victory scenario. He's been generally underestimated as a trainer and also as a man manager; the guy will have a plan.

[Cap]

Klitschko missed several opportunities to land on Fury. Was it because his timing was off or was he just afraid to commit? He should probably retire but likely won't. Unless Fury hits the self-destruct button, I don't fancy Wlad's chances in a rematch. I scored this one a draw and don't expect Wlad to improve.

[Grilling Machine]

Klitschko was troubled by Fury's thing-on-a-spring movement and Mr Tickle reach, but I felt that Fury was troubled himself whenever Klitschko threw punchees in bunchees. Which was hardly ever, because although he was fast enough to close the distance, Fury's head movement was too good for him.

Styles do indeed make fights, and like you, Cap, I'd be 50:50 in a rematch. If Klitschko was willing to accept the danger of throwing leather, I'd still make him the heavy favourite that I initially did, but we saw another side to him last night. Joshua's artillery sure would be interesting at this point. AJ has the height, speed, reach, and - most of all - venom. Even the ageing Haye still represents a threat, I think. Although he'd really struggle against this evasive Mk II Fury. Toe-to-toe, I'd still fancy Haye.

As Sklar said, Klitschko's slide makes me feel that bit older. I don't think he's faded that much minute-by-minute, but he did seem concerned about conserving his energy to last the 12. He spent most of his time fruitlessly chasing, knowing that Fury would lean on him whenever they closed. But as Vitali visibly felt at ringside, you have to engage at some point. And it was Klitschko himself who initiated many of the clinches, often depriving himself of an inside advantage.

Fury fought as I expected, but with better head movement. Klitschko also fought as I expected, but failed to land that one big shot. He was just too negative. Both were, but Fury won fair and square, boxing to his strengths. And it was actually Fury who looked more likely to score a KO late in the fight, with clubbing, albeit overreaching shots. Klitschko doesn't have enough fuel in the tank to beat a committed Fury over 12 any more, so if he rematches, he has to look for the KO. And if he were a few years younger, I could see Vitali coming back!

As for the result, I had the first two 115-112s down as home-cooking, and then sat there mouth agape for bare seconds when I heard 'UK'. Like a bad extra from an Only Fools... ep. There's more money to be made with Fury as the champion, for sure, and I find that 116-111 with a point deduction a wee bit dubious. But no robbery, no crime.

[GPTM1403]

Oddly considering his confidence is nutter level anyway I think this win makes a massive difference to Fury and next time round he does similar job, but takes the chances to land some heavier stuff late on and make sure of it.

[Finn]

Unless Wladimir intends to fight in the rematch. It's pointless. He might as well have not even showed up today. He gave Fury the fight on a silver platter. Fury is about as weak a Heavyweight Champion as there is, and half of the Top 10 could dethrone him in his 1st title defense.

I'm not sure Wlad is one of them though. Wlad was just a complete bitch in there today. Didn't even try to fight, even when Fury was giving him free shots with his hands behind his back.

Cant see any of the top 10 beating him.

[Finn]

Klitschko missed several opportunities to land on Fury. Was it because his timing was off or was he just afraid to commit? He should probably retire but likely won't. Unless Fury hits the self-destruct button, I don't fancy Wlad's chances in a rematch. I scored this one a draw and don't expect Wlad to improve.

Scored it a draw? How? wlad only landed 57 punches in the whole fight and it was pretty easy to score this fight.

[Boxerbeetle]

Unless Wladimir intends to fight in the rematch. It's pointless. He might as well have not even showed up today. He gave Fury the fight on a silver platter. Fury is about as weak a Heavyweight Champion as there is, and half of the Top 10 could dethrone him in his 1st title defense.

I'm not sure Wlad is one of them though. Wlad was just a complete bitch in there today. Didn't even try to fight, even when Fury was giving him free shots with his hands behind his back.

Cant see any of the top 10 beating him.

Dunno, Povetkin has the style & power to give Fury nightmares, I'd fancy him to win. And obviously Wilder would have a puncher's chance.

[littlepug]

I hope this doesn't happen again , fair play to Fury on the win but it was a shocking fight tbh

Wasn't the best fight but to be fair I was scared to look away! Captivating!

Same for me, whilst lacking in quality it still had me absolutely engrossed and not many have me like that these days

[crusader]

Unless Wladimir intends to fight in the rematch. It's pointless. He might as well have not even showed up today. He gave Fury the fight on a silver platter. Fury is about as weak a Heavyweight Champion as there is, and half of the Top 10 could dethrone him in his 1st title defense.

I'm not sure Wlad is one of them though. Wlad was just a complete bitch in there today. Didn't even try to fight, even when Fury was giving him free shots with his hands behind his back.

Cant see any of the top 10 beating him.

Dunno, Povetkin has the style & power to give Fury nightmares, I'd fancy him to win. And obviously Wilder would have a puncher's chance.

Ya, I can see Povetkin and Wilder beating him, though I'd still make him the favorite.

[CharlesListon]

Klitschko missed several opportunities to land on Fury. Was it because his timing was off or was he just afraid to commit? He should probably retire but likely won't. Unless Fury hits the self-destruct button, I don't fancy Wlad's chances in a rematch. I scored this one a draw and don't expect Wlad to improve.

Scored it a draw? How? wlad only landed 57 punches in the whole fight and it was pretty easy to score this fight.

It's wasn't that easy to score. Both were dreadful.

[Finn]

It's wasn't that easy to score. Both were dreadful.

Disagree boxing is about nullifying your opponents strengths in order hit and not be hit back. That's exactly what fury did, he boxed very well. If wlad didn't land anything in a round and fury lands one punch (as an example) fury wins the round, it's a simple as. If the round is close in terms of quality punches landed then you look at the other scoring factors but wlad rarely showed any effective aggression, defensive skills, or general ring craft, and he rarely landed the better quality punches.

It's almost like Haye v Valuev where people say Haye lost or drew - how? Haye landed a couple of shots each round and Valuev landed nothing.

The fight was not close enough for it to go down to people's personal preference.

Some fights we all disagree on due to peoples style preferences in close rounds, or the weather the odd quality power punch is out weighing the several jabs landed etc but this not one of those fight - some of the rounds yes, but there weren't enough of those rounds for it to be scored any other way than a Fury victory imo.

[Twinkle Toes]

Don't think Wlad will fancy it, he looked lost in there last night - Fury has his number, and is one slippery eel.